[weez]

Anyone having these issues in a '19 model?

[Mocon]

Wheel and tire size do not matter-dealerships have flipped all the different wheel sizes and have found no joy.

[BMWZ4]

Originally Posted by weez

Anyone having these issues in a '19 model?

I think he was asking about model year vs. tire size. Yes, pretty sure some of the posts are '19 model years.

[Mocon]

Sorry

[freitz]

Originally Posted by Mocon

For the past few years many people have complained that BMW electronic steering was very numb compared to the older versions-ie.the ability to FEEL the road.- when BMW was working on this new version they made changes to give the steering more feeling-my old 2014 x3 35i m-sport was very dead in the feel dept.-But the vibrations I feel when applying the gas in my 2018 m40i has nothing to do with the steering -it is all drivetrain related-the steering is where the problem is allowing us to feel the issue-A kind of harmonic feedback I call it-the comparison to a vibrator is a good one-for me, the more you ask the car to do speed up,climb a hill or turn the greater the vibration or the feedback

I would agree with you the feedback is more then I am use to. Mercedes and Audi provide little to none.

However I honestly didn't notice anything until someone pointed me to this forum until it was commented under another thread I have.

My 2014 x1 has similar feedback.

The cost of the car is irrelevant a 150k porsche will provide feedback to the drive through the steering wheel.

[freitz]

Originally Posted by M40iG01

I can tell everyone that it seems to me in my x3m40i there is far more feeling or feedback from the road than I was ever used to. I came from an audi and I didnt feel any vibrations through the steering wheel. The bad vibration I had is definitely fixed but there are still vibrations when the engine is cold and at certain times when driving. I would have to say that some have to do with the suspension (being a sport suspension )and other are clearly characteristics of a BMW that I will have to get used too.

I notice it when idle, turning sometimes, chip road surfaces definitely bring vibrations into the wheel.

I had an SQ5 2016 before this and I would say the Sq5 provided vibration feedback through the steering wheel. I will also say the Sq5 also had terrible road noise from the suspension, this noise is much better managed by bmw.

My buddy has a Macan GTS I might go give that a spin see if it has similar feedback.

[Mocon]

Please do not be confused-there is a big difference between the feel of the road feedback(old school steering set-ups which the manufacturers are trying to re-create within electronic steering) and the vibrations that are the issue-The bmw techs and service brass have all agreed there is a problem-at this time there are affected cars and non-affected cars coming out of S.C.

[freitz]

Originally Posted by Mocon

Please do not be confused-there is a big difference between the feel of the road feedback(old school steering set-ups which the manufacturers are trying to re-create within electronic steering) and the vibrations that are the issue-The bmw techs and service brass have all agreed there is a problem-at this time there are affected cars and non-affected cars coming out of S.C.

If I understand it correctly; Effected cars would have problems are certain speeds. Not constant steering feedback vibration that is felt at idle and during regular driving?

[Mocon]

That seems to be the majority of the complaints.30-65 mph

[Mocon]

Believe me,if your car was affected you would know and feel the difference between idle and 55 mph with your foot on the gas-if you are this confused I would guess your car is not a problem one, keep in mind this is based on my experiences and readings!You can always take it in and have the techs look at it.

[BMWZ4]

Possibly your lane assist functions or changing lanes w/o signaling or perhaps the side view mirror detection setting off the vibration?

Try turning off all your driving assist features and see if you still get the minor vibrations.

[Terry5]

Ok, just took my 2018 M40i to the dealership to get the steering wheel vibration fixed. Same issue as others, vibration between 50 and 60 miles per hour under light load. Test drove with service manager and he agrees there is a problem. Hopefully, they can get this resolved quickly. I told them about the rear output drive shafts and being the potential cause. I’ll keep you updated.

[Mocon]

My drive shafts have come into the dealership,have an appt. for next week-trying to move it up if they have a opening-hope there is light at the end of this tunnel.

