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      10-07-2020, 09:37 AM   #1
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Any issues with wheel spacers?

I’m about to install Vossen wheels that will require 10mm wheel spacers. I’ve been told that as long as they are hub centric, made of 6061 aluminum and installed properly there are minimal risks. I plan on switching back and forth between my stock 21” and the Vossens and I’m hoping that it should be a fairly seamless experience. Has anyone had any issues with wheel spacers? All the research I’ve done online has resulted in mixed results. With 50% saying properly installed spacers are no big deal and others that say spacers are never a good idea.
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I’m about to install Vossen wheels that will require 10mm wheel spacers. I’ve been told that as long as they are hub centric, made of 6061 aluminum and installed properly there are minimal risks. I plan on switching back and forth between my stock 21” and the Vossens and I’m hoping that it should be a fairly seamless experience. Has anyone had any issues with wheel spacers? All the research I’ve done online has resulted in mixed results. With 50% saying properly installed spacers are no big deal and others that say spacers are never a good idea.
No issues with properly installed, quality spacer. I have been using them for years.
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same here, as long as they're made to the correct hubcentric tolerances and the wheel and tire assembly is balanced properly you're GTG
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I’m about to install Vossen wheels that will require 10mm wheel spacers. I’ve been told that as long as they are hub centric, made of 6061 aluminum and installed properly there are minimal risks. I plan on switching back and forth between my stock 21” and the Vossens and I’m hoping that it should be a fairly seamless experience. Has anyone had any issues with wheel spacers? All the research I’ve done online has resulted in mixed results. With 50% saying properly installed spacers are no big deal and others that say spacers are never a good idea.
Take the the Future Classic wheel spacers. They are amazing, top quality.
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I’m about to install Vossen wheels that will require 10mm wheel spacers. I’ve been told that as long as they are hub centric, made of 6061 aluminum and installed properly there are minimal risks. I plan on switching back and forth between my stock 21” and the Vossens and I’m hoping that it should be a fairly seamless experience. Has anyone had any issues with wheel spacers? All the research I’ve done online has resulted in mixed results. With 50% saying properly installed spacers are no big deal and others that say spacers are never a good idea.
Take the the Future Classic wheel spacers. They are amazing, top quality.
Precisely. FC spacers are actually lightweight and mad for our cars.
The issue you may have seen around the interwebs. Is in the older days where people put literally 1" wide spacers on their cars. Whaaat!? As well as there were just universal 4 5 lug sets and thats all you had available.
Now you literally have a pretty much custom made set for your specific vehicle model. 0 concerns at all.
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As everyone above me stated, no issues with quality ones that are properly installed. Make sure they are hub centric and that you get the appropriate increased length of the bolts based on the thickness of the spacer you are using.

The below link goes to a couple quick pics of my H&R spacers install to give you a general idea.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=32

As those were used when on my stock 21"s and my current Volk Racing wheels dont need them, they will be going on my wife's X2 shortly.
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I've been using and selling wheel spacer for the longest time.
Both on my street car and track car.
I only trust and use H&R brand since it is 100% made in Germany.

But question for you, why you are still using spacer if you are getting Vossen?
If it HybridForged or the Forged series, it would be cut to the spec that you want it so it will clear the brake caliper without the need of spacers.

I have sold many Vossen and no spacers ever needed.
Unless if it is the VFS series where in some cases do need spacer.
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I've been using and selling wheel spacer for the longest time.
Both on my street car and track car.
I only trust and use H&R brand since it is 100% made in Germany.

But question for you, why you are still using spacer if you are getting Vossen?
If it HybridForged or the Forged series, it would be cut to the spec that you want it so it will clear the brake caliper without the need of spacers.

I have sold many Vossen and no spacers ever needed.
Unless if it is the VFS series where in some cases do need spacer.
Great question I tried to go as close to standard spec as possible on hybrid forged HF-1s. So original plan was to go with 21” by 9.5” in the front and 21” by 10.5” on the rears. What I was told is that the 21” by 9.5” would need to be a custom wheel and therefore much more expensive. Recommendation was go with 21” by 9” on the fronts, but use I believe 10mm spacers which are from Turner Motorsports. Their not charging for the spacers or the increased length lug bolts. I’m getting the wheels on Friday this week unless that story just doesn’t add up?
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I've been using and selling wheel spacer for the longest time.
Both on my street car and track car.
I only trust and use H&R brand since it is 100% made in Germany.

But question for you, why you are still using spacer if you are getting Vossen?
If it HybridForged or the Forged series, it would be cut to the spec that you want it so it will clear the brake caliper without the need of spacers.

