[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Anthony3DHeli

Looks good, looks really good!!
Just imagine the next 3er G20 with this color and M sport package!!
And similar side vents!!
The interior quality and design seems miles ahead of the last generation!!

"Vents"? One of the reasons we bought a 3er over the 4er GC. No silly gimmicks glued to the front fenders.

Plus it was already LCI'd while the 4er wasn't when we needed one. Still a pile of poop though, so joke's on us I suppose. The G20 will have to be a heck of a lot better to get me to buy another BMW.

[Anthony3DHeli]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

"Vents"? One of the reasons we bought a 3er over the 4er GC. No silly gimmicks glued to the front fenders.

Well, to bad, because even the more classic 5er G30 has side vents. Now imagine the new more sporty 3er!

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Anthony3DHeli

Well, to bad, because even the more classic 5er G30 has side vents. Now imagine the new more sporty 3er!

Reviews have been pretty poor, maybe not Low Point F10 bad, but it's still a poor excuse for a BMW. The G series aren't fixing enough of what the F thoroughly messed up.

[Anthony3DHeli]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Reviews have been pretty poor, maybe not Low Point F10 bad, but it's still a poor excuse for a BMW. The G series aren't fixing enough of what the F thoroughly messed up.

That's interesting! I tested the G30 5er with the B58 engine (540i M sport) and pretty much like it! The steering does not have much of what people call fell, but the brakes felt miles better compared to the F10. Overall, for most costumers, who use this car as a daily, much more comfortable!

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Anthony3DHeli

That's interesting! I tested the G30 5er with the B58 engine (540i M sport) and pretty much like it! The steering does not have much of what people call fell, but the brakes felt miles better compared to the F10. Overall, for most costumers, who use this car as a daily, much more comfortable!

Did you compare it to the ancient A6 or the E? All signs point to the new A6 cleaning the proverbial floor with it. Even the CTS is more appealing to me, if it weren't for the infernal Cue.

Sadly, the wife seems to be leaning SUV, so the M40i X3 might be a better fit than an XC60 or kinda cramped and heavy Cayman. The SQ5 is a little too tame compared to the others. Never thought I'd consider the taxi brand, but a GLC 43 probably warrants a look too. And maybe a lease of a Q4 Stelvio, not gonna buy one, that's for sure.

[Anthony3DHeli]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Did you compare it to the ancient A6 or the E? All signs point to the new A6 cleaning the proverbial floor with it. Even the CTS is more appealing to me, if it weren't for the infernal Cue.

Sadly, the wife seems to be leaning SUV, so the M40i X3 might be a better fit than an XC60 or kinda cramped and heavy Cayman. The SQ5 is a little too tame compared to the others. Never thought I'd consider the taxi brand, but a GLC 43 probably warrants a look too. And maybe a lease of a Q4 Stelvio, not gonna buy one, that's for sure.

Well, Audi A6 is not very popular here in Brazil, not even the ancient one. E class, we have some but Mercedes never truly focus os promoting them here, only C class and GLA's. AlfaRomeo don't sell cars here since before I was born! Haha
But I agree with you, the Q5 looks tame! I have a friend who almost got one last month, but he end up heading for X5 30D F15 (no wonder why! Haha)

[Bimar]

So no silver trim in front bumper and no msport steering...interesting

[InsideMan]

Originally Posted by Midwest 535i

Yup -- I thought the same, but wasn't sure. Maybe angle of pix? Maybe that steering wheel shortage is true? Zero chance I'd plunk $$ down yet without assurance (in writing) from the dealer thats what I'd be getting

Lol ?in writing?. You are so strong.

Dealer doesn?t even know what it?ll look like.

[jaehshim]

had high hopes...but ...ew...
ok im buying sq5

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by X4guy

So no silver trim in front bumper and no msport steering...interesting

I wouldn't rule out the front trim based on this sample size of one - all indications (including the build on the US website) show the trim, so I have to think this was just an early production model off the line for Mgmt to drive. As for the M-Sport steering wheel, that seems a different story at this point.

[Max Well]

Went back to the US website and reviewed the standard specifications. They definitely mention the M Sport steering wheel so may simply be a supply problem. Will be interesting to see how they handle it once they become available (for those of us getting them early). On the other hand, they also mention the 'air curtain and air breather system', and we know the breather is not there, so ... ?

[anotheran]

I hope there's a ///M designation delete option. That M over the cup hold is so tacky.

The interior doesn't look like much of an upgrade over a F30 and this thing is supposed to be in the market for 7 years... BMW is going to have to make a dramatic improvement during LCI (doubtful).

To be honest, i'm still torn between X3 M40i, SQ5, and Macan S

[farns2345]

Originally Posted by anotheran

I hope there's a ///M designation delete option. That M over the cup hold is so tacky.

The interior doesn't look like much of an upgrade over a F30 and this thing is supposed to be in the market for 7 years... BMW is going to have to make a dramatic improvement during LCI (doubtful).

To be honest, i'm still torn between X3 M40i, SQ5, and Macan S

+1 on the delete option.

[nyalpine90]

i got a quote back lease opt $882/month 15k/36 month
56%res
.00151mf
msrp $63k
sale$59k
ny tax included

[KAP8]

Originally Posted by farns2345

+1 on the delete option.

I debadge my BMW's, so there won't be any M on mine.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by anotheran

The interior doesn't look like much of an upgrade over a F30 and this thing is supposed to be in the market for 7 years... BMW is going to have to make a dramatic improvement during LCI (doubtful).

I've had an F30 and F80, and the G01 interior seems quite a bit better/nicer. The F30 is let down by the cheap looking/feeling pre-set buttons and HVAC controls, and that awkward brace (?) next to a front passenger's left knee. The G01 has improved on each.

[nyalpine90]

whats included in Msport package,, $5300

[E90M3JETS]

There are more M badges than in my M3. Hilarious

[sor]

Originally Posted by nyalpine90

whats included in Msport package,, $5300

See the US ordering guide. In summary:

698M style 19" wheel upgrade
sport leather steering wheel
keyless entry
roof rail upgrade
moon roof (or option to delete for $1200 savings)
seat lumbar support
upgraded dash (sensatec wrap/stitching)
aluminum rhombicle trim (or choice of standard trims are still available)
LED headlights
exterior trim/aero kit
satellite radio w/subscription for 1 yr

Some of these are also available in other packages, so you'd have to compare with those to see which one gets you the things you care about for the best price.

[sor]

Originally Posted by Max Well

I wouldn't rule out the front trim based on this sample size of one - all indications (including the build on the US website) show the trim, so I have to think this was just an early production model off the line for Mgmt to drive. As for the M-Sport steering wheel, that seems a different story at this point.

The steering wheel will be a bummer. I'm not certain I care about the bumper trim either way. I can understand people being upset about these things, but honestly I didn't choose the M40i because of a steering wheel or bumper trim. I actually chose it because I really liked the way the X4 M40i drives, and can see this being even better with the B58 and more utility.

[e92miami]

Sorry, these X cars are still with these tinny wheels/tire combinations they look silly. GLC and even the new Volvo XC60 looks better and is priced better. The fact you can't get apple play without spending 2k on Navi tells me BMW is out of touch.

[nyalpine90]

Originally Posted by e92miami

Sorry, these X cars are still with these tinny wheels/tire combinations they look silly. GLC and even the new Volvo XC60 looks better and is priced better. The fact you can't get apple play without spending 2k on Navi tells me BMW is out of touch.

the choices are there, 19,20,21"
what do you want? 22" 24" wheels thats just tacky