Panoramic roof rattle

bmtespar · 06-29-2018, 07:13 PM

I have discussed this in a previous post but did not specifically label the post as such. I have had a rattle that sounds like it is coming from behind me in the roof area. I have taken it to the shop and the dealer said they couldn’t replicate the rattle. I’m waiting to have my trim pieces replaced for defective ambient lighting and will re-address this when I take it in. I had a friend ride with me today and he sat in the back. He said he heard the rattle but it sounded like it was in front of him. To me it sounded like it was behind me. I was finally able to isolate the noise and stop the rattling by putting a little pressure on the edge of the articulating glass. Im sharing this because I’m sure others have heard this rattling but could figure it out. I’ll follow up once get the car to the dealer and back. I know at least one other person who had the same experience.

DigiSage · 06-29-2018, 09:50 PM

Thank you for sharing this. I have the exact same rattle, and I can make it go away by doing the exact same thing. I'm taking it in to see if they can fix it next week. I'd really love to discover some way of fixing it at home so I don't have to take it in.

bmtespar · 06-29-2018, 10:19 PM

Please share your findings with the dealer. This kind of specific posts help others diagnose their own issues. I’m hoping for a permanent fix when I take my car in. Sometimes they lubricate the seals and that will get rid of creaks but only for a while.

SenseiSimple · 06-30-2018, 02:00 AM

Phew, glad to know i'm not the only one, it didn't start rattling until about 3 months and seems to be sensitive to temperature/sun exposure. I don't get the rattle late afternoon or at night, but it's the loudest in full sun around 10AM-2PM here in Austin.

And doesn't rattle on bumps, but rather rough-ish roads with a lot of surface variation or small potholes.

I was worried that they'd say it was because of the new roof cross bars but it started before that and has gotten louder.

Kief · 06-30-2018, 04:36 AM

I have the same noise (I think)...been wanting my wife to ride in the back to try and locate the noise while I drive. I'll check the sunroof today.

arciga18 · 06-30-2018, 08:12 AM

A quick picture of the area would help the community. I know I'm interested .

bmtespar · 06-30-2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by arciga18

A quick picture of the area would help the community. I know I'm interested .

I can post a picture but it is the area where the articulating glass meets the fixed portion of the panoramic roof. The seam where those two meet.

mjdth · 06-30-2018, 01:34 PM

Thanks for posting the details I've been dealing with this too. Dealer "fixed" it but then I had a different rattle from a similar area that was temporarily solved by pressing on the overhead console where the sunroof controls are held.

DigiSage · 06-30-2018, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mjdth

Thanks for posting the details I've been dealing with this too. Dealer "fixed" it but then I had a different rattle from a similar area that was temporarily solved by pressing on the overhead console where the sunroof controls are held.

How did the dealer fix it?

bmtespar · 06-30-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DigiSage

How did the dealer fix it?

Yes, please share details on the fix

bmtespar · 07-10-2018, 04:19 PM

Does anyone else have an update on getting this fixed? I’m still waiting for my ambient trim pieces to arrive so I can take the car in. Mine is rattling pretty consistently now and is driving me crazy. Everyone riding in my new car key asking “what was that rattle?”. It’s kinda embarrassing.

KTMF · 07-10-2018, 07:20 PM

Here is a link that shows the proper adjustment of the roof panels. You migh want to check to make sure everything is lined up as a first step.

I lubed the outside rubber seals at the back of the glass panel and roof junction, where I was getting a rattle. Has been quiet since I did this.

http://https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g01-x3-m40i-sav/repair-manuals/54-slide-tilt-sunroof-soft-top/54-13-panorama-glass-roof/1VncAyrjQh

bmtespar · 07-10-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KTMF

Here is a link that shows the proper adjustment of the roof panels. You migh want to check to make sure everything is lined up as a first step.

I lubed the outside rubber seals at the back of the glass panel and roof junction, where I was getting a rattle. Has been quiet since I did this.

http://https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g01-x3-m40i-sav/repair-manuals/54-slide-tilt-sunroof-soft-top/54-13-panorama-glass-roof/1VncAyrjQh

Thanks for sharing but the link doesn’t work.

