[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by Max Well

We're pleased with the suspension on our X3MCs, but thanks for sharing this thread and the information/science involved with the springs. Always wishing to learn, especially in the understanding of what allows our high performance vehicles to be able to perform as they do.

Max, these springs are good if you want to lower the car without turning it into a wooden kart. They still keep the ride pretty comfortable.

[Spoolin55]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Max, these springs are good if you want to lower the car without turning it into a wooden kart. They still keep the ride pretty comfortable.

Alex you have these on your truck?

Where in SFL are you? Im in Fort Lauderdale maybe we can meet up.

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

I am very well satisfied with the stock suspension too. Just trying to help out others that want more comfort and/or lowering.

So far I found the car handles better at high speed turn than stock. At 80mph high bank freeway connector, I can feel the car tilted against it much more at stock height and suspension. With lowering, it stays flatter. But further driving and testing need to be done. Will hit the track in May when local track open up. Other track are available, but they are over 1 hour away. And most not allowing SUV/SAV on the track.

You're doing a great job explaining your mods as you go - learning a lot along the way.

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Max, these springs are good if you want to lower the car without turning it into a wooden kart. They still keep the ride pretty comfortable.

I still haven't seen any vertical CG data for the F97/98 so we can't calculate the SSF, but would be interested in comparing OEM vs. lowered SSFs as you'd think lowering should improve that. If so, one would expect improved stability and handling - to what extent hard to know unless formal testing could show (skid pad, slalom, etc).

Although I doubt we'll ever see wind tunnel testing OEM vs lowered (and with and without aerodynamic additions such as AC Schnitzer's front splitter and rear roof wing), these could possibly improve the Cd (again, without data unknown if they would have a significant effect on high-speed performance).

Many may mod solely for aesthetic/sound but would be interesting to see if some of these actually do provide a noticeable improvement in performance and handling.

[clutchdj]

Originally Posted by Max Well

but would be interested in comparing OEM vs. lowered SSFs...

This is where I am trying to get. Some manuf just don’t share it lol.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by Spoolin55

Alex you have these on your truck?

Where in SFL are you? Im in Fort Lauderdale maybe we can meet up.

I haven’t installed them yet. Waiting for all mod parts to arrive. Should have all the work done by the end of April. I live more north, Treasure Coast area. Maybe we should all meet at the PBIR and have some fun.

[dazzapb]

Had indicative pricing from evolve in the UK. Pinging Imran@Evolve directly - maybe forum discount for the Uk mate?

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Had indicative pricing from evolve in the UK. Pinging Imran@Evolve directly - maybe forum discount for the Uk mate?

Good call.

Maybe he can chime in since he has it on his F90 M5 I believe.

[Spoolin55]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

I haven’t installed them yet. Waiting for all mod parts to arrive. Should have all the work done by the end of April. I live more north, Treasure Coast area. Maybe we should all meet at the PBIR and have some fun.

Nice! Who is the US vendor?

[dazzapb]

Does a drop in ride height impact the comfort? I'm happy with the current ride height so it would be purely for increased comfort.

Don't get me wrong I'm happy with ride in general but a little more pliancy for the kids in their seats would be a bonus.

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by Spoolin55

Nice! Who is the US vendor?

I am MSS reseller.

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Does a drop in ride height impact the comfort? I'm happy with the current ride height so it would be purely for increased comfort.

Don't get me wrong I'm happy with ride in general but a little more pliancy for the kids in their seats would be a bonus.

Overall the ride is more comfortable than stock Comp suspension.

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Overall the ride is more comfortable than stock Comp suspension.

thanks man, for me it would only be for comfort, kinda had the idea of doing from day 1 if this came to market.

would you agree with the spiel on their website?

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Why do you need MSS suspension?

You would assume for a compact, easy-to-park SUV, the X3 would be the perfect vehicle for your daily office commute or school run, but the reality is the suspension is disappointing. Quite often when asked to translate its performance capabilities into a controlled, slower request, the X3 can feel unstable.
If you are driving on roads that are not silky smooth, you’ll more than likely feel every pothole on the road and be welcomed with a lovely thud as the occupants of the car are pushed up and down in their seats. It’s heartbreaking for the SUV driver who is wanting their car to fulfill its lush external promise, which is where MSS can help.
What to expect after installation…

After rigorous testing and fine-tuning, MSS for this range smooths the ride to a graceful glide. Potholes and bumps that once created such discord and jolting are now easy and light. The already fantastic steering on these vehicles is enhanced to respond to city traffic and passengers will appreciate the reduction in roll once MSS has been installed.
If you’re wanting the lowered aesthetics, you will not have to compromise as URBAN brings fantastic lowering capabilities and still delivers hugely improved comfort.
MSS Urban

MSS Urban will provide your SUV with a significant ride-quality upgrade over OEM and traditional aftermarket suspension solutions.
Our dual-stacked, triple rated springs enhance the versatility of the SUV, overcoming the demands of day-to-day driving. The stability of your vehicle will increase and you will feel a reduction in the discomfort that is often felt when driving on rough roads.

