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      12-31-2019, 04:18 PM   #45
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Is there a BM3 stage 1 available yet for purchase?
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none of this is very impressive considering how terrible the power delivery is after the tune.

great for the dragstrip I guess
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none of this is very impressive considering how terrible the power delivery is after the tune.

great for the dragstrip I guess
Have you driven with the tune yet?


The chart shows a constant power band after 3250 rpm with the stage 1 tune.
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@protuningfreaks Bootmod3 - S58 - OTS Stage 1 beta map results on this 2020 X3M.
Gains are awesome and show some really amazing potential on this new platform!

DYNO PULLS
STOCK 93: 459whp 429wtq
STAGE 1 93: 551whp 532wtq
STAGE 1 E30: 579whp 572wtq

Thank you to @aimperformancenj for having fun with us testing out #bootmod3 software👊👊

+100whp on just a reflash on Stage 1 93 octane so far
+120whp on Stage1 E30

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I'll be posting my friend's new 2020 X3 M40i (B58-T0) result in a different thread next.
Can you imagine the new G80 M3 with a flash. Its lighter and so much faster, big grill or not. 0-62 will be sub 3 seconds. We enter the era of the new GTR type of performance.
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Damn, that is fast. I wonder how much this motor can take...I didn't see any mention of any other mods besides the remap.
A lot.... I keep telling guys the new M3 will be a problem lol
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Have you driven with the tune yet?


The chart shows a more constant power band rating with the stage 1 tune.
are we looking at the same chart? the results are not linear whatsoever. Unless the definition of linear has changed in 2020?

anyone can make a tune look good but make for terrible daily driving. even on the x3 m40 forum people are complaining about tunes not being smooth.

again it's good for the track nothing else
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Have you driven with the tune yet?


The chart shows a more constant power band rating with the stage 1 tune.
are we looking at the same chart? the results are not linear whatsoever. Unless the definition of linear has changed in 2020?

anyone can make a tune look good but make for terrible daily driving. even on the x3 m40 forum people are complaining about tunes not being smooth.

again it's good for the track nothing else
The graph looks good to me. I see a flat torque curve, with more power and torque than stock. I would be concerned if I saw a parabolic torque curve with spiking torque. Remember, this is not a naturally aspirated engine, those days are long gone.

As far as drivability, it's difficult to control power delivery with a small displacement engine (remember 1.5 liters feeding each turbo) because the engine can't make much torque without the turbos spooled. This is do to the combination of having small displacement and running lower compression for a forced induction engine. So, when the turbo spools you feel the engine spike in torque which usually will cause the tires to break loose. This is where having all wheel drive comes into play. If you stay in front of your peak torque, you will not feel that spike in torque. Also, having a torque converter will inherently help power delivery by acting like a shock absorber to the engine.

There's a lot more to it, I don't have time to get into, but this is a general summary in a nutshell.
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that's a fair point about it not being NA. I test drove the X3MC before placing an order and it definitely felt smoother than the X3m40 I have currently which is why I take these charts at face value.
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Power potential is insane.
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These motors are absolutely insane. Can’t wait to see this powertrain stuffed in the G80 M3.

I may have missed it but...any 60-130mph or 100-200kph times? Curious to see how the X3/X4 platform carries itself upstairs.
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Have you driven with the tune yet?


The chart shows a more constant power band rating with the stage 1 tune.
are we looking at the same chart? the results are not linear whatsoever. Unless the definition of linear has changed in 2020?

anyone can make a tune look good but make for terrible daily driving. even on the x3 m40 forum people are complaining about tunes not being smooth.

again it's good for the track nothing else
Which tunes are the people complaining about?
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Which tunes are the people complaining about?
Mine was 100% smooth

I o my heard of JB4 being not smooth on part throttle but heard that’s gotten better.

But also LOL for looking at a dyno and saying the power won’t be smooth or good for daily 😂
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Power potential is insane.
With 18% Drivetrain loss it’s 700 hp on the E30... insane.
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Amazing numbers! Flash tuning is where its at and none do it better than the bootmod3 folks IMHO. Piggybacks can never have the smoothness of a proper flash tune.
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Amazing numbers! Flash tuning is where its at and none do it better than the bootmod3 folks IMHO. Piggybacks can never have the smoothness of a proper flash tune.
True that.
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Comparing S55 and S58 torque delivery w/ bm3:

S55 bm3 Stage 1 91 octane ver 9.1-

420 tq @2900
440 tq @3100
525 tq @3600
544 tq @4200 MAX
510 tq @4800
475 tq @5600
440 tq @6200
375 tq @6800

S58 bm3 Stage 1 93 octane BETA-

280 tq @2900
350 tq @3100
485 tq @3600
532 tq @4230 MAX
520 tq @4800
480 tq @5600
450 tq @6200
430 tq @6800

I'm guessing that the dyno for the X3 M pulls is showing mild low-end torque results because of the tuner being on the safe side during beta testing, maybe boost reducing 1st and 2nd gears. Nice mid-range and top-end results though!
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Amazing numbers! Flash tuning is where its at and none do it better than the bootmod3 folks IMHO. Piggybacks can never have the smoothness of a proper flash tune.
What other tunes have you tried?
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This is great! Can't wait to transfer my M3 license and tune this thing.

It needs downpipes though ASAP. Those would really open this up but it's been radio silence for the DP's
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And with that, the S55 is as predicted a forgotten motor.
I wouldn't go that far. MaxPSI is pushing 900+ WHP with their keyed crank hub. It's still an incredible motor and reliability wise leagues above the S65, S85, S54.

I'll be on this platform for good, doesn't matter how fast the G80 M3 is that front grill is absolutely disgusting.

I'd 1000000% get an X3M though. Decisions, decisions.
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