GL · 07-10-2018, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bmtespar

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTMF

Here is a link that shows the proper adjustment of the roof panels. You migh want to check to make sure everything is lined up as a first step.

I lubed the outside rubber seals at the back of the glass panel and roof junction, where I was getting a rattle. Has been quiet since I did this.

http://https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g01-x3-m40i-sav/repair-manuals/54-slide-tilt-sunroof-soft-top/54-13-panorama-glass-roof/1VncAyrjQh

Thanks for sharing but the link doesn’t work.

Link works fine. Thanks for sharing.

bmtespar · 07-10-2018, 08:10 PM

It’s working now. Thanks for sharing.

Jayf30 · 07-10-2018, 09:06 PM

Interestingly enough, I experienced this roof rattle once and it hasn't returned after that. Hoping it was just a tease and never comes back.

DigiSage · 07-11-2018, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTMF

Here is a link that shows the proper adjustment of the roof panels. You migh want to check to make sure everything is lined up as a first step.

I lubed the outside rubber seals at the back of the glass panel and roof junction, where I was getting a rattle. Has been quiet since I did this.

http://https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g01-x3-m40i-sav/repair-manuals/54-slide-tilt-sunroof-soft-top/54-13-panorama-glass-roof/1VncAyrjQh

Which lubricant did you use?

KTMF · 07-11-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DigiSage

Which lubricant did you use?

Either worked well for me. I like the Mothers because it is a little thicker. And smells terrific.

ParadigmDawg · 07-11-2018, 05:13 PM

My 2 Audi's, my 2 Benz and my M40i all had rattling Pano's. I tried to correct the first one but when the weather would get much cooler or hotter it would just come back so I ignore the rattle now.

530iDriver · 07-15-2018, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg

My 2 Audi's, my 2 Benz and my M40i all had rattling Pano's. I tried to correct the first one but when the weather would get much cooler or hotter it would just come back so I ignore the rattle now.

Rattling is a very common complaint regarding pano sunroofs. I have a friend currently battling the same issue on his 5K mile Volvo SUV,

I believe BMW did the right thing by skipping the pano sunroof on the BMW G30 5-Series and instead, adding a larger opening while still using a single panel glass. No issues here after 18K miles.

bmtespar · 07-15-2018, 11:30 AM

This is my 3rd bmw with a pano roof in addition to countless loaners over the years and it is the only one I have experienced this rattle. If we don’t voice our displeasure with these rattles, they’ll never be fixed.

Godetan · 07-18-2018, 12:02 AM

Hi All,

Noticed the rattle in the sunroof in mine after I picked it up 2 weeks ago.

It only does it at speeds up to 80kmh... on a freeway over 100kmh it doesn't at all.

Air pressure at higher speeds may push it down I guess?

Dealer is having a look at it next week...

