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      09-05-2021, 09:03 PM   #45
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Have never driven the m40i but can tell you the x3MC is very very stiff in the comfort ride. Mine averages 11.9mpg and is never really driven on the highways.

That being said, i should've gotten the m40i…but it's my wife's car and she gets what she wants.
See, that's the problem with opinions… everybody has one.

I don't think the X3M is stiff at all, especially in comfort.

My wife hated my previous M3 comp. She reminded me of it every time I made her get in the car.

She tried the X3M and said it was civil, no issues with comfort. She was driving in the most comfortable setting.

No issues riding in the back either.

So… this is obviously anecdotal but in my personal opinion the X3M is perfectly fine and comfortable. In fact, I'd like it stiffer and louder in sport+.

Best option is to actually drive one and see for oneself.

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I went from a 2018 X3 M40i to a 2021 X3MC. The M40i is a great ride/deal but the X3MC is simply in a different class. So it really depends on how you drive. If you like the mash the pedal once or twice a day, go with the X3MC.
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Do you think people have this same conversation about the M340i vs the M3? Or is it somehow more obvious in that case?
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The m340i guys removes the 340i logo and call it a day
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      09-06-2021, 07:13 AM   #49
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Do you think people have this same conversation about the M340i vs the M3? Or is it somehow more obvious in that case?
Yes they do for almost the same reasons. Except the m340i has a leg up on the M3 in that it's tolerable to look at.
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Why do people care about cold starts; a momentary loudness that quiets down soon after start up?
My 2018 M40i was always loud. Especially on start up. I could drive for 3 hours straight, shut it off - restart and the car would be just as loud as if it had sat overnight. Loved it

Back on topic all things considered, although the G01 M40i is very sporty in its own right. With the exhaust note being an exception, In my personal opinion the F97 ///M is rawer and on another tier. It feels like an ///M car, heftness, high revs, etc. many of the typical ///M traits are present - including the quirks.
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One last thing from my perspective. For those on the fence, who don’t necessarily want the rawness of an F97/F98 ///M as well as those who may be concerned with fuel consumption. For 2022, BMW has made it really easy for those folks. For all intensive purposes the LCI M40i is about 98% there “looks wise” you get the ///M mirrors, blackout trim, ///M grill badge, ///M tricolor stitching on the steering wheel, hell in Europe I think you can spec ///M seat belts and seats Content wise, it’s probably enough for a lot of folks to not want to stretch an extra 10k or so. The G01 M40i in the attached photos has an MSRP of $73k. I can imagine for some that are comparing both, that’s all they will need, and trying to convince them that an MPerformance vehicle is not a full ///M will be like trying to argue their birthdate - This is nothing new. Back in the day (80’s) an E28 M535i was damn near identical to the M5 from the same period.
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      09-06-2021, 05:31 PM   #52
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One last thing from my perspective. For those on the fence, who don't necessarily want the rawness of an F97/F98 ///M as well as those who may be concerned with fuel consumption. For 2022, BMW has made it really easy for those folks. For all intensive purposes the LCI M40i is about 98% there "looks wise" you get the ///M mirrors, blackout trim, ///M grill badge, ///M tricolor stitching on the steering wheel, hell in Europe I think you can spec ///M seat belts and seats Content wise, it's probably enough for a lot of folks to not want to stretch an extra 10k or so. The G01 M40i in the attached photos has an MSRP of $73k. I can imagine for some that are comparing both, that's all they will need, and trying to convince them that an MPerformance vehicle is not a full ///M will be like trying to argue their birthdate - This is nothing new. Back in the day (80's) an E28 M535i was damn near identical to the M5 from the same period.
Isn't a base X3M around $73k too? Seems like it wouldn't make a lot of sense for a little extra $$ to not get the real thing.
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Isn't a base X3M around $73k too? Seems like it wouldn't make a lot of sense for a little extra $$ to not get the real thing.
Yep, you’re right. Now the cost of entry is starting to overlap
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Boy, I never thought BMW would put the M mirrors and tri color stitched steering wheel on anything but a full "M" vehicle. That's just wrong. They just keep diluting the M brand.
But they don't care. It's all about stuffing more money into the stockholders pockets.
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      09-06-2021, 10:48 PM   #55
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hol up lol what?

M40i is B58 X3M/C is S58

Chassis and suspension completely different

the power band is completely different between the B58 and S58

not even close to being the same car over just a tune and exhaust my guy
BINGO....what kind of utter nonsense is going on here saying the M340i is better than 2022 X3 M with Comp?

CAR IS INSANE.

Faster and better handling than my 2017 M3 Competition tuned.

Had a professional motocross racer today in my car driving it and he looked at me and laughed with glee.

He paddle shifted it down the freeway and hit two curvy off-ramps and said "Best SUV on the planet hands down".
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A sheep in wolf's clothing

An X3 M40i with M mirrors and grill is just a sheep in wolf's clothing.

FFS 73K for an M40i! That's base level X3M territory and with good negotiations one can get a well equipped X3MC under 80K.
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An X3 M40i with M mirrors and grill is just a sheep in wolf's clothing.

FFS 73K for an M40i! That's base level X3M territory and with good negotiations one can get a well equipped X3MC under 80K.
Not sure how or why someone would pay 73k for an m40i.. mine was msrp of 63 and change and got it for under 59k. I built an m40i on the site with every single option and it doesn't even hit 70k. Poor guy got scammed lol
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The M enthusiast in me will tell you to get the M, always. The pragmatist in me says the m40i is for the daily drivers.

