Lost Key

dan321 · 03-25-2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Diaolos

Which dealer? I got quoted 575$ plus programming plus tax. So give or take 750$. I find this crazy. Plus I asked for the security of the car. They said will they can deactivate the list key from the system but of course this is another fee.

It is expensive but you are not just replacing a lost key, you have to reprogram the locks or your lost key could still be used.

Just for comparison what do you think it would cost if you car had plain old mechanical locks... you would have to replace all the mechanical locks in the car to insure its security including, maybe, one in the steering column. My guess to do that would cost in the neighborhood of $750.

Still it seems like the dealer you bought it from should cut you a break on the price...

Qsilver7 · 03-25-2019, 03:34 PM

Prior to the new generation of keys (key card, display key, etc)...BMW could disable a key since it had a specific key nbr assigned to it in the EWS control module. The newer keys/remotes that came with the F series BMWs were similar in that only two remote fobs could be programmed to the car at one time (if you had comfort access). So if you lost one, and purchased a replacement...when they code the replacement to the car...along with having the remaining key...the lost key would be removed from the CAS module.

I haven't looked into the G series yet...but I bet the same thing can be done. The lost key can probably be disabled...and will automatically be disabled if you replace it with a new one that gets programmed to the vehicle.

EDIT: just looked...and yep...the lost key can be "blocked"...click this link for where the information below was captured. SEE the text highlighted in yellow at the very bottom: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...ystem/KVhi3jaX

G01Mike · 03-25-2019, 03:48 PM

Try calling a mobile key tech in your area....most of the dealers in my area use this method too since it is cheaper for them. Normally if you get the fob they can program your new fob along with your remaining fob to the car and it should disable the lost key from working. Also usually a lot cheaper if you can find someone who has the BMW coding.

Diaolos · 03-25-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by G01Mike

Try calling a mobile key tech in your area....most of the dealers in my area use this method too since it is cheaper for them. Normally if you get the fob they can program your new fob along with your remaining fob to the car and it should disable the lost key from working. Also usually a lot cheaper if you can find someone who has the BMW coding.

I called two places that advertised this service. Both said that they can only code up to the 2017 models. They said they would be 15%-25% cheaper than the dealer

Dave340 · 03-25-2019, 04:33 PM

I had to obtain key from the dealer back in March 2017 for a 2016 340 with comfort access.

66 12 9 312 544: B1 - Radio Remote Control -- $304.98
51 21 7 268 293: B1RR - Integrated Key -- $52.75
Labor $73.00
Total: $430.73 USD

Diaolos · 03-25-2019, 04:35 PM

Most likely cheaper in the USA but all dealers want you to show up with ID and proof of ownership as should be the case.

BMWZ4 · 03-25-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaolos

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Originally Posted by BMWZ4

I lost one once...nearly $400 with programming

Which dealer? I got quoted 575$ plus programming plus tax. So give or take 750$. I find this crazy. Plus I asked for the security of the car. They said will they can deactivate the list key from the system but of course this is another fee.

$750? It's highway robbery even if it's CAD...

How about getting a Display key outright as a post-sales option? Would that be cheaper? I heard someone at a US dealer mentioned $300 USD plus labor, but that was several months ago. Two hours of labor should still be less than $400 I guess?

By the way, have you tried retracing back the walk you did when you lost the key? The probability of success is low, but for the sake of $750, maybe worth a try? How about rechecking all pockets of your coats and pants?

Unfortunately the display key is a grand + programming (CAD). I asked my advisor what the replacement cost would be at time of the order

titomi · 03-25-2019, 05:24 PM

I wouldn't use the key if returned from someone unknown (or even from a neighbour for that matter). You never know who (between the time you lost it a trustworthy neighbour) had it and what he had done. New one only for me. I feel sorry for you OP. I locked myself from apartment a had to pay almost 300€ (not for the lock, but for the glass and labor. yeah.. We have a glass in the front door.. Rented apartment, all neighbours have the same, probably some regulations)

Diaolos · 03-25-2019, 07:21 PM

Does anyone know if I could use a key from a 2018 X3? Found someone selling one. Can it be un programmed and reprogrammed?

chassis · 03-25-2019, 07:26 PM

I needed a second fob for an M-B. Cost around $350 including programming, and deactivation of the missing fob. I needed to produce my photo ID and the vehicle title. This was six months ago, in the US midwest.

Diaolos · 03-25-2019, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaolos

Does anyone know if I could use a key from a 2018 X3? Found someone selling one. Can it be un programmed and reprogrammed?

If anyone know the answer to this please let me know.

Diaolos · 03-25-2019, 09:34 PM

So found a listing on eBay. Some guy totalled his 2018 X3 and was selling his unused spare. I bought it for 48$ USD. I have a friend who is a mechanic and a BMW enthousiaste. He said that he has a friend that can program the key to my car and remove the lost one for 200$. Mentioned a dealer will not do the work because they want you to buy the entire key from them. So if this works it will cost me about 300$. Mind you it will be his metal key part but I don't care much for that now and can always order just the cut metal key at a later date. Sure beets the 850$ the dealer wanted.

Will let everyone know how it turned out n

hgupta13 · 05-05-2019, 03:57 PM

I lost one of my keys recently and understand the trouble you going through. Looks like there are no easy options.

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Qsilver7 Major General 4427 Rep 7,470 Posts Drives: F06 650ix GC / F15 X5 50i Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Indiana, USA iTrader: (0)	Prior to the new generation of keys (key card, display key, etc)...BMW could disable a key since it had a specific key nbr assigned to it in the EWS control module. The newer keys/remotes that came with the F series BMWs were similar in that only two remote fobs could be programmed to the car at one time (if you had comfort access). So if you lost one, and purchased a replacement...when they code the replacement to the car...along with having the remaining key...the lost key would be removed from the CAS module. I haven't looked into the G series yet...but I bet the same thing can be done. The lost key can probably be disabled...and will automatically be disabled if you replace it with a new one that gets programmed to the vehicle. EDIT: just looked...and yep...the lost key can be "blocked"...click this link for where the information below was captured. SEE the text highlighted in yellow at the very bottom: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...ystem/KVhi3jaX Attached Images __________________ 2015 F06 650ix Gran Coupe`(Moonstone/Cohiba Brown)\| 2014 F15 X5 50i MSport (Space Gray/Mocha) Become a BMW CCA member! Click HERE to join and feel free to use my BMW CCA member #191509 as a referral. Last edited by Qsilver7; 03-25-2019 at 03:45 PM..
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G01Mike Enlisted Member 5 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 2019 X3 M40i Phytonic Blue Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	Try calling a mobile key tech in your area....most of the dealers in my area use this method too since it is cheaper for them. Normally if you get the fob they can program your new fob along with your remaining fob to the car and it should disable the lost key from working. Also usually a lot cheaper if you can find someone who has the BMW coding.
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Diaolos Private First Class 46 Rep 188 Posts Drives: 2019 X3 xDrive 30i Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Brossard Quebec iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 X3 xDrive 30i [0.00]	So found a listing on eBay. Some guy totalled his 2018 X3 and was selling his unused spare. I bought it for 48$ USD. I have a friend who is a mechanic and a BMW enthousiaste. He said that he has a friend that can program the key to my car and remove the lost one for 200$. Mentioned a dealer will not do the work because they want you to buy the entire key from them. So if this works it will cost me about 300$. Mind you it will be his metal key part but I don't care much for that now and can always order just the cut metal key at a later date. Sure beets the 850$ the dealer wanted. Will let everyone know how it turned out n
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