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      09-09-2022, 07:51 PM   #23
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YEA!! This is exactly what nobody wanted!
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Makes sense. The Inflation Act incentivizes electric SUVs.
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It's weird. Previously it used to be a big deal chasing that extra 0.1 seconds in the 0-60 or 1/4 mile. Sounds used to matter. Reliability used to matter. Looks used to matter. Soon enough a base electric Kia will do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds and a iM3 will do it in 1.8. Somehow it doesn't sound as exciting.
Eventually I think we'll see the Feds step in and limit the performance of these EV's. I find it a bit counterproductive to mandate certain safety features/requirements and then allow cars to accelerate almost as fast as an F-18 Hornet off a catapult launch on public roads.
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      09-09-2022, 09:26 PM   #28
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Eventually I think we'll see the Feds step in and limit the performance of these EV's. I find it a bit counterproductive to mandate certain safety features/requirements and then allow cars to accelerate almost as fast as an F-18 Hornet off a catapult launch on public roads.
My guess is the government will regulate it too. I wonder also with all electric cars if peak power will become a setting. Like a valet mode, tbh I wouldn't want my kid borrowing a 600hp SUV. Would love to tune it down when they are using it.
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Eventually I think we'll see the Feds step in and limit the performance of these EV's. I find it a bit counterproductive to mandate certain safety features/requirements and then allow cars to accelerate almost as fast as an F-18 Hornet off a catapult launch on public roads.
I believe it’s too late, the Plaids are out. Feds won’t touch Elon’s favorite party trick.
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Wow!
They should be quick!
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      09-10-2022, 02:19 AM   #33
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About a year ago I remember reading on Bimmerpost news an interview article that BMW executive management was still fully committed to designing small ICE that get high mpg and put out strong HP likely to be integrated into hybrid systems. Seems like a logical step to me. At least until we have a power and charging grid that can support the greenies dreams of world wide EV utopia. I won't even get into the amount of mining chemical production needed and disposal of Lord knows how many used up batteries.

I find it interesting how the public in general is so willing to bend over on EV government mandates. As if "we the people"without question have to drive what they THINK is going to save the planet. (Providing our genius politicians don't get us nuked us into oblivion first). 95% of drivers just want to get from point A to B reliably. They will happily and without resistance drive an EV. The so called "enthusiasts" (us) savor our ICE and will likely tolerate a hybrid system of some sort. I don't see us all forced into full EV's anytime soon so keep the faith and don't give up so easily.
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BMWBlog claims that their sources are stating this rumor is not true.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/09/09/n...anned-in-2023/
Exactly. Until we see it this may simply be fake news & more EV hype...
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I'm gonna miss the exhaust sound. Wish they would have done hybrid first.
The new GLC Phev does 75miles on Electric, shame no X3 Phev!

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I believe it’s too late, the Plaids are out. Feds won’t touch Elon’s favorite party trick.
It's never too late for the Feds to screw with anything.
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I believe it's too late, the Plaids are out. Feds won't touch Elon's favorite party trick.
It's never too late for the Feds to screw with anything.
All it takes is one over-the-air update.
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Personally, when it comes down to it, I prefer sound to speed. I'd honestly take a slow-rolling B48 with FI exhaust over an EV that does 0-60 in 1.8 seconds.
Same here! You lose a lot of the driving characteristics when driving an EV.
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Personally, when it comes down to it, I prefer sound to speed. I'd honestly take a slow-rolling B48 with FI exhaust over an EV that does 0-60 in 1.8 seconds.
I think after this initial WOW factor you'll see more and more people feel the same way. I believe synthetic fuels are the way to go. It needs scalability, but it will work in all ICE vehicles, is carbon neural provided the fuel is produced from clean energy unlike EV power, and will allow long term sustainability. Sound IS important to many people. Sadly not everyone especially those in government.
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I would prefer the M3 as an EV. Like the i4 M50 but full M chassis, steering, etc. I know I'm in the minority here but I don't really care about sound.
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Personally, when it comes down to it, I prefer sound to speed. I'd honestly take a slow-rolling B48 with FI exhaust over an EV that does 0-60 in 1.8 seconds.
I think after this initial WOW factor you'll see more and more people feel the same way. I believe synthetic fuels are the way to go. It needs scalability, but it will work in all ICE vehicles, is carbon neural provided the fuel is produced from clean energy unlike EV power, and will allow long term sustainability. Sound IS important to many people. Sadly not everyone especially those in government.
I've been thinking the exact same thing, and I also hope BMW, Toyota, Hyundai and other companies keep looking into hydrogen EVs. I've lived my entire life in big cities where millions of people rely on street parking. I just don't understand how and who is going to pay for the infrastructure to charge all of those cars.
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I've been thinking the exact same thing, and I also hope BMW, Toyota, Hyundai and other companies keep looking into hydrogen EVs. I've lived my entire life in big cities where millions of people rely on street parking. I just don't understand how and who is going to pay for the infrastructure to charge all of those cars.
I agree. It seems like these bold pronouncements about banning ICE cars have been made without much thought or planning about how it will all work. EV's work great if you can nightly charge. But that is certainly not the case for 100% of people. Not even close. So we have tons of EV's being pumped out by manufacturers now while the infrastructure is severely lacking. I don't get it but maybe it will all somehow magically work out.
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I'll drive alongside you in my true M to make it sound real.
That's only if you can keep up.....
Where's he really going without a proper charging network.
People say this but I've been all over in my EV with no charging network issues. Sure there are some small dead spots off the beaten path, you may be out of luck if you want to go to North Dakota, but I've been all over Utah, Idaho, Nevada, California, no sweat.

On I15 and I80 there are more 350kw stops than Tesla has supercharger locations, every 75 miles or so. You barely even have to plan anymore.
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I hear this all the time and I understand that we will all eventually be forced into this but until that happens, I have no interest in planning a trip around waiting for charge stations to open and having to sit and wait a second longer than it takes for me to put gas in my car.
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