It's not purely about cost - if you drive more than 10-12k a year, a real M car is not a good choice for MOST people. Driving a modern day M car is a commitment to performance above all else, and that means sacrifices in a lot of other areas that will be acceptable to a small few and unacceptable to most. Even if you can afford the gas and tires, it will get annoying to constantly address these items. For MOST people, it's a stiff car (as it's designed) and will not be all that comfortable on long hauls or heavy highway driving.

Around here, my local dealer had about 5 X3Ms over the past 12 months. 3 of those showed back up at the dealer as used cars with a few thousand miles on them, probably for these reasons.
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An X3 M40i with M mirrors and grill is just a sheep in wolf's clothing.

FFS 73K for an M40i! That's base level X3M territory and with good negotiations one can get a well equipped X3MC under 80K.
Not sure how or why someone would pay 73k for an m40i.. mine was msrp of 63 and change and got it for under 59k. I built an m40i on the site with every single option and it doesn't even hit 70k. Poor guy got scammed lol
I just built one for 71.1K by checking every single option and upgrade. That doesn't include the 895 acquisition fee. I had a 2018 X3 M40i and it was 65.5K MSRP and didn't have every option. So it is possible to spec out over 70K for an M40i, but why?
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An X3 M40i with M mirrors and grill is just a sheep in wolf's clothing.

FFS 73K for an M40i! That's base level X3M territory and with good negotiations one can get a well equipped X3MC under 80K.
Not sure how or why someone would pay 73k for an m40i.. mine was msrp of 63 and change and got it for under 59k. I built an m40i on the site with every single option and it doesn't even hit 70k. Poor guy got scammed lol
I just built one for 71.1K by checking every single option and upgrade. That doesn't include the 895 acquisition fee. I had a 2018 X3 M40i and it was 65.5K MSRP and didn't have every option. So it is possible to spec out over 70K for an M40i, but why?
Yikes that is absolutey crazy
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I went from '19 M40i to '21 X3MC in May. I had the same questions as you.

My M40i had the non-adaptive "M Sport" suspension, with 19" wheels. That ride was more firm than the '21 X3MC. My wife and I find the X3MC ride to be fine.

Yeah the lack of low end torque can be annoying, but you can work around it. For driving around town, the X3MC does not lack, and coming from the M40i you won't feel like you are missing a thing. You just have to be aware of a torque dead zone if you're in 2nd gear and low RPMs.

The power difference between the M40i and the X3M is really noticeable on the highway. The S58 will push you back into the seat at 80 mph whereas the B58 will not. The B58 is good; the S58 is awesome.

The exhaust is better on the X3MC.

Gas mileage - I've driven just over 8000 miles on road trips in the X3MC. My average highway is 22.9 mpg. For the M40i, the long term highway average was 30.5 mpg.
How u get this mpg ?! I got max 15
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How u get this mpg ?! I got max 15
I calculate my road trip mileage at the gas station pump (not the onboard computer), and I take care to only drive on the highway. I don't mix "road trip gas mileage" with any miles driven around town. This let me see what my real-world highway gas mileage is.
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Boy, I never thought BMW would put the M mirrors and tri color stitched steering wheel on anything but a full "M" vehicle. That's just wrong. They just keep diluting the M brand.
But they don't care. It's all about stuffing more money into the stockholders pockets.
yeah, that really annoys me. #1, because that's how i always tell M cars at first glance. #2, b/c M cars should stand out a little bit. now we basically have quad tail pipes and slightly more aggressive front fascia and rear spoiler.
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I went from '19 M40i to '21 X3MC in May. I had the same questions as you.

My M40i had the non-adaptive "M Sport" suspension, with 19" wheels. That ride was more firm than the '21 X3MC. My wife and I find the X3MC ride to be fine.

Yeah the lack of low end torque can be annoying, but you can work around it. For driving around town, the X3MC does not lack, and coming from the M40i you won't feel like you are missing a thing. You just have to be aware of a torque dead zone if you're in 2nd gear and low RPMs.

The power difference between the M40i and the X3M is really noticeable on the highway. The S58 will push you back into the seat at 80 mph whereas the B58 will not. The B58 is good; the S58 is awesome.

The exhaust is better on the X3MC.

Gas mileage - I've driven just over 8000 miles on road trips in the X3MC. My average highway is 22.9 mpg. For the M40i, the long term highway average was 30.5 mpg.
Thanks for this. I am settled on the LCI 2022 X3MC. That gas mileage is just fine; my Jeep barely does better and it's a bore to drive. My ZL-1 gets me around 19 if I am conservative; if I dip into the loud pedal too much it'll go to 13-14 MPG without even trying.

I would just hate to get the M40i and then regret it. I've always wanted an M, and it seems not going for the X3MC would be a mistake in the long run.

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👍 Good choice! The fact you have that fear of regret suggests you made the right call.

I've owned both…glad I made the jump up.
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BINGO....what kind of utter nonsense is going on here saying the M340i is better than 2022 X3 M with Comp?

CAR IS INSANE.

Faster and better handling than my 2017 M3 Competition tuned.

Had a professional motocross racer today in my car driving it and he looked at me and laughed with glee.

He paddle shifted it down the freeway and hit two curvy off-ramps and said "Best SUV on the planet hands down".
tuned m3 better than a x3m? i'll take things that never happened for $500 alex.

i also never said the x3m40i is better than the x3m only that i felt little difference. reading comprehension ftw
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