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      08-13-2022, 09:27 PM   #1
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Missing Lumbar Support for 2023

Would anyone walk away from a X3 M40i if it had missing "driver" lumbar support.

We have so far a confirmation from "1" people who just got their 2023 with no driver lumbar support.

Curious how others feel about this as our car is $65k+,
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      08-13-2022, 09:28 PM   #2
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I think it sucks but to be honest I've never used it... i suppose if u had back issues.
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      08-13-2022, 09:36 PM   #3
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I think it sucks but to be honest I've never used it... i suppose if u had back issues.
Not major issues. Just my prior M40i had it. My audis had it.

I just feel stupid paying $72k for a vehicle and not have "comfort".
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If this is indeed true, BMW Genius team and dealers were never made aware that BMW was taking the feature off - even though we suspected it based on missing option from our builds. If anyone from genius team or SA had told me that driver lumbar is missing, I would have "upgraded" to a seat that had them. How am I supposed to know before committing to $80K car if my back will hurt 3 weeks later because of no lumbar.
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      08-13-2022, 09:40 PM   #5
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I emailed the two GM's at my dealer will see what they say. I want the car "but" im tired of this game.
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      08-13-2022, 10:03 PM   #6
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I emailed the two GM's at my dealer will see what they say. I want the car "but" im tired of this game.
It’s unprofessional and it makes the brand look bad to have features randomly missing when the website says they will be included.

The BMW website continues to list both 1) driver lumbar support and 2) wifi hotspot as *standard* features on the M40i (wifi hotspot is also listed as standard on the lower X3 trims).

If they list a feature as standard, especially one as basic as power lumbar, then I don’t think it’s acceptable to exclude it without some kind of advanced warning. And no, it’s not enough to issue a blanket “supply chain issues are bad” warning on the website.
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      08-13-2022, 10:04 PM   #7
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It’s unprofessional and it makes the brand look bad to have features randomly missing when the website says they will be included.

The BMW website continues to list both 1) driver lumbar support and 2) wifi hotspot as *standard* features on the M40i (wifi hotspot is also listed as standard on the lower X3 trims).

If they list a feature as standard, especially one as basic as power lumbar, then I don’t think it’s acceptable to exclude it without some kind of advanced warning. And no, it’s not enough to issue a blanket “supply chain issues are bad” warning on the website.


I am hoping the person in the forum who said there's 2023 didnt have it is mistaken or overlooked it.
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My 23 XDrive 30i has it listed as standard, so I assume I will have it. I don’t understand why the M40i would not have it though…makes no sense to me.
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      08-13-2022, 10:09 PM   #9
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My 23 XDrive 30i has it listed as standard, so I assume I will have it. I don’t understand why the M40i would not have it though…makes no sense to me.
So you already have your 2023 30i?
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To answer your question though, no I would not walk away. Seems like all comparable brands are having these issues. We were looking at an SQ5 that had no blind spot monitoring…
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So you already have your 2023 30i?
I do not - pickup is Tuesday. I’m just thinking that since it’s listed as standard and wasn’t listed for the M40i (I think), that it will be there.
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I do not - pickup is Tuesday. I’m just thinking that since it’s listed as standard and wasn’t listed for the M40i (I think), that it will be there.
Curious to hear if yours is there. Just there is a lot of conflicting info right now.
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Curious to hear if yours is there. Just there is a lot of conflicting info right now.
I will update right away! Still listed on the BMW site as you build a new one.
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      08-13-2022, 10:18 PM   #14
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I will update right away! Still listed on the BMW site as you build a new one.
I just know BMW website is not current. Just like how park assist package is not listed on configurator including drive recorder.
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To be fair there is no confirmation it is indeed driver seat lumbar, the OP in the Week 32 thread just stated "lumbar". Driver-side lumbar is still referenced as standard in the June '23 order guide.
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To be fair there is no confirmation it is indeed driver seat lumbar, the OP in the Week 32 thread just stated "lumbar". Driver-side lumbar is still referenced as standard in the June '23 order guide.
Agreed. Better to wait and get confirmation from all the folks who are getting their deliveries early next week. It was also not clear if poster in Week 32 thread had Sensatec, leather or vented seats and that can make a difference.
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      08-14-2022, 08:42 AM   #17
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Someone posted this pic on the week 32 thread of their 2023.

So they have sensatec curious if the "free" seats dont have it but the upgraded leather seats "come" with lumbar.

Looks like we need someone to share a picture of their 2023 with "leather" seats to see what the button controls look like.
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It is included on both front seats on my M40i collected on Saturday - EU version of course.
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      08-14-2022, 09:57 AM   #19
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It is included on both front seats on my M40i collected on Saturday - EU version of course.
Which seats do you have? I believe ventilated seats and M Sport seats come with lumbar on both sides.
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Which seats do you have? I believe ventilated seats and M Sport seats come with lumbar on both sides.
M sport seats
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Where do UK cars come from SA or USA?
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I think the lack of the button is equally as disturbing. In the past I've ordered options just so as not to have a blank plastic space there :-)

However, yes the fact it's not there on the passenger side is bad but slightly take it. If ny driver's seat were missing it I'd probably not have it unless they could fix it. That said - what other option if others are doing the same :-/
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