M5 to X3M brake conversion - track setup

RoWoX3M · 01-20-2022, 05:47 AM

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Thanks man! I see a bunch of vendors listing the brake pads as discontinued. Any idea why?

These OEM units are used by the M5, M8 & X5 M. So they shouldn't have that status. Which vendors are you referring to... ?

Getbmwparts as an example as well as many others like it. ECS show it is back ordered. Just odd. Where did you source your parts?

jzmundy · 01-20-2022, 08:04 AM

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Looking forward to seeing your results

Hopefully soon. There have been too many other fires to put out first. Certainly haven't forgotten about this cool upgrade. With the current supply chain issues parts are taking forever to ship out right now. The right caliper was chipped (took 3-4 weeks to arrive), then ordered a new one & they sent my returned one back. Now I'm sitting on that unit before they send it's replacement out. Should "FINALLY" have it to go with the left caliper in just a few days.

Damn, what a pain in the neck

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tarmactrr · 01-21-2022, 11:02 AM

I'm curious if anybody knows if there is a difference between the 2020 X5M caliper and the older 2014-2018 X5M caliper. Both are 6 piston and both the 2014 and 2020 use the 395x36 front rotor.

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 01-22-2022, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RoWoX3M

Getbmwparts as an example as well as many others like it. ECS show it is back ordered. Just odd. Where did you source your parts?

I got mine from ECS Tuning.

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Damn, what a pain in the neck

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I sure was & still is. This Monday I should have the new right hand side caliper delivered to inspect.

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I'm curious if anybody knows if there is a difference between the 2020 X5M caliper and the older 2014-2018 X5M caliper. Both are 6 piston and both the 2014 and 2020 use the 395x36 front rotor.

I'm not sure & would have to look at RealOEM to verify. I believe the 2019+ is the correct caliper for this.

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 01-27-2022, 02:37 AM

Glad to see this project is getting closer to coming into fruition. Sure took a long time to get a matching set (left & right) of current gen X5 M calipers that had no substantial paint chips on the outward facing areas. Almost gave up on this at one point. But then I remembered how much I love driving the X3 MC fast. And how well the 4-piston factory brakes slow down this 4,600 lb beast when driving aggressively. Can't wait to "finally" install these & see how well she stops. With the same braking system as the M5 & M8 now, I think she'll stop on a dime pretty well...

jzmundy · 01-27-2022, 07:57 AM

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Glad to see this project is getting closer to coming into fruition. Sure took a long time to get a matching set (left & right) of current gen X5 M calipers that had no substantial paint chips on the outward facing areas. Almost gave up on this at one point. But then I remembered how much I love driving the X3 MC fast. And how well the 4-piston factory brakes slow down this 4,600 lb beast when driving aggressively. Can't wait to "finally" install these & see how well she stops. With the same braking system as the M5 & M8 now, I think she'll stop on a dime pretty well...

allinon72 · 01-28-2022, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Glad to see this project is getting closer to coming into fruition. Sure took a long time to get a matching set (left & right) of current gen X5 M calipers that had no substantial paint chips on the outward facing areas. Almost gave up on this at one point. But then I remembered how much I love driving the X3 MC fast. And how well the 4-piston factory brakes slow down this 4,600 lb beast when driving aggressively. Can't wait to "finally" install these & see how well she stops. With the same braking system as the M5 & M8 now, I think she'll stop on a dime pretty well...

Hurry up Kevin, I want to see how these look!

BrockDM · 03-21-2022, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Glad to see this project is getting closer to coming into fruition. Sure took a long time to get a matching set (left & right) of current gen X5 M calipers that had no substantial paint chips on the outward facing areas. Almost gave up on this at one point. But then I remembered how much I love driving the X3 MC fast. And how well the 4-piston factory brakes slow down this 4,600 lb beast when driving aggressively. Can't wait to "finally" install these & see how well she stops. With the same braking system as the M5 & M8 now, I think she'll stop on a dime pretty well...

Hey Kevin any updates on this? Did you get the calipers installed?

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 03-22-2022, 02:31 AM

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Hey Kevin any updates on this? Did you get the calipers installed?

Hi fellas. My sincere apologies about the delay. Although this project has been put on the back burner for the moment, I certainly haven't forgotten about this. Not trying to be a tease with these beautiful M3, M5, M8 & X5 M calipers.

The 2020 X3 MC I'm currently restoring is taking longer then originally expected. But now that spring has arrived this will be moved up the list a touch. The moment they're installed I'll make sure to update you all & give direct feedback.

bimmerstar · 09-07-2022, 11:16 PM

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Hi fellas. My sincere apologies about the delay. Although this project has been put on the back burner for the moment, I certainly haven't forgotten about this. Not trying to be a tease with these beautiful M3, M5, M8 & X5 M calipers.

The 2020 X3 MC I'm currently restoring is taking longer then originally expected. But now that spring has arrived this will be moved up the list a touch. The moment they're installed I'll make sure to update you all & give direct feedback.

any update to this? The X3m Brakes fit the G20 M340 thus this should also be a bolt on for our cars.

Do the X5M have carbon ceramic as option so we can get gold calipers? I will need to check.

Chubbiejones · 09-08-2022, 05:42 AM

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Hi fellas. My sincere apologies about the delay. Although this project has been put on the back burner for the moment, I certainly haven't forgotten about this. Not trying to be a tease with these beautiful M3, M5, M8 & X5 M calipers.

The 2020 X3 MC I'm currently restoring is taking longer then originally expected. But now that spring has arrived this will be moved up the list a touch. The moment they're installed I'll make sure to update you all & give direct feedback.

any update to this? The X3m Brakes fit the G20 M340 thus this should also be a bolt on for our cars.

