[airbagit13]

Was going to order K&N Springs cause my local guy recommended them. Any better springs out there that won't empty my wallet? Do I have to buy anything else besides the springs?

Thanks!

[pokerface]

K&N makes springs?

I went with Eibach.

[TwinSnailz]

He probably meant “H&R”

[gomichigan]

I just purchased a set of H&R Sport springs. 1.3-1.4" drop I think. Pretty reasonable.

[HighDeaf]

H&R! Loving them. Eibach was not available for 2012 x3 in Canada
By the way the drop ended up being 1.4 back and 1.5 front, so perfect. Also i have Electronic Damper Control (EDC) and the springs work great with the setup. I have 112,000km and the shocks seem to be good, didn't need to replace them, i would recommend you have the shocks inspected while you are having springs replaced just in case.

[scostu]

I went Eibach + Koni Special Actives.

I have stock 19” square wheels.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1641417

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by scostu

I went Eibach + Koni Special Actives.

I have stock 19” square wheels.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1641417

Nice Did you catch the lowering amount? Not just published but actual results for you?

Also - maybe you already know or someone else. I will do some research. How do our dampers work w/ the sport, comfort, etc. settings? I am guessing it's a proprietary system we can't just throw aftermarket struts at if we want to keep it working correctly. Your thread seemed to indicate otherwise.

[pungo]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Also - maybe you already know or someone else. I will do some research. How do our dampers work w/ the sport, comfort, etc. settings? I am guessing it's a proprietary system we can't just throw aftermarket struts at if we want to keep it working correctly. Your thread seemed to indicate otherwise.

Do you have option [223] Dynamic Damping Control?

[scostu]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Nice Did you catch the lowering amount? Not just published but actual results for you?

Also - maybe you already know or someone else. I will do some research. How do our dampers work w/ the sport, comfort, etc. settings? I am guessing it's a proprietary system we can't just throw aftermarket struts at if we want to keep it working correctly. Your thread seemed to indicate otherwise.

I have the OEM static suspension.

My suspension choice is NOT recommended for the OEM adaptive suspension.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by scostu

I have the OEM static suspension. My suspension choice is NOT recommended for the OEM adaptive suspension.

I'd read you talking Sport and Comfort modes... which I have as well.

Originally Posted by pungo

Do you have option [223] Dynamic Damping Control?

No, I do not. I'm familiar with that and it's a rare package, one not on my car.

When I get into Sport mode the on-screen image implies it is changing the shock settings. I haven't done any back to back comparisons to determine if it's true. Reading up on it, supposedly there's a valving change internal to the shock that's adjusting the actual dampening. Perhaps I'm reading only specifically about the rare actual dynamic control?

It's looking likely that I've misunderstood what's actually happening between comfort and sport modes, other than the obvious throttle / transmission shifting adjustments. I thought that the shocks were being tweaked as well - between 2 manually set modes. And thought that the Dynamic package was a much fancier multi point / automatic adjustment (perhaps a magnetorheological type system) on the fly sort of a thing. Not the case?

[pungo]

Originally Posted by pungo

Do you have option [223] Dynamic Damping Control?

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

I'd read you talking Sport and Comfort modes... which I have as well.

No, I do not. I'm familiar with that and it's a rare package, one not on my car.

When I get into Sport mode the on-screen image implies it is changing the shock settings. I haven't done any back to back comparisons to determine if it's true. Reading up on it, supposedly there's a valving change internal to the shock that's adjusting the actual dampening. Perhaps I'm reading only specifically about the rare actual dynamic control?

It's looking likely that I've misunderstood what's actually happening between comfort and sport modes, other than the obvious throttle / transmission shifting adjustments. I thought that the shocks were being tweaked as well - between 2 manually set modes. And thought that the Dynamic package was a much fancier multi point / automatic adjustment (perhaps a magnetorheological type system) on the fly sort of a thing. Not the case?

That's why I asked if you have 223. Since you don't, there's no need to worry about the lowering springs effect in different sport modes the since the dampers are the traditional type and do not change with the button.

If I were changing to lowering springs (sport springs), I'd also upgrade the struts/shocks as well.

[tracer bullet]

Interesting. So the screen lies! It colors in the shocks when it claims it's changing over to "Sport" settings. I suppose that's a generic image and only specifically applicable to the 223 equipped cars?

Funny, I was duped. I knew I didn't have 223, and hadn't really looked into it beyond that but thought it might yet have had something adjustable.

Thanks -

******

Edit - just took a look under the car, and clearly a normal shock, nothing attached to them i.e. electronic controls or wiring.

Hopefully this helps someone else. Sorry for the thread hijack.

[pungo]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Interesting. So the screen lies! It colors in the shocks when it claims it's changing over to "Sport" settings. I suppose that's a generic image and only specifically applicable to the 223 equipped cars?

Funny, I was duped. I knew I didn't have 223, and hadn't really looked into it beyond that but thought it might yet have had something adjustable.

Thanks -

******

Edit - just took a look under the car, and clearly a normal shock, nothing attached to them i.e. electronic controls or wiring.

Hopefully this helps someone else. Sorry for the thread hijack.

Well at least there's many options for aftermarket struts/shocks whereas the for EDC ones AFAIK there's only KW or stock and either are $$$.

So you don't have a setting like this for separate components ?

[3002 tii]

I'm really happy with my Koni FSD + Eibach combo. Nice drop but still practical amount of ground clearance. Rides really well with Konis, not harsh at all.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showp...&postcount=433

[AS4EX]

I'm on the bandwagon of wanting to add lowering springs as well but my concern was with the sway bar links. Does somewhere offer shorter links because I thought you want that sway bar at a certain "level" for it to perform properly. In other words, if you drop 1 inch, I'm guessing you want a link that is an inch shorter.

[tracer bullet]

It just pivots, much as it does if you hit a bump. And rests in its new position. Which is different than stock, but not an apparent issue.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by pungo

So you don't have a setting like this for separate components ?

Definitely do not! More like this (attached, grabbed from Google but same as I see in my X3)

[pungo]

Originally Posted by AS4EX

I'm on the bandwagon of wanting to add lowering springs as well but my concern was with the sway bar links. Does somewhere offer shorter links because I thought you want that sway bar at a certain "level" for it to perform properly. In other words, if you drop 1 inch, I'm guessing you want a link that is an inch shorter.

Unless you're drastically reducing the ride height (slammed), 1"-1.5" drop is not going to make much difference. If you're really concerned, just cut a section out and weld it back together.

[AS4EX]

Originally Posted by HighDeaf

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H&R! Loving them. Eibach was not available for 2012 x3 in Canada
By the way the drop ended up being 1.4 back and 1.5 front, so perfect. Also i have Electronic Damper Control (EDC) and the springs work great with the setup. I have 112,000km and the shocks seem to be good, didn't need to replace them, i would recommend you have the shocks inspected while you are having springs replaced just in case.

Really like your setup. What wheels are those and what size did you go with?

[airbagit13]

I ended up going with H&R. Installed yesterday and loving it so far, still needs to settle.

[tracer bullet]

Has anyone researched the spring rates of the various options vs stock?

[pungo]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Has anyone researched the spring rates of the various options vs stock?

The F25 offered several suspensions options with 223 and 226 getting larger F&R anti-sway bars, but I've never seen any specs for stock spring rates for each option. Yes, it would be interesting to see the comparison between stock and aftermarket spring rates, though that may be difficult info to obtain.

• 223 Electronic Damper Control (EDC)
• 225 Standard suspension (also "Sport Suspension Delete on M-sport)
• 226 Sport suspension