[thepianist1]

Since BMW certified collision repair quoted me $1500 to repaint the entire door/quarter panel/spot on bumper for three small deep scratches, I went to an indie shop to do a $200 touch up. As expected the alpine white they mixed did not match, even though the car is only 2 years old, but I figured a full repaint of a quarter of the car, since I intend to sell the BMW private party next year, but I feel cost of the repaint won't help the devaluation in resale. Since other person at fault insurance already recorded on carfax car value went down over $4k. What do you guys think, repaint or not?

[M40i4me]

I am sorry but that is not a $200 repair! Anyway If it were me I would pay the money and fix it properly as well as get my money back for the crap job they did!

[thepianist1]

Originally Posted by M40i4me

I am sorry but that is not a $200 repair! Anyway If it were me I would pay the money and fix it properly as well as get my money back for the crap job they did!

Yea thank goodness i did not let this shop repaint the whole panel. The touch up they put already has wrinkles in the paint I don’t think that’s supposed to happen

If repaint the whole panel the entire door color will be entirely off I don’t want that, far greater

[gphin]

If you go to the right paint shop, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference. It appears this shop is not the one to do a repaint. Ask your local BMW dealer who they use.

[thepianist1]

Back to the question, is it worth doing now if I am going to sell it in short time or have the buyer deal with it how they please?

[bocabimmer]

Short answer: depends on your buyer

It’s already on your carfax meaning you’ve pocketed the money from the at fault insurance and the car has a depreciation hit. Some buyers may appreciate seeing the actual damage and know a place they trust to get it fixed. Others may find “seeing” the damage offputting and would rather never know the wiser. In either case, you’re not saving money and short of being deceptive about the fact it was in a crash, there’s no avenue in which you come out ahead.

I’d knock the repair price off my asking price as a buyer. And you certainly can’t charge me more for having repaired it.

[alex2364]

Are you sure this $200 repair wasn’t done by yourself? What happened to going to a body shop and getting worse results? https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1986045

[gphin]

Originally Posted by thepianist1

Back to the question, is it worth doing now if I am going to sell it in short time or have the buyer deal with it how they please?

Short answer...get it professionally painted. Your not selling a Kia. No BMW buyer wants a vehicle looking like that unless you are willing to take a big hit in price. And even then it will be difficult finding the right buyer.

edit: you should also file a diminished value claim with the other person's insurance

[thepianist1]

Originally Posted by alex2364

Are you sure this $200 repair wasn’t done by yourself? What happened to going to a body shop and getting worse results? https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1986045

Initial post was me doing the touchup with OEM alpine white touch up brush from dealer. I couldnt get an even polish so I brought into this shop my friend recommended. The current post is after the shop removed what I did, repainted with their own paint, and polished the area I previously sanded down.

I hadnt done the full repaint option as I am still trying to figure out diminished value, resale value, all these stuff beforehand

[thepianist1]

Originally Posted by gphin

Short answer...get it professionally painted. Your not selling a Kia. No BMW buyer wants a vehicle looking like that unless you are willing to take a big hit in price. And even then it will be difficult finding the right buyer.

edit: you should also file a diminished value claim with the other person's insurance

I will try filing a diminished value. The other person has state farm. But I have to get an appraisal for it. All what I have now are the itemized shop quotes.

[bouchy]

1. "Oh, a dent masked with paint corrector! I demand a huge discount!"
2. "Oh look, my pro thickness gauge from Ali showed that your bodywork is re-painted - therefore you had an accident! I demand a huge discount!"
Sorry to be sarcastic, but this is a common state (at least in my country). 2nd - 5th owners demand mint bodywork optics, but also prices less than 1/5th of a new car.
When I avoided both, i.e. [correction of] door rash (from disrespecful people) and poor paint quality from factory, I couldn't sell otherwise "perfect car" - perfect for 16 years of age. What could I do? Repaint a car that has been sold for $1000 at a garage (ofc unofficial) for more than $3000? And the time with paint gun + material would make the least of that sum.

If repaint the whole panel the entire door color will be entirely off I don’t want that, far greater

Not entirely true - very good painters spray also other parts to create a transition. Bad official dealerships don't do that. So yes, I can see that the "white" is not as "white". I have the rearl effect, basically as bad to repaint as the metallic paint.

[Gritty]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

Short answer: depends on your buyer

It’s already on your carfax meaning you’ve pocketed the money from the at fault insurance and the car has a depreciation hit. Some buyers may appreciate seeing the actual damage and know a place they trust to get it fixed. Others may find “seeing” the damage offputting and would rather never know the wiser. In either case, you’re not saving money and short of being deceptive about the fact it was in a crash, there’s no avenue in which you come out ahead.

I’d knock the repair price off my asking price as a buyer. And you certainly can’t charge me more for having repaired it.

I sold my wife's car a few years ago with similar damage and it sold rather quickly as it was $1,500 below market pricing. Many people will believe they can find a shop to fix that correctly for less than $1,500

Go to your BMW dealer and ask them to give you a price to sell them the car and use that quote for diminished value.

A dealer would repaint that damage before they sell because they have access to a repair shop that will fix it for $350

Good luck

[thepianist1]

Originally Posted by Gritty

I sold my wife's car a few years ago with similar damage and it sold rather quickly as it was $1,500 below market pricing. Many people will believe they can find a shop to fix that correctly for less than $1,500

Go to your BMW dealer and ask them to give you a price to sell them the car and use that quote for diminished value.

