Track runs at Sachsenring by Auto Build - X3M Competition vs GLC63S vs F-Pace SVR

Unknown_Car · 04-09-2020, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mako

Completely disagree on the looks part
Which is why I bought the X3M, it looks much better to me.

Merc looks more like the soccer mom car compared to the bad dad X3M

That's your opinion, I agree with the other guy M-B looks miles better. And every single M-B looks better then all this new ugly 2020+ ToyoBimmers that are coming up.

AlexFL · 04-09-2020, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Roma_335i

That's your opinion, I agree with the other guy M-B looks miles better. And every single M-B looks better then all this new ugly 2020+ ToyoBimmers that are coming up.

That is your opinion. For me, every single Bimmer looks better than it’s Merc counterpart. I will drive Merc... when I turn 70, this is how boring they look.

stein_325i · 04-09-2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexFL

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Originally Posted by Roma_335i

That's your opinion, I agree with the other guy M-B looks miles better. And every single M-B looks better then all this new ugly 2020+ ToyoBimmers that are coming up.

I will drive Merc... when I turn 70, this is how boring they look.

Yeah, they are so boring looking

AlexFL · 04-09-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by joshuastein55

Yeah, they are so boring looking

Joshua, I have some breaking news. This is bimmerpost. We like BMWs. I highly recommend Merc forums for you MB lovers.

stein_325i · 04-09-2020, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexFL

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Originally Posted by joshuastein55

Yeah, they are so boring looking

Joshua, I have some breaking news. This is bimmerpost. We like BMWs. I highly recommend Merc forums for you MB lovers.

At Bimmerpost we are allowed to like all sorts of vehicles. Hence why my garage has both, makes it the best of both worlds. Its all fun and games, no need to get serious, I don't expect you to buy a Mercedes anytime soon.

Transfer · 04-09-2020, 01:46 PM

Ugh that CLA is gross.

AlexFL · 04-09-2020, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

Ugh that CLA is gross.

They all look pretty much the same. Very restraint, conservative design language. However, Joshua did a great job picking cars with nice paint color/finish to make them look more attractive.

TX3M · 04-09-2020, 02:05 PM

Nice vid, thanks for posting. I recently test drove an X3M Comp and an AMG GLC 63 (they were relatively short drives). The thing that struck me the most was how much more responsive the steering was in the AMG. I don't know if it's a lower steering ratio or what, but the AMG definitely felt like it responded quicker to my steering input. The "feel" through the steering wheel also seemed to be better...I could feel the road through the wheel more than I did in the M. I was really surprised.

Unknown_Car · 04-09-2020, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by joshuastein55

At Bimmerpost we are allowed to like all sorts of vehicles. Hence why my garage has both, makes it the best of both worlds. Its all fun and games, no need to get serious, I don't expect you to buy a Mercedes anytime soon.

Totally agree. Man that MB GTR looks so aggressive and beautiful.

Max Well · 04-10-2020, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexFL

Merc definitely looked more grippy in this video, but we don’t know the track/tire temperatures in both runs to really make any meaningful conclusions.

Pausing the video at the 56 sec mark appears to show he is in Sport+/Sport+/Sport and using 4WD Sport. Explanation of 4WD vs 4WD Sport from Page 78 of the Complete vehicle document ynguldyn shared back in Jun 2019 ( https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1623283 ) shows:

4WD - M DSC OFF with traction-optimized all-wheel drive and neutral handling characteristics

4WD Sport - M DSC OFF with sporty agile all-wheel drive; Oversteering possible

I fully understand the first three settings, but unsure of the 4WD one? Can anyone comment on the advantages/disadvantages of using 4WD vs 4WD Sport if running a time trial on this type of track?

I have no idea of the AMG’s settings for comparison (trying to understand if that has any influence on the apparent sliding/gripping difference noticed in the video)?

sayemthree · 04-12-2020, 01:31 AM

189. BMW X3 M Competition (F97) unknown 1:37.60 510 / 2034
190. BMW M2 (F87) unknown 1:37.65 375 / 1578

seems about right by my experience running with some M2's on the track.

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