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      07-20-2022, 09:47 PM   #89
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I think the sales rep meant a few posts up about curved screen the dash is curved screen like it is in 2022.

The nav section screen is the same as on 2022 thats flat screen.
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I think the sales rep meant a few posts up about curved screen the dash is curved screen like it is in 2022.

The nav section screen is the same as on 2022 thats flat screen.
So it’s not any different?
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      07-20-2022, 11:00 PM   #91
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What is the first delivery week for these vehicles? 31?
That's the first build week anyway. Delivery would probably be mid august.
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Haha every time I've ever bought a car, I could tell the sales person something about the car they didn't know. I like to study & know as much as I can about the car before I buy.
I've only ordered my BMW's though.
All car salesmen are definitely not created equally. The enthusiast customer likely knows more than a good portion of them about the cars. The average customer certainly doesn't, but those of us that spend too much time on car forums likely do as we perseverate over every bit of minutia about the cars that we are looking for especially since we have nothing else to do while we are waiting for them to show up. "Oh look, he has a 23 model because he has black valve stem caps instead of the silver ones that were on the 22s and the kidney grilles have 25 slats per grille instead of the old 24“.
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      07-20-2022, 11:28 PM   #93
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Haha every time I've ever bought a car, I could tell the sales person something about the car they didn't know. I like to study & know as much as I can about the car before I buy.
I've only ordered my BMW's though.
All car salesmen are definitely not created equally. The enthusiast customer likely knows more than a good portion of them about the cars. The average customer certainly doesn't, but those of us that spend too much time on car forums likely do as we perseverate over every bit of minutia about the cars that we are looking for especially since we have nothing else to do while we are waiting for them to show up. "Oh look, he has a 23 model because he has black valve stem caps instead of the silver ones that were on the 22s and the kidney grilles have 25 slats per grille instead of the old 24“.
So true! I'm just a car girl. Always have been.
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      07-21-2022, 10:30 AM   #94
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For the F12 trick, does anyone know how to set the screen to capture that data? I've found about everything except that string. Been educational so far though. And somewhat scary in that it's a reminder of how much code is involved in internet exchanges.
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For the F12 trick, does anyone know how to set the screen to capture that data? I've found about everything except that string. Been educational so far though. And somewhat scary in that it's a reminder of how much code is involved in internet exchanges.
Here's a good overview: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1881808&page=4

Now here's what I've done which could be a trigger to those worried about options, I'm going with the idea that BMW isn't shipping cars without standard features or at least will have some plan to address later (mostly meaning car play). And if anyone asks yes I know this is overkill and I'm being super anal. But hey you have to do something while waiting for the status to change right?

In one of the line items there is a super long line of code that has things like build status (mine is still in 111) and then through this line of code is a list of all the options and the option numbers.

I was able to copy this entire line and paste it in Excel, then I copied just the options and used the paste special transpose function in excel to get everything in a column. From here I was able to remove the leading zero on a few items (0ZDY for example) and then I can use these to check what's included by referencing the pricing guide and some google searching on some unknown packages. I was able to convert the pricing guide from PDF to Excel, clean up a little formatting, and then use Xlookup to get the product names to check and then look up some that didn't return results.

The only two items I noted as missing was ZAX Apple CarPlay and 316 Power Tailgate. Again, I am going to go with the assumption that BMW is not going to include these on a $60K+ vehicle. It could also be that these could be included in additional packages or since my status is still order received it might not be fully updated.
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Here's a good overview: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1881808&page=4

Now here's what I've done which could be a trigger to those worried about options, I'm going with the idea that BMW isn't shipping cars without standard features or at least will have some plan to address later (mostly meaning car play). And if anyone asks yes I know this is overkill and I'm being super anal. But hey you have to do something while waiting for the status to change right?

In one of the line items there is a super long line of code that has things like build status (mine is still in 111) and then through this line of code is a list of all the options and the option numbers.