A dealer would repaint that damage before they sell because they have access to a repair shop that will fix it for $350

Good luck

Can I ask authorized BMW body shops I dont want to go through insurance and just do cash? Another shop quoted me $650 cash for full repaint. Obviously to save $850 I rather not go through insurance since the other person insurance already paid me $900. Do I just email the other insurance agent State Farm “hey you only paid me for repair but no diminished value here is estimate intrinsic value”

[nyalpine90]

You need a grinder to smoothen that touch up crappy job

[gphin]

Originally Posted by thepianist1

Can I ask authorized BMW body shops I dont want to go through insurance and just do cash? Another shop quoted me $650 cash for full repaint. Obviously to save $850 I rather not go through insurance since the other person insurance already paid me $900. Do I just email the other insurance agent State Farm “hey you only paid me for repair but no diminished value here is estimate intrinsic value”

Why did they pay you only $900 when your original post had a $1500 repair quote? Is the $650 cash quote from a BMW authorized vendor? If not, you are taking a chance. Bottom line, I'd call your insurance agent and get direction from him how to proceed regarding your repair and your diminished value claim. You should not be calling the other insurance company directly. That's why you have your own insurance and an agent to handle your claim.

[COM40]

Not worth fixing, you've probably already lost $10-15k in depreciation. Paying $1500 to fix that paint job is practically guaranteed to have a negative ROI.

Maybe it looks much worse in person though...

[thepianist1]

Originally Posted by COM40

Not worth fixing, you've probably already lost $10-15k in depreciation. Paying $1500 to fix that paint job is practically guaranteed to have a negative ROI.

Maybe it looks much worse in person though...

$650 is from a BMW authorized CCRC without going the official insurance route, which still involves removing the two panels, repainting them and blending. But they warned me that over time the full repaint might no longer match factory coat, and very few buyers will believe from a full repaint that the damage was small. At least now, the damage is visibly known, and the sheen of the touch up matches the surrounding good factory paint. I could just apply a few layers of alpine white touch up of base coat and clear coat just to hide the "wrinkles" in the current touch up without affecting the sheen polish, at least that color matches better than this mix..

Original resale value at current mileage was $37k before the incident. Right now it looks like $31k with the not-at-fault accident reported. I don't know how getting paid the DV will work since I have to prove that the X3 lost value "only due to the" which is very difficult to prove.

[gphin]

Originally Posted by thepianist1

$650 is from a BMW authorized CCRC without going the official insurance route, which still involves removing the two panels, repainting them and blending. But they warned me that over time the full repaint might no longer match factory coat, and very few buyers will believe from a full repaint that the damage was small. At least now, the damage is visibly known, and the sheen of the touch up matches the surrounding good factory paint. I could just apply a few layers of alpine white touch up of base coat and clear coat just to hide the "wrinkles" in the current touch up without affecting the sheen polish, at least that color matches better than this mix..

Original resale value at current mileage was $37k before the incident. Right now it looks like $31k with the not-at-fault accident reported. I don't know how getting paid the DV will work since I have to prove that the X3 lost value "only due to the" which is very difficult to prove.

I've had several cars repainted over the years, some minor, some major. They were done by my manufacturer and insurance company approved reputable paint shops. One vehicle I kept for 15+ years and the paint still looked identical to the original. A good paint shop will guarantee their work to look the same over time. There should be no need for a full repaint. Here's an article how to file a diminished value claim in your state. I still recommend getting the work done as a new buyer might not even care it was hit if they see the panel and can't tell any work was done.

https://www.dvcheck.com/diminished-value-claim/virginia

[thepianist1]

Originally Posted by gphin

I've had several cars repainted over the years, some minor, some major. They were done by my manufacturer and insurance company approved reputable paint shops. One vehicle I kept for 15+ years and the paint still looked identical to the original. A good paint shop will guarantee their work to look the same over time. There should be no need for a full repaint. Here's an article how to file a diminished value claim in your state. I still recommend getting the work done as a new buyer might not even care it was hit if they see the panel and can't tell any work was done.

https://www.dvcheck.com/diminished-value-claim/virginia

So if I get approved for a diminished value claim, the other party insurance sends me a check? I don’t have to go through court system headaches?

[thepianist1]

Originally Posted by gphin

I've had several cars repainted over the years, some minor, some major. They were done by my manufacturer and insurance company approved reputable paint shops. One vehicle I kept for 15+ years and the paint still looked identical to the original. A good paint shop will guarantee their work to look the same over time. There should be no need for a full repaint. Here's an article how to file a diminished value claim in your state. I still recommend getting the work done as a new buyer might not even care it was hit if they see the panel and can't tell any work was done.

https://www.dvcheck.com/diminished-value-claim/virginia

By full repaint I meant repaint of the entire two panels, not the entire car sorry, and that overtime will fade differently than the factory paint

[gphin]

Again, any high quality paint work should come with a guarantee against chipping, fading etc. The body shop I have used for many years is authorized by my insurance and coincidentally owned by a friend of mine for over 30 years. A quality paint job should not "fade" over time. My recommendation is still take your vehicle to an authorized insurance shop that will give you are written guarantee for the two panels.

[bocabimmer]

Good quality paint won’t look different for a long, long time. It would be stupid to leave that abomination of a fix for the sake of something that won’t be apparent for maybe 10+ years.

Take photos of the damage now, fix the panel. If the seller ever questions the severity of the accident you have photographed evidence of what was fixed to assuage their fears.