I'll report back when/if fixed

06-29-2018, 07:13 PM	#1
bmtespar Major 709 Rep 1,066 Posts Drives: 19 X3 30i, 18 230iX Vert Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Ga iTrader: (0)	Panoramic roof rattle I have discussed this in a previous post but did not specifically label the post as such. I have had a rattle that sounds like it is coming from behind me in the roof area. I have taken it to the shop and the dealer said they couldn’t replicate the rattle. I’m waiting to have my trim pieces replaced for defective ambient lighting and will re-address this when I take it in. I had a friend ride with me today and he sat in the back. He said he heard the rattle but it sounded like it was in front of him. To me it sounded like it was behind me. I was finally able to isolate the noise and stop the rattling by putting a little pressure on the edge of the articulating glass. Im sharing this because I’m sure others have heard this rattling but could figure it out. I’ll follow up once get the car to the dealer and back. I know at least one other person who had the same experience.
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DigiSage First Lieutenant 143 Rep 394 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 M40i Join Date: May 2006 Location: Albany, New York Metropolitan Area iTrader: (0)	Thank you for sharing this. I have the exact same rattle, and I can make it go away by doing the exact same thing. I'm taking it in to see if they can fix it next week. I'd really love to discover some way of fixing it at home so I don't have to take it in.
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bmtespar Major 709 Rep 1,066 Posts Drives: 19 X3 30i, 18 230iX Vert Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Ga iTrader: (0)	Please share your findings with the dealer. This kind of specific posts help others diagnose their own issues. I’m hoping for a permanent fix when I take my car in. Sometimes they lubricate the seals and that will get rid of creaks but only for a while.
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SenseiSimple New Member 9 Rep 8 Posts Drives: Alpine White X3 M40i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Phew, glad to know i'm not the only one, it didn't start rattling until about 3 months and seems to be sensitive to temperature/sun exposure. I don't get the rattle late afternoon or at night, but it's the loudest in full sun around 10AM-2PM here in Austin. And doesn't rattle on bumps, but rather rough-ish roads with a lot of surface variation or small potholes. I was worried that they'd say it was because of the new roof cross bars but it started before that and has gotten louder.
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Kief Major General 4434 Rep 5,730 Posts Drives: '24 iX50; '23 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika iTrader: (26)	I have the same noise (I think)...been wanting my wife to ride in the back to try and locate the noise while I drive. I'll check the sunroof today. __________________ __________________ '24-I20 iX 50; '23-G26 i4 M50; '22-G82 M4Cx;20-G05 M50i; '20-F82 M4CS; '18-F80 M3CS; '18-F80 M3CS; '18-F85 X5M; '18-G01 X3M40i; '18-F80 M3ZCP; '17-F80 M3ZCP; '15-F15 X5; '15-F82 M4; '12-E92 335is; '11-E70 X5d; '11-E89 Z435is;'09-E89 Z435i; '08-E92 335i; '06-E90 330i; '05-E83 X3; '04-E83 X3; '03-E46 325Ci* *retired
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bmtespar Major 709 Rep 1,066 Posts Drives: 19 X3 30i, 18 230iX Vert Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Ga iTrader: (0)	Does anyone else have an update on getting this fixed? I’m still waiting for my ambient trim pieces to arrive so I can take the car in. Mine is rattling pretty consistently now and is driving me crazy. Everyone riding in my new car key asking “what was that rattle?”. It’s kinda embarrassing.
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07-10-2018, 07:20 PM	#12
KTMF Enlisted Member 21 Rep 37 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Northern California iTrader: (0)	Here is a link that shows the proper adjustment of the roof panels. You migh want to check to make sure everything is lined up as a first step. I lubed the outside rubber seals at the back of the glass panel and roof junction, where I was getting a rattle. Has been quiet since I did this. http://https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g01-x3-m40i-sav/repair-manuals/54-slide-tilt-sunroof-soft-top/54-13-panorama-glass-roof/1VncAyrjQh Last edited by KTMF; 07-10-2018 at 07:25 PM.. Reason: fixed link!
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bmtespar Major 709 Rep 1,066 Posts Drives: 19 X3 30i, 18 230iX Vert Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Ga iTrader: (0)	It’s working now. Thanks for sharing.
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Jayf30 Lieutenant 633 Rep 568 Posts Drives: '18 X3 M40i Dark Graphite Cogn Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: SF iTrader: (0)	Interestingly enough, I experienced this roof rattle once and it hasn't returned after that. Hoping it was just a tease and never comes back. __________________ 18 X3 M40i/ Dark Graphite/ Cognac/ MP ECU Stage 2.5
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ParadigmDawg Captain 610 Rep 893 Posts Drives: 2019 AMG GLC63s Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Fort Worth, Texas iTrader: (0)	My 2 Audi's, my 2 Benz and my M40i all had rattling Pano's. I tried to correct the first one but when the weather would get much cooler or hotter it would just come back so I ignore the rattle now.
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bmtespar Major 709 Rep 1,066 Posts Drives: 19 X3 30i, 18 230iX Vert Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Ga iTrader: (0)	This is my 3rd bmw with a pano roof in addition to countless loaners over the years and it is the only one I have experienced this rattle. If we don’t voice our displeasure with these rattles, they’ll never be fixed.
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Godetan New Member 6 Rep 5 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	Hi All, Noticed the rattle in the sunroof in mine after I picked it up 2 weeks ago. It only does it at speeds up to 80kmh... on a freeway over 100kmh it doesn't at all. Air pressure at higher speeds may push it down I guess? Dealer is having a look at it next week... I'll report back when/if fixed
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