I was able to copy this entire line and paste it in Excel, then I copied just the options and used the paste special transpose function in excel to get everything in a column. From here I was able to remove the leading zero on a few items (0ZDY for example) and then I can use these to check what's included by referencing the pricing guide and some google searching on some unknown packages. I was able to convert the pricing guide from PDF to Excel, clean up a little formatting, and then use Xlookup to get the product names to check and then look up some that didn't return results.

The only two items I noted as missing was ZAX Apple CarPlay and 316 Power Tailgate. Again, I am going to go with the assumption that BMW is not going to include these on a $60K+ vehicle. It could also be that these could be included in additional packages or since my status is still order received it might not be fully updated.
This off my build details...
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      07-21-2022, 01:02 PM   #97
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This off my build details...
Interesting, I'm not seeing it on mine:
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      07-21-2022, 01:18 PM   #98
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Guys...
I don't see ZAX, ZN1, ZN3, ZN4 in my F12 list...

Am I getting a special strip down version?...

Seriously... We don't know what will be deleted until it goes into production. Right now I have trunk kick opener deleted and the digital key. I'm fine with both being removed. Especially, since there some reports of the tailgate opening on its own in the closed garage.
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      07-21-2022, 01:25 PM   #99
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Here's a good overview: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1881808&page=4

Now here's what I've done which could be a trigger to those worried about options, I'm going with the idea that BMW isn't shipping cars without standard features or at least will have some plan to address later (mostly meaning car play). And if anyone asks yes I know this is overkill and I'm being super anal. But hey you have to do something while waiting for the status to change right?

In one of the line items there is a super long line of code that has things like build status (mine is still in 111) and then through this line of code is a list of all the options and the option numbers.

I was able to copy this entire line and paste it in Excel, then I copied just the options and used the paste special transpose function in excel to get everything in a column. From here I was able to remove the leading zero on a few items (0ZDY for example) and then I can use these to check what's included by referencing the pricing guide and some google searching on some unknown packages. I was able to convert the pricing guide from PDF to Excel, clean up a little formatting, and then use Xlookup to get the product names to check and then look up some that didn't return results.

The only two items I noted as missing was ZAX Apple CarPlay and 316 Power Tailgate. Again, I am going to go with the assumption that BMW is not going to include these on a $60K+ vehicle. It could also be that these could be included in additional packages or since my status is still order received it might not be fully updated.
There's no way BMW will omit Apple Carplay, everyone relax . ZAX is also omitted on my 2022 build, but it shows in the standard features.
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There's no way BMW will omit Apple Carplay, everyone relax . ZAX is also omitted on my 2022 build, but it shows in the standard features.
Just to be safe I am going to double up on the tinfoil for my hat...
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There's no way BMW will omit Apple Carplay, everyone relax . ZAX is also omitted on my 2022 build, but it shows in the standard features.
Do you see 6CP if not ZAX? Carplay comes under two different option codes:

6CP Apple CarPlay Compatibility
ZAX Apple CarPlay and Android Auto Compatibility

I see 6CP on my friend's 2022 build, so maybe ZAX is new to 2023
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      07-21-2022, 03:17 PM   #102
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I just added the Drive Recorder to my build. And Wireless Charging/Digital Key is available again...so check with your CA if you want it!
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      07-21-2022, 03:18 PM   #103
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Do you see 6CP if not ZAX? Carplay comes under two different option codes:

6CP Apple CarPlay Compatibility
ZAX Apple CarPlay and Android Auto Compatibility

I see 6CP on my friend's 2022 build, so maybe ZAX is new to 2023
I don't have 6CP, nor do I have ZAX.
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Just to be safe I am going to double up on the tinfoil for my hat...
Send me any extra. Tinfoil is good.
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Interesting, I'm not seeing it on mine:
Mine doesn't even show Power Front Seats...... So....... I'm assuming the list just isn't complete.
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Here's a good overview: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1881808&page=4

Now here's what... It could also be that these could be included in additional packages or since my status is still order received it might not be fully updated.
I appreciate this. I'm going to give it a shot later tonight.
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I appreciate this. I'm going to give it a shot later tonight.
Careful, it's a rabbit hole...just wanted to warn you!
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      07-21-2022, 05:12 PM   #108
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Do you see 6CP if not ZAX? Carplay comes under two different option codes:

6CP Apple CarPlay Compatibility
ZAX Apple CarPlay and Android Auto Compatibility

I see 6CP on my friend's 2022 build, so maybe ZAX is new to 2023
Oh yea I got 6CP. Anyone know the code for driver bolster width adjustment? I specced cognac vernasca on my 2022 so I should have driver bolster width adjustment right? It shows passenger width adjustment delete on my VIR.
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Having learned the F12 Captain Video Decoder Ring trick, here's all the information in my build string.