I have sold many Vossen and no spacers ever needed.
Unless if it is the VFS series where in some cases do need spacer.
Great question I tried to go as close to standard spec as possible on hybrid forged HF-1s. So original plan was to go with 21" by 9.5" in the front and 21" by 10.5" on the rears. What I was told is that the 21" by 9.5" would need to be a custom wheel and therefore much more expensive. Recommendation was go with 21" by 9" on the fronts, but use I believe 10mm spacers which are from Turner Motorsports. Their not charging for the spacers or the increased length lug bolts. I'm getting the wheels on Friday this week unless that story just doesn't add up?
What are the offset?
20x9 comes in +25 and +32.
And if they order you the +25, then you don't need spacer.
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What are the offset?
20x9 comes in +25 and +32.
And if they order you the +25, then you don't need spacer.
Are you sure on that? I was just was chatting with the folks at Vossen online and I asked if there was anyway to clear my front brakes and they said on stock fitments it would require spacers. I’m going to guess that is the same info they told my installer and why they are echoing the same info.
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What are the offset?
20x9 comes in +25 and +32.
And if they order you the +25, then you don't need spacer.
Are you sure on that? I was just was chatting with the folks at Vossen online and I asked if there was anyway to clear my front brakes and they said on stock fitments it would require spacers. I'm going to guess that is the same info they told my installer and why they are echoing the same info.
Yes, I am sure.
I have sold 20" at stock setup for local guy.

Besides stock 20" size is 20x9 +28.
So if you go with 20x9 +25, it will add 3mm more gap against the caliper.

You need to talk to me next time. Haha.
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Yes, I am sure.
I have sold 20" at stock setup for local guy.

Besides stock 20" size is 20x9 +28.
So if you go with 20x9 +25, it will add 3mm more gap against the caliper.

You need to talk to me next time. Haha.
Thanks for all the info from you and everyone else on this forum it’s been really helpful. I’m trying to get confirmation on offsets on the fronts from my installer. I’m going with the 21”by9” I’m assuming the same stock offsets are available?
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Yes, I am sure.
I have sold 20" at stock setup for local guy.

Besides stock 20" size is 20x9 +28.
So if you go with 20x9 +25, it will add 3mm more gap against the caliper.

You need to talk to me next time. Haha.
Thanks for all the info from you and everyone else on this forum it's been really helpful. I'm trying to get confirmation on offsets on the fronts from my installer. I'm going with the 21"by9" I'm assuming the same stock offsets are available?
Ahh, 21x9, only in 32 offset.
That do need spacer if I remember correctly.
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Ahh, 21x9, only in 32 offset.
That do need spacer if I remember correctly.
That would explain it. I wish my installer would have gone through all these details, but at the end of the day it appears they’re doing right by me.
Thanks again for the information it was really helpful and now I know next time.
I’ll make sure to post photos once I get them installed.
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i would say avoid H&R, they have had issues from supplier im told over here, i was told after i had 10mm rear ones fitted and then felt vibration, i had wheels removed and both lips have snapped off on each side, so wheel had no ledge to sit on to make perfect centre, was shocked, as i said the supplier then said ....oh we have had 3 other cases of H&R ones snapping like that, so im not the only one. I thought great, thank god i had only driven twice and not hard since fitting. I have binned them and wont use again, bimecc spacers much better quality or ones i have fitted now by Evolve tuning here in uk are by TPI, streets ahead in quality i have had zero issues with them.
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i would say avoid H&R, they have had issues from supplier im told over here, i was told after i had 10mm rear ones fitted and then felt vibration, i had wheels removed and both lips have snapped off on each side, so wheel had no ledge to sit on to make perfect centre, was shocked, as i said the supplier then said ....oh we have had 3 other cases of H&R ones snapping like that, so im not the only one. I thought great, thank god i had only driven twice and not hard since fitting. I have binned them and wont use again, bimecc spacers much better quality or ones i have fitted now by Evolve tuning here in uk are by TPI, streets ahead in quality i have had zero issues with them.
Question, you fitted 10mm on your X3M?
What is the part number? Because I know that H&R doesn't have 10mm for F97/F98 X3M/X4M platform.
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What is the part number? Because I know that H&R doesn't have 10mm for F97/F98 X3M/X4M platform.
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Was able to install without spacers here are the Vossen wheels and Michelin Sport All Season 4s.
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Was able to install without spacers here are the Vossen wheels and Michelin Sport All Season 4s.
Looks good.
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i would say avoid H&R, they have had issues from supplier im told over here, i was told after i had 10mm rear ones fitted and then felt vibration, i had wheels removed and both lips have snapped off on each side, so wheel had no ledge to sit on to make perfect centre, was shocked, as i said the supplier then said ....oh we have had 3 other cases of H&R ones snapping like that, so im not the only one. I thought great, thank god i had only driven twice and not hard since fitting. I have binned them and wont use again, bimecc spacers much better quality or ones i have fitted now by Evolve tuning here in uk are by TPI, streets ahead in quality i have had zero issues with them.
What happened to you? Post and run?
I need an answer so others won't make the same mistake like you or Evolve.
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What happened to you? Post and run?
I need an answer so others won't make the same mistake like you or Evolve.
you see the lip that should be there, well both sheared off after 20 miles on car, really dangerous, when i called supplier he said he had had few H&R sets do this, i was annoyed he even sold them still if a known issue, i wont be using H&R ones again, been fine with other make ones.
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What happened to you? Post and run?
I need an answer so others won't make the same mistake like you or Evolve.
you see the lip that should be there, well both sheared off after 20 miles on car, really dangerous, when i called supplier he said he had had few H&R sets do this, i was annoyed he even sold them still if a known issue, i wont be using H&R ones again, been fine with other make ones.
What's the part number of the spacer?
Once you tell me, I can tell you exactly what is happening.
Seen that happening because of customer or installer didn't read the detail instruction.
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