[FastPanther]

Originally Posted by FSociety

I'm in NJ too and so is 2020X3M , you guys are related?

BM3 is the fastest Tune only 10.51 1/4 mile unprepped surface Dragy friend in Qatar and 10.61 in my car.

Not everyone has the opportunity to hit the track so Dragy 1/4 mile with a good slope does it. There are track who have -1% slope so of course some cars will go faster at those. But at the end of the day, 1/4 mile is a combination of things.

3/4 tank BM3 E30 STG1 w/ @MVPMotoring Race Pipes (Primary Only)

Stage 1 E70 on filters and tune only, still running the 21" PZ4

[sd306]

Originally Posted by FastPanther

Stage 1 E70 on filters and tune only, still running the 21" PZ4

Do you have a log associated with this? I'm curious to see how healthy the logs look for pushing more power and E.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by FastPanther

Stage 1 E70 on filters and tune only, still running the 21" PZ4

What’s your 60-130 time?

[X3MMM]

Originally Posted by FSociety

I'm in NJ too and so is 2020X3M , you guys are related?

BM3 is the fastest Tune only 10.51 1/4 mile unprepped surface Dragy friend in Qatar and 10.61 in my car.

Not everyone has the opportunity to hit the track so Dragy 1/4 mile with a good slope does it. There are track who have -1% slope so of course some cars will go faster at those. But at the end of the day, 1/4 mile is a combination of things.

3/4 tank BM3 E30 STG1 w/ @MVPMotoring Race Pipes (Primary Only)

I live on the shore (and also live in Maryland, depends on the time of year), not sure who 2020X3M is?

Has anyone done just a TUNE ONLY 1/4 mile run, everyone seems to have filters, intake, wheels, downpipes or cats? Agree people cannot hit the strip, but the guy in Qatar (Panther?) has air filters. I am looking for just a completely stock car with a tune added, that's it. I read some posts and believe you have other mods?

[X3MMM]

Originally Posted by sd306

No, MP is ready to go out of the box for E30, E50, or E85 (they have multiple OTS ethanol maps) and can take a small variation in ethanol. They may offer refinement - not sure. E50 is best performance to strain ratio for the HPFP for either tune.

For the BM3 license you get 1 tune of your choice from the OTS maps available - $600. Then can buy a map pack that includes 91,93, AND E30, etc OTS maps for $100 (highly recommended). Then you buy a separate E50 custom tune for $600. Then you buy another separate custom tune for 93 - which would be $600, but I would expect you could probably get a discount for 2 custom maps. The OTS E30 BM3 is stupid fast.

60-130 for MP E50 OTS and BM3 E30 OTS have been around 7.7 - 8.2 thus far from what I have seen. MP was the faster of the two - more ethanol.

MP is faster for the OTS map 0-60 from my experience. best BM3 E30 i could get was 3.22, best MP E50 was 2.94.

Thank you for the detailed explanation, so about $1500-$1600 total for fast 93 and E50 maps from BM3 vs. $900 or so from Mission Performance, got it.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by X3MMM

Thank you for the detailed explanation, so about $1500-$1600 total for fast 93 and E50 maps from BM3 vs. $900 or so from Mission Performance, got it.

Yes, but you go the MP route, you will need to purchase a BM3 or MHD license on top in order to be able to log. Running a tune without frequent logging is completely irresponsible.

[JL_X3M]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Yes, but you go the MP route, you will need to purchase a BM3 or MHD license on top in order to be able to log. Running a tune without frequent logging is completely irresponsible.

IMO you shouldn't have to log a OTS map. That means the tuner didn't do a good job in making it safe.

I haven't checked but do these tune have knock detection built in to warn if car isn't running good due to bad gas or boost leak and what not?

Also why don't I see many people running e85 full time? Is it cause the injector and pump can't handle? I rather run full e85 then mixing at the pump for e50.

[hellcat2m4]

Originally Posted by JL_X3M

IMO you shouldn't have to log a OTS map. That means the tuner didn't do a good job in making it safe.

I haven't checked but do these tune have knock detection built in to warn if car isn't running good due to bad gas or boost leak and what not?

Also why don't I see many people running e85 full time? Is it cause the injector and pump can't handle? I rather run full e85 then mixing at the pump for e50.

Yes, full e85 maxes out the hpfp in colder weather.

[X3MMM]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Yes, but you go the MP route, you will need to purchase a BM3 or MHD license on top in order to be able to log. Running a tune without frequent logging is completely irresponsible.

MP doesn't offer a logging solution?

[sd306]

Originally Posted by X3MMM

MP doesn't offer a logging solution?

not a convenient mobile one, that's why i made this write up:
https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showt...logging+mobile

Also, the MP wouldn't only be $900 for a 93 and E50. iirc Alex at MP said you can try the 93 and if you want the E50 you only pay the difference. But I don't think you have either map available at the same time. Map switching with MP is not convenient. So if you want MP then stick to the map you will use 99% of the time.

[sd306]

Originally Posted by JL_X3M

IMO you shouldn't have to log a OTS map. That means the tuner didn't do a good job in making it safe.

I haven't checked but do these tune have knock detection built in to warn if car isn't running good due to bad gas or boost leak and what not?

Also why don't I see many people running e85 full time? Is it cause the injector and pump can't handle? I rather run full e85 then mixing at the pump for e50.