ZDY Driving Assistance Professional
ZHO Shadowline
ZN1 Active Blind Spot
ZN3 Frontal Collision Warning w/City Collision Mitigation
ZN4 Lane Departure Warning
ZPK Parking Assistance
ZPP Premium Package
ZTM Tier 2
ZX1 Active Park Distance
ZX2 Rear View Camera
ZX3 Surround View w/3D view
1CB Co2 Content
1CE 48v Mild Hybrid System
1CR Remote Engine Start
1VU 19" M Y-spoke Bi-color Midnight Grey Wheels, Style 887M with Allseason RFT
2TB 8-Speed Automatic Transmission
2VB Tire Pressure Monitor
2VF Adaptive M suspension
2VG Performance Control
2VL Variable Sport Steering
248 Heated Steering Wheel
258 RunFlat Tires
3AC Trailer Hitch
3DZ Without Lines designation outside
3MC Roof rails in High-gloss Shadowline
3MF M ShadowLine Lights
3M2 M sport brakes w/Red Calipers
302 Alarm System
319 Universal garage-door opener
32X Delete Hands free tailgate
32Z Delete Digital Key
322 Comfort Access keyless entry
4AW SensaTec Dashboard
4FH Front Ventilated Seats
4KN Smoke Grey Aluminum Rhombicle Trim
4NE Blow-by heater
4UR Ambient Lighting
4U0 Galvanic controls
402 Panoramic moonroof
420 Privacy glass
423 Floor mats
430 Auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors
431 Auto-dimming rearview mirror
461 Rear seat back adjustment
488 Lumbar Support
493 Storage package
494 Heated Front Seats
5AC Automatic High Beams
5AL Active Protection
5AP Decoding for no-dazzle high beam assistance
5AR Extended Traffic Jam Assistant
5AU Active Driving Assistant pro
5AV Active Guard
5DN Parking Assistant Plus
534 Dual Zone Auto Climate Control
552 Adaptive Full LED Lights
6AC BMW Assist eCall
6AE BMW TeleServices
6AK ConnectedDrive Services
6C4 Connected Package Pro
6DR Drive Recorder
6NS Enhanced USB and Bluetooth plus Smartphone Integration
6UX idrive Controller non-touchpad
6U3 Live Cockpit Pro (incl. Navi)
610 HUD
645 Radio control US
655 SiriusXM Satellite Radio with 1 year subscription
676 Hi-fi sound system
7M9 Extended Shadowline Trim
710 M steering wheel
715 Aerodynamic kit
760 Shadowline exterior trim
775 Anthracite headliner
8KL Oil Chg 10,000 mls/12 months
8R9 Refrigerant
8SM VIN Visible from Outside
8TN Daytime driving lights
823 Hot climate version
842 Cold climate version
845 Acoustic belt warning
853 Language Version English
992 characteristic control attachment

Missing from the build string:

6WD WiFi Hotspot with complimentary 3-month or 3GB trial
ZAX Apple CarPlay and Android Auto Compatibility

Needless to say, I'll be really, really unhappy if CarPlay and Android Auto are gone. Wi-Fi is nice but not something I'd use often nor would I subscribe to.

I'm going to ping my CA tomorrow and see if she can get clarity.

Normally I wouldn't worry too much about this but after chasing my wife's Q5 for a month I saw Audi inconsistently de-content a lot of features from relatively high-end builds.

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      07-21-2022, 11:35 PM   #110
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Let us know what you find out. I thought it was listed on my VIR, but now I see it's not there. It's not as much of a deal breaker as no cameras would be, but it's certainly a close second.
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