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

thanks man, for me it would only be for comfort, kinda had the idea of doing from day 1 if this came to market.

would you agree with the spiel on their website?

*******************

Why do you need MSS suspension?

You would assume for a compact, easy-to-park SUV, the X3 would be the perfect vehicle for your daily office commute or school run, but the reality is the suspension is disappointing. Quite often when asked to translate its performance capabilities into a controlled, slower request, the X3 can feel unstable.
If you are driving on roads that are not silky smooth, you’ll more than likely feel every pothole on the road and be welcomed with a lovely thud as the occupants of the car are pushed up and down in their seats. It’s heartbreaking for the SUV driver who is wanting their car to fulfill its lush external promise, which is where MSS can help.
What to expect after installation…

After rigorous testing and fine-tuning, MSS for this range smooths the ride to a graceful glide. Potholes and bumps that once created such discord and jolting are now easy and light. The already fantastic steering on these vehicles is enhanced to respond to city traffic and passengers will appreciate the reduction in roll once MSS has been installed.
If you’re wanting the lowered aesthetics, you will not have to compromise as URBAN brings fantastic lowering capabilities and still delivers hugely improved comfort.
MSS Urban

MSS Urban will provide your SUV with a significant ride-quality upgrade over OEM and traditional aftermarket suspension solutions.
Our dual-stacked, triple rated springs enhance the versatility of the SUV, overcoming the demands of day-to-day driving. The stability of your vehicle will increase and you will feel a reduction in the discomfort that is often felt when driving on rough roads.

Yes, I do agree with the statement.

I forgot to mentioned, the thud, is lessen now.

IMO, X3M and X3M Comp. doesn't have that much deadening in the trunk liner to reduce weight. It is M car after all.
I believe, if you don't have spare, the thud is more noticeable. Like in my case.
But, I am used with street/track coilover that is running solid monoball mounts.
So, thuds doesn't bother me at all.

[dazzapb]

Thanks - someone on here put some silent coat under the trunk carpet not sure of the outcome.

Sorry my previous post wasn't clear, if I got these springs installed, if I elected to keep stock ride height would that be more comfortable than if it was installed and lowered?

appreciate the help

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Thanks - someone on here put some silent coat under the trunk carpet not sure of the outcome.

Sorry my previous post wasn't clear, if I got these springs installed, if I elected to keep stock ride height would that be more comfortable than if it was installed and lowered?

appreciate the help

It will be more comfortable at stock height since you'll have more shock travel.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Good call.

Maybe he can chime in since he has it on his F90 M5 I believe.

Had the development set on our F90 M5 for 6 months or so before release. Was upset to take it off while MSS finalised everything. Was glad to get it back on! Lower than stock and more comfortable. Its WIN WIN.

[Tricky401]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Had indicative pricing from evolve in the UK. Pinging Imran@Evolve directly - maybe forum discount for the Uk mate?

can you pm me the indicative price rather than me pestering evolve

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by Tricky401

can you pm me the indicative price rather than me pestering evolve

The kit is £720 inc VAT and its about 5 hours to fit. If you email sales@evolveautomotive.com they can provide you with quotes and lead times.

[AlexFL]

It would be interesting to provide Joe Achilles an X3M fitted with MSS springs for testing. I know Imran got him these springs for his M2C.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

It would be interesting to provide Joe Achilles an X3M fitted with MSS springs for testing. I know Imran got him these springs for his M2C.

I'll be trying out a set myself next week and will make a video on it.

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

I'll be trying out a set myself next week and will make a video on it.

That would be nice. It will help a lot of end users that may be interested.

[M5 TT]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

I'll be trying out a set myself next week and will make a video on it.

Look forward to it. I had MSS on my RS3 saloon and found the car way too bouncy. Looking for more comfort but no bouncy. Maybe just me having them set up too low?