MSS vs H&R

anthemavm · 07-09-2022, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by itsbennington

Car looks great with the H&Rs. Did you also install spacers or no? I've been on the fence about doing H&R vs MSS and I think Im going to go H&R. Great seeing this old thread revived from time to time.

I am am in the same boat as you, I keep going back and forth with the decision.

anthemavm · 07-09-2022, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike_OGm2

I got the H&Rs and love them.

Upgraded your tire size?

mike@x-ph.com · 07-09-2022, 12:57 PM

Just switched from MSS to H&R on my M4 Comp.

I will be posting my feedback on the quality, drop and comfort of the 2 kits soon

anthemavm · 07-09-2022, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Just switched from MSS to H&R on my M4 Comp.

I will be posting my feedback on the quality, drop and comfort of the 2 kits soon

Why did you change?

RoWoX3M · 07-09-2022, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dmanb2b

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Originally Posted by RoWoX3M

https://motechperformance.*********....oming-feb-2020

Do you happen to have that ebay link handy for the Eibachs? Still digging them yes?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224456362351

Awesome all around for just a lowering spring

DCC · 07-09-2022, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RoWoX3M

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224456362351

Awesome all around for just a lowering spring

The listing says they do not ship to the United States

dmanb2b · 07-09-2022, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DCC

The listing says they do not ship to the United States

here you go

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...04578&_sacat=0

mike@x-ph.com · 07-10-2022, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by anthemavm

Why did you change?

I always change mods to have the chance to test it on my own

The objective is to give the customer the most honest and helpful feedback, not a sales pitch.

anthemavm · 07-10-2022, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I always change mods to have the chance to test it on my own

The objective is to give the customer the most honest and helpful feedback, not a sales pitch.

Great position to be in, and nice that you have experience. Appreciate it.

Jamezray25 · 07-10-2022, 09:26 PM

I went with MSS and 12MM spacers after about 500 miles driven on the X3M Comp.

mike@x-ph.com · 07-11-2022, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by anthemavm

Great position to be in, and nice that you have experience. Appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Jamezray25

I went with MSS and 12MM spacers after about 500 miles driven on the X3M Comp.

Looks great!

xcellr8tion · 07-11-2022, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamezray25

I went with MSS and 12MM spacers after about 500 miles driven on the X3M Comp.

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Originally Posted by Jamezray25

I went with MSS and 12MM spacers after about 500 miles driven on the X3M Comp.

Looks great! I'm curious how both the ride and the handling is vs stock, especially being an LCI.

MisPWR · 07-11-2022, 10:27 PM

H&R springs and H&R wheels spacers 15mm all corners. You can most certainly go lower with MSS. I am pretty content with the drop, they still have to settle.

anthemavm · 07-12-2022, 02:18 PM

Looks great, thanks for sharing.

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 07-12-2022, 07:42 PM

I wrote to H&R asking for the specific increase in spring rates / stiffness - over stock / factory. We'll see what they say soon.

Savage_M3 · 07-13-2022, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_M3

Which setup seems to have the best improvements with regard to handling?

Last weekend I hit an uphill onramp that slightly banked in towards the turn and there was a bit of a bump midturn. With the X3M and the higher ride height than my M3, it was a bit unsettling and bouncy on the corner. I assume one of these slightly softer setups might help in that type of situation. Anyone with some experience in that regard?

Bumping for these questions with regard to handling. The aesthetic improvement is nice, but I was looking for some feedback on the handling and ride.

r33_RGSport · 07-13-2022, 07:22 PM

Just in case if you guys overlooked my review on MSS vs H&R.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1711078

r33_RGSport · 07-13-2022, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_M3

Bumping for these questions with regard to handling. The aesthetic improvement is nice, but I was looking for some feedback on the handling and ride.

Since no one replied to you, let me jump on this.

Both H&R and MSS will solve your issue. But, MSS would do it better.
Front end on the H&R and MSS is about the same feedback.
While the rear, MSS spring setup is much better than H&R due to its triple rate design.

goldfz8 · 07-14-2022, 02:20 AM

Just put on the hr... thanks Mike xph is great

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 07-14-2022, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by goldfz8

Just put on the hr... thanks Mike xph is great

Please post more daytime shot soon. I provide some feedback once you've put a few hundred miles on the new H&R springs.

goldfz8 · 07-16-2022, 06:47 AM

Better shots

anthemavm · 07-16-2022, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Since no one replied to you, let me jump on this.

Both H&R and MSS will solve your issue. But, MSS would do it better.
Front end on the H&R and MSS is about the same feedback.
While the rear, MSS spring setup is much better than H&R due to its triple rate design.

I went and meet with Ben at r33_RGSport and at his recommendation had him install the MSS springs. Today got a chance to push the limits of my x3mc and the handling was incredible. I used 12mm spacers around and if I did it again would put a 15mm on the rear. If you can afford the MSS go for it.

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MisPWR Private 128 Rep 85 Posts Drives: 2022 X4M F98 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Queens, NYC iTrader: (0)	H&R springs and H&R wheels spacers 15mm all corners. You can most certainly go lower with MSS. I am pretty content with the drop, they still have to settle. Attached Images
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