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      03-07-2020, 08:09 PM   #45
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That Alfa bit the pavement hard at launch. Impressed 👍🏼
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How did you come up with this thesis, Doug?
You like fast cars that make no sound

Ok, seriously, the Alfa crushed the BMW from a street race perspective and sounded amazing while doing it.

I'm as much of a BMW fan as the next guy, but to argue "yea, my car is faster at the end of the quarter" or "if I could just figure out how to launch this thing I would beat you" is just silly.

And no, I'm not buying either
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but to argue "yea, my car is faster at the end of the quarter" or "if I could just figure out how to launch this thing I would beat you" is just silly.
Add to the fact that people are arguing about SUV's of all things
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Add to the fact that your arguing about SUV's of all things
Josh, both these SUVs are faster than your awesomesauce CLS53
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Add to the fact that your arguing about SUV's of all things
Josh, both these SUVs are faster than your awesomesauce CLS53
And I couldn't care less. 0-60 times aren't why I buy cars.
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You like fast cars that make no sound

Ok, seriously, the Alfa crushed the BMW from a street race perspective and sounded amazing while doing it.

I'm as much of a BMW fan as the next guy, but to argue "yea, my car is faster at the end of the quarter" or "if I could just figure out how to launch this thing I would beat you" is just silly.

And no, I'm not buying either
Doug, I don’t understand your argumentation. This is not a weird illegal street race (that would never happen in this form), this is a 1/4 mile drag race and BMW wins. End of the story. For your information, BMW is also faster on the race circuit (better skidpad):



BMW is also not hard to launch. Just read the manual and save the required launch settings under M1 or M2. To launch, push the button, press the brake pedal, press the gas pedal, build the boost, release the brake pedal. Done.
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The video piece so well done and to the point, unlike many others that have 20 minutes of blah blah blah. Impressed with BMW. Like an underdog it worked hard and came out as a winner, actually by a lot.
P.s. would a video where BMW looses be posted here?
There was one posted where the X3 M lost to an F-Pace SVR.
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So I'm wondering why are these nobs drag racing SUVs? Do people buy an suv to go fast in a straight line? Wouldn't a road course comparison be a far better test? I care more about how my car drives, not how fast it gets off the line. Just sayn.
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So I'm wondering why are these nobs drag racing SUVs? Do people buy an suv to go fast in a straight line? Wouldn't a road course comparison be a far better test? I care more about how my car drives, not how fast it gets off the line. Just sayn.
I've never dragged raced anyone on the street nor have I ever seen anyone doing it either...it's all about bar room bragging rights and has nothing to do with the real world.
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So I'm wondering why are these nobs drag racing SUVs? Do people buy an suv to go fast in a straight line? Wouldn't a road course comparison be a far better test? I care more about how my car drives, not how fast it gets off the line. Just sayn.
it is because there are many people on youtube who are interested to see which one is quicker. Its more exciting for fans and good for revenue.
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Add to the fact that your arguing about SUV's of all things
The internet is a funny place. I'm not sure I'm arguing (in fact, I think I pointed out that arguing was silly), yet, you say I am. Ok


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Doug, I don’t understand your argumentation. This is not a weird illegal street race (that would never happen in this form), this is a 1/4 mile drag race and BMW wins. End of the story. For your information, BMW is also faster on the race circuit (better skidpad):
Maybe? Those videos are almost a year apart. I would think that to have a comparison that you would run them one after each other - same temp, same day, etc.

Look, I'm just saying that Alfa popped off the line and sounded amazing - especially as it put distance on the X3. I think that as BMW fan boys (myself included!) we should be able to agree on that. If we can't... well then...

I do personally think the Alfa is a kind of ugly. I sort of like the X4, but dammit, the designers of the X2/X4/X6 have apparently forgotten the bumper and that just looks weird!
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Add to the fact that your arguing about SUV's of all things
The internet is a funny place. I'm not sure I'm arguing (in fact, I think I pointed out that arguing was silly), yet, you say I am. Ok
Wasn't referring to you but your quote about how people arguing over 0-60 times was silly adding to the fact that saying arguing over SUV 0-60 times is even sillier, I should have worded it better.
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I have to admit I enjoy watching the CarWow drag race videos even if I don't drag race. Most of us would admit that even if they don't drag race or track their vehicles it's still brings satisfaction knowing their vehicle of choice is faster than it's competition. At the end of the day when you are spending $$$ on vehicles there is some expectation that it's performance will be amongst best in class.
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I have to admit I enjoy watching the CarWow drag race videos even if I don't drag race. Most of us would admit that even if they don't drag race or track their vehicles it's still brings satisfaction knowing their vehicle of choice is faster than it's competition. At the end of the day when you are spending $$$ on vehicles there is some expectation that it's performance will be amongst best in class.
Absolutely correct. What is the point of paying a premium price for a M/AMG/RS badge, if you don’t care about the performance? Regarding drag races, it’s a purely American thing. We have specialized drag strips where you can go with your friends and have fun. Nobody is there to win the “Drag Racing World Cup”, but it’s really fun to test different mods and settings and see their effect on your times.
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Anyone know why I can never get audio on my iPhone when it comes to videos embedded on this forum? It's REALLY f-ing annoying
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Anyone know why I can never get audio on my iPhone when it comes to videos embedded on this forum? It's REALLY f-ing annoying
Phone can't be on vibrate.
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I've never dragged raced anyone on the street nor have I ever seen anyone doing it either...it's all about bar room bragging rights and has nothing to do with the real world.
Then you must be not coming out of the house.
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Then you must be not coming out of the house.
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So I'm wondering why are these nobs drag racing SUVs? Do people buy an suv to go fast in a straight line? Wouldn't a road course comparison be a far better test? I care more about how my car drives, not how fast it gets off the line. Just sayn.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJQRe7XYDPHoR96UVM_ep5Q

Yes, yes people do cause ... versatility.

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It seems like the X3M has that notorious delayed launch control with low boost. My 340i was the same i always had to let go of the brake pedal on the second yellow of the drag strip light.
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I don't think the X4M driver held LC long enough. Launch looked poor. Surprising that it reeled in the Alfa.
Most of these drag-racing automotive journalists are simply too lazy to grab the manual and read the launch control instructions. It literally takes 30 seconds. Here is an (admittedly extreme) example:

To this day I do not understand who gives these guys cars.
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