Do the X5M have carbon ceramic as option so we can get gold calipers? I will need to check.

Might have to look into this upgrade for my M340i as well

bimmerstar · 09-08-2022, 08:51 PM

no carbon ceramics from what i can see so blue, black and red options. not bad but really wanted the gold for my tanzanite m340

its never easy.

Chubbiejones · 09-09-2022, 10:05 AM

You can always get your calipers powdered coated prior to installing - that is my plan when I perform the upgrade

bimmerstar · 09-12-2022, 10:11 AM

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You can always get your calipers powdered coated prior to installing - that is my plan when I perform the upgrade

i plan to track my car and powder coat retains heat more than paint. I also prefer the oem brembo finish so it is exactly the right shade of gold/yellow.

My plan is to get m3/m4/m5 f90 carbon ceramic calipers and make brackets.

The wheel company I am working with says we can make them fit.

Chubbiejones · 09-12-2022, 02:53 PM

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You can always get your calipers powdered coated prior to installing - that is my plan when I perform the upgrade

i plan to track my car and powder coat retains heat more than paint. I also prefer the oem brembo finish so it is exactly the right shade of gold/yellow.

My plan is to get m3/m4/m5 f90 carbon ceramic calipers and make brackets.

The wheel company I am working with says we can make them fit.

This is very true; a carbon setup will be fantastic!

bimmerstar · 09-12-2022, 08:16 PM

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This is very true; a carbon setup will be fantastic!

i still plan to run steelies just with the carbon calipers for the gold/yellow look

Chubbiejones · 09-13-2022, 05:30 AM

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This is very true; a carbon setup will be fantastic!

i still plan to run steelies just with the carbon calipers for the gold/yellow look

I like the way you think!

Dawgz · 10-17-2022, 08:16 PM

So has anyone else done this? Any pics to compare the stock caliper vs f95?

TacosRule! · 10-31-2022, 09:04 AM

Are these the ones I want?

"2019 BMW X5 M 4.4L F85 V8 OEM BREMBO LH RH FRONT BRAKE CALIPER"

will 2019s work?

TacosRule! · 10-31-2022, 09:34 AM

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@2BulkBen
The other thing I'm a touch concerned about it the OEM brake pad compound difference. Because now the rear brake pads of the X3 M will be at OEM factory specs (in terms of their compound) but the front brake pad compound will be composed of M5 specs.

I have the same question. Did you look at converting the rears as well? I found these and would love to know if the rear 4 piston units from the X5M will fit our X3Ms as easily as the fronts do:

"Rear big brake with pads upgrade BMW X5 X6 E70 E71 to Brembo 4 pot unpainted"

they're all being offered by tro-nik. Kinda sucks that they come all the way from eastern europe

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 11-02-2022, 12:19 AM

@saabster2010 I'm not sure anyone has upgraded the rears calipers yet. But I wouldn't bother. And the front OEM units (pictured above) are from the previous generation X5 M SAV's. You'll want the version of calipers from the current generation X5 M. Those will have everything you need to be plug & play. All you need is the brake pads & 4 main bolts.

PopDV · 11-06-2022, 05:37 AM

What do you think about M5 vs Brembo front break? Bremo has bigger disk and caliper. So the M5 is just cheaper?

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Kevin_The_Clean1 Major General 4966 Rep 5,306 Posts Drives: 2020 X3 MC Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Campbell, CA iTrader: (12)	Glad to see this project is getting closer to coming into fruition. Sure took a long time to get a matching set (left & right) of current gen X5 M calipers that had no substantial paint chips on the outward facing areas. Almost gave up on this at one point. But then I remembered how much I love driving the X3 MC fast. And how well the 4-piston factory brakes slow down this 4,600 lb beast when driving aggressively. Can't wait to "finally" install these & see how well she stops. With the same braking system as the M5 & M8 now, I think she'll stop on a dime pretty well... __________________ 1998 E36 M3 - Totaled 2003 E39 M5 - Gone but not forgotten 2011 E90 335i M-Sport - Daily Driver 2017 F87 M2 - Sold & missed 2020 F97 X3 M Competition - Finally arrived /// Last edited by Kevin_The_Clean1; 01-27-2022 at 02:44 AM..
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TacosRule! Lieutenant Colonel 1286 Rep 1,743 Posts Drives: 2022 X3M Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Houston Area iTrader: (12)	Calipers? Are these the ones I want? "2019 BMW X5 M 4.4L F85 V8 OEM BREMBO LH RH FRONT BRAKE CALIPER" will 2019s work? Attached Images
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Kevin_The_Clean1 Major General 4966 Rep 5,306 Posts Drives: 2020 X3 MC Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Campbell, CA iTrader: (12)	@saabster2010 I'm not sure anyone has upgraded the rears calipers yet. But I wouldn't bother. And the front OEM units (pictured above) are from the previous generation X5 M SAV's. You'll want the version of calipers from the current generation X5 M. Those will have everything you need to be plug & play. All you need is the brake pads & 4 main bolts. __________________ 1998 E36 M3 - Totaled 2003 E39 M5 - Gone but not forgotten 2011 E90 335i M-Sport - Daily Driver 2017 F87 M2 - Sold & missed 2020 F97 X3 M Competition - Finally arrived ///
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PopDV New Member 5 Rep 16 Posts Drives: Mercedes AMG C43 Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Fort Lauderdale iTrader: (0)	What do you think about M5 vs Brembo front break? Bremo has bigger disk and caliper. So the M5 is just cheaper?
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