[kdm235]

My M40i was delivered in late april of 18. 20 inch AS Bridgestone tires. Vibration came on suddenly around 6000-7000 just when my oil service light came on. (Suppose to be 10,000 right?) anyway my car has been tied up do to my moving and all. Today the car is at the dealership with 13, 400 miles on it. This vibration is exactly as all the others state. Comes in around 52 MPH when car is in regular drive, even does it in sport and echo too. If you put the cruise on at 52 and lightly tip in the throttle you will feel it then, same type vibration as lane departure warning. I even shut that off, no difference? BMW cooperate first stated "Gee, not one call from anyone on that, Take the car to the Bridgestone tire dealer. I did that last month, they state that its a drive train related thing, that they were advised by bridgestone to not swap or replace tires because it is a "BMW" problem not a tire issue, as you can see seems they are correct. Dealer just called stating they need another few days and get some manger involved. Seems they never heard of this either. Someone not telling "Me" what the truth is. They have me in a loaner, told to expect a few weeks at longest? If they are not aware of this why do they know its gonna be a while? I am in Fl, I think it going to have to be a buy back or swap for a 2019. The 19's have a different rear Diff. in them for sure. Instead of the rear brakes doing the work on handling the rear Diff now has electronic clutches inside. I wanted that option when I ordered my 2018, was told it would be out sometime in first few months of the 2019 run? Anyway I will send my dealer here in Jacksonville Fl this forum thread and hope she gets to the bottom of this problem....

[cthomp88]

9 more days and I’m sending in my lemon law form to have it bought back. Maybe more people need to start claiming lemon law to really kick BMW into figuring this out and getting a quicker fix to everyone affected. I personally do not want a swap, if it’s doing it in multiple cars, including some 2019s, then why would I want another potentially affected vehicle?

[Mocon]

How many days in Georgia to qualify for lemon law-I think 15 days here in Florida.

[BMWZ4]

Why not wait to see if the rear shafts are indeed the issue or fix?

So far one member has had the new shafts for at least a week and he's been quiet, so assumes so far so good?

[M40iG01]

Yes, one member has been quiet All good with me. I don't get why they don't fix others when clearly they have a solution.....
It was painful while I waited two months but my dealer really stepped it up in the end. I got more than I could have ever asked for in terms of customer satisfaction from.what I went through. If you others that are affected arent getting anywhere with service in your dealership, escalate it to the dealership general manager. I found out it was useless to call BMW corporate. If you are persistent yet "kind" like another guy advised me, you will be surprised how far you get. Tell your dealers the Canadians know how to fix the problem

[edwood]

Hi all...wanted to update everyone on my situation. Car is still at the dealer (over 45 days now) but the good news is that I was approved for a Trade Assist. My 2019 is on order and I have to say my experience with BMW North America and my dealership in New York has been amazing. Of course things took longer than I would have hoped but I got weekly updates from BMW NA and once I was approved, they contacted my dealership and authorized the Trade Assist. I felt it worth mentioning because it's really true, being kind and respectful goes a long way. I also told the lead mechanic to call BMW of Toronto since apparently they are the first to crack the case of the "Nervous X3M40i" - doesn't like driving near the speed limit lol.

I will post how things go with the 2019 but even if the problem comes back, I'm pretty confident BMW will have a service bulletin issued regarding replacing the rear output drive shafts which I also believe is the fix.

One other curious point to mention, I noticed when I had people in the back seat, the vibration would not happen. The car sat a bit lower with the added weight which dampened the vibration I'm guessing or changed the driving dynamics. Lends some more credence to the issue being the rear output drive shafts. By the way, I always called them the rear axles but that's just me I guess.

Good luck to all with this issue and keep the faith.

[freitz]

Okay can someone clarify this vibration?

It feels as if the lane assist is going off? Because there is definitely vibrations at varying speeds.

[M40iG01]

like an aggressive vibrator yes. once the rear shafts are replaced; vibration is gone

[Mocon]

From what I understand there is a difference between trade assist and a re-purchase.Doesn't a trade assist have the chance of additional funds being brought to the table depending on the amount of money offered by BMW NA and of course the trade in value offered by the dealer-a trade in with BMW dollars like rebate cash-a re-purchase is a car for car swap keeping the dollar amount the same, roughly- this is my understanding from research and past posters experiences.Has any one have any thoughts or anything to add?