I would always log. even if the tuner did a perfect job there will eventually be some cars that weren't built right or have hardware issues. also things like spark plugs at 40K miles don't perform like 1k miles spark plugs. that would all be caught with logging and reviewing the logs.

[FastPanther]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

What’s your 60-130 time?

Here you go not my best as I usually measure it as 100-200 km

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by FastPanther

Here you go not my best as I usually measure it as 100-200 km

Here is my 60-130 on Stage 1 E50, but I think I can get a slightly better time by improving my 60-70. It seems many of you guys launch the car rather than going WOT at 40-50 mph as it should be.

[J-Pizzle]

This thread has been a fun read for me. I have not done any mods yet, but reading through this it makes me want to start modding up the wife's X3M.

Just so I don't feel left out... and not to brag about it too much [haha ], but I took out a Ram 2500 Super Duty or something the other day. We were both up front at a red light on a slight incline. The lanes merge into 1 about 200 yards ahead. I didn't think anything about it but the guy started accelerating and I could tell he didn't want to let me merge. I just mashed the accelerator and that was the end of that debate. I turned to my wife and told her "that's how you get 'er done!" Needless to say my wife laughed at me but hey, a guy has to get his entertainment some how?

On a more serious note, the car in its stock form even for the non-comp model I have is amazing. I often think that this is way too much power for an SUV, but I was not complaining when the wife picked it out because she loved the color combo (Donnington Gray/Sakhir Orange interior). Happy hunting everyone!

[GT500R]

Originally Posted by X3MMM

Thank you for the detailed explanation, so about $1500-$1600 total for fast 93 and E50 maps from BM3 vs. $900 or so from Mission Performance, got it.

Don’t get fooled by some shady “stage 1” 60-130 dragys that supposedly prove which tune is faster.

I don’t think anyone here except myself and maybe SD have just a tune only like you are looking for and times to back it up. Some folks have deleted cats, intakes, and other mods yet it’s still “Stage 1” If that’s Stage 1 then I had stage .1

Just to show a real stage 1 60-130 and 1/4 on dragy. They are attached. Oh and I also have the only official track Stage 1 record (until someone with an actual stage 1 beats me).

And MP is about $980 I think for the fastest 93 and E50 ots if you go that route, the vids earlier show the gappening between those two tunes.

Good luck on your choice.

[FastPanther]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Here is my 60-130 on Stage 1 E50, but I think I can get a slightly better time by improving my 60-70. It seems many of you guys launch the car rather than going WOT at 40-50 mph as it should be.

What I do usually is keep it at 55 mile in 3 gear and I start from there.

[FastPanther]

Not really sure what the hidden mods are that you are referring to, but what I have is the drop on filters by Eventuri, custom stage 1 tune by Paul on E70.

It's true that I couldn't get a track record as I'm having issues with traction not sure is the track as it is well prepared or it's other factors. But still dragy result is a dragy result.
With the 10.51 I had a lot of spin as well if I can get better traction I'm sure I will be seeing 10.4X . Below are few dragy results.
All runs on 21" 11" width rims PZ4 305's stock exhaust stock Downpipes, light weight battery as I'm 240lbs 😅.
My last note: if your car is not as fast don't expect that others have extra mods it's ok to see other people having faster cars, I don't have shears on BM3 or will get bonus for having better sales. I'm a happy customer with them and shearing my experience only.

[GT500R]

Originally Posted by FastPanther

Not really sure what the hidden mods are that you are referring to, but what I have is the drop on filters by Eventuri, custom stage 1 tune by Paul on E70.

It's true that I couldn't get a track record as I'm having issues with traction not sure is the track as it is well prepared or it's other factors. But still dragy result is a dragy result.

Not directed toward you, just people discrediting actual racing videos earlier in the thread

Your car runs great, do you have a before dragy without filters? Would be interested to see how much they helped as we have very similar 60’ but you gain a tenth or so as the mph go up, most likely higher E tune and filters and a better DA, yet our MPH is the same indicating same power levels.

Hope you can get 10.5 at the track, but be careful a user has already thrashed their driveshaft at the track and it cost them quite a bit to repair.

[LimeRock]

Ran against an X5 50i (F15 gen) and walked right by him. Started around 30mph or so and had to shut down by 90, as there was an officer right over the hill...

[justmill]

Originally Posted by Weissach

Ran against an X5 50i (F15 gen) and walked right by him. Started around 30mph or so and had to shut down by 90, as there was an officer right over the hill...

30-90 is what like 2 seconds at most?

[LimeRock]

Originally Posted by justmill

30-90 is what like 2 seconds at most?

And what an exciting 2 seconds it was!

Met my match today — APR stage Golf R (mk7). Stoplight run #1 I got the jump and he couldn’t catch up. Run #2 he got the jump and it was dead even with him ahead (I wasn’t planning on playing the second time, but couldn’t resist after he took off).

Looks like they run 11.7 @ 114 with a downpipe and tune, so the result makes sense. Somewhat pleased with the result, as his hatchback sounded (and smelled) like a tractor.

[richard in NC]

Just the typical on-ramp turtle. I hate cars that poke along an onramp and merge into a 70 zone going 40. The second it was clear and I could move over, I did a nice 40-80 3rd gear pull, blowing away an Audi A3/A4 and 2 other cars merging ahead of me, in the process. A mile later, just cruising a middle lane at 80, the Audi goes blasting by, weaving thru traffic at 100+. No need for that, on a busy interstate.