[Juhazi]

I "saved" on rear camera, and now my 30e is customized!

[Admiral]

Bad luck juhazi

[ianfmarcus]

I recently took delivery of a brand new X3 30e and would like to sell it privately. It has about 480 miles on it. I bought it during peak COVID and didn't test drive it beforehand. I am coming out of a X5 40e and the X3 is not the car for me. If anyone has thoughts on the best way to sell a practically brand new car, I'm all ears!

[anotherguitarplayer]

Originally Posted by ianfmarcus

I recently took delivery of a brand new X3 30e and would like to sell it privately. It has about 480 miles on it. I bought it during peak COVID and didn't test drive it beforehand. I am coming out of a X5 40e and the X3 is not the car for me. If anyone has thoughts on the best way to sell a practically brand new car, I'm all ears!

Sorry to hear that. Did you chat with the dealer at all about a turn in and rolling any negative into a lease? Obviously, the drive off the lot hurts a bit. Any private party buyer loses the no-cost maintenance. It's not a lot these days, but it's still a perk. Tough position depending on the deal you got and current incentives.

[Bob in IL]

Originally Posted by ianfmarcus

I recently took delivery of a brand new X3 30e and would like to sell it privately. It has about 480 miles on it. I bought it during peak COVID and didn't test drive it beforehand. I am coming out of a X5 40e and the X3 is not the car for me. If anyone has thoughts on the best way to sell a practically brand new car, I'm all ears!

You could check with CarMax or Carvana and see what they offer for it. You'll no doubt take a financial hit but you could get out of it. Or as mentioned, check with the dealer about trading for a different vehcilde. They might work with you to somewhat minimize your loss.

[ianfmarcus]

Originally Posted by anotherguitarplayer

Sorry to hear that. Did you chat with the dealer at all about a turn in and rolling any negative into a lease? Obviously, the drive off the lot hurts a bit. Any private party buyer loses the no-cost maintenance. It's not a lot these days, but it's still a perk. Tough position depending on the deal you got and current incentives.

All good pointers, only my own stupidity for not test-driving during covid to blame

[Dilbert2402]

Originally Posted by AvatarAng

How much MPG are you actually getting without plugging in every night? I'm just wondering as I plan to go on a long road trip. THANK YOU!

This is a question that's going to be difficult to answer. I've found that when starting with a full battery for a 150 mile trip I end up recording around 40 miles on battery rather than the suggested 27. A lot depends on the kind of roads you use but so far I've yet to drop below a recorded 40 mpg which would obviously reduce as the miles increased.

[tpollard95124]

Originally Posted by Bob in IL

You could check with CarMax or Carvana and see what they offer for it. You'll no doubt take a financial hit but you could get out of it. Or as mentioned, check with the dealer about trading for a different vehcilde. They might work with you to somewhat minimize your loss.

What are the specs of your vehicle?

[admranger]

Originally Posted by ianfmarcus

I recently took delivery of a brand new X3 30e and would like to sell it privately. It has about 480 miles on it. I bought it during peak COVID and didn't test drive it beforehand. I am coming out of a X5 40e and the X3 is not the car for me. If anyone has thoughts on the best way to sell a practically brand new car, I'm all ears!

Talk to your dealer. If you get an X5 45e from them you might not get clobbered.

[Juhazi]

ianfmarcus, what exacty didn't you like about x3 30e? X5 is awfully more expensive here in Europe...

About ranges, i can drive 30-40km with batter only. Depends very much on circumstances - load, tempreature, city/road, trailer etc. Anyway daily drivingt to work and supermarket fully electrically for 2-3 days! During the summertime we have visited summer cottage 2-3 times a week which means more than average road driving with empty battery, and petrol consumption 5 liter/100km - me happy.

X3 30e is easy and soft to drive, comfort is high and noise level low. Hybrid options are reasonable and easy to manage, as well as other controls, gearbox and gas/battery operate seamlessly. Trunk floor is very high but space is adequate. Our 20kg wheaten terrier dog prefers sitting in the trunk without the cage and that's ok for us.

I guess I shoud test drive the MB and Volvo too now, that I'm stuck with this!

[Dilbert2402]

Has anyone else noticed that while the car is charging the aux supplies are live. I noticed tonight that after the car had been on charge for a couple of hours that the dashcam was recording.

[Juhazi]

https://www.drivingelectric.com/bmw/...battery-issues

BMW is recalling 26,700 of its plug-in hybrid models due to concerns over the safety of their batteries. Affected models include plug-in hybrid versions of the entire X range of SUVs, along with the 2 Series Active Tourer MPV, 3, 5 and 7 Series saloons, i8 Coupe and Roadster and the MINI Countryman. Reports suggest that cars built between 20 January and 18 September 2020 are affected.

[NordicX3]

Wow, it seems to be the same recall as previously mentioned at this forum but now with an even wider date range. If I correctly recall the previous date range mentioned cars build (or component period) between was march to august 2020. Mine was build in Dec 2019 so I seem to out of that range. Has anyone outside US been contacted related to this recall yet?

[Juhazi]

I've read tens of articles about this now. BMW and Ford are developing and testing procedures for faulty Samsung batteries. Obviously x-ray check isn't reality and they must change all batteries. Takes some time to get good ones to install?

I haven't got or read about any other customers directly contacted about this - we have only these articles. This is very sad, in modern times, customers with email and mobile phones with applications it should be easy!

I won't stop charging my February-car until I get the message! I don't know the exact date of release.

My VIN is WBATS1106L9C365**

[TXBDan]

The recall is here:
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=20V490000

It lists all the notices that the dealer's receives and also mentions that customers aren't being contacted until November.

It seems the faults ended in August production, but who knows. I'm considering ordering an X3 30e, but i want to make sure i can refuse delivery if its under recall when its ready. It's all pretty crappy.

[Juhazi]

Reports and actions have different timetable in all countries. Most of the cars were sold in Europe (EU)
USA has best consumer protection laws!

[Juhazi]

The German forum says only 9000 delivered cars are affected, and this was published Oct 15th

https://www.bimmertoday.de/2020/10/1...hrzeuge-droht/

[fndrplayer13]

Originally Posted by TXBDan

The recall is here:
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=20V490000

It lists all the notices that the dealer's receives and also mentions that customers aren't being contacted until November.

It seems the faults ended in August production, but who knows. I'm considering ordering an X3 30e, but i want to make sure i can refuse delivery if its under recall when its ready. It's all pretty crappy.

TXBDan - the dealers aren't allowed to sell you a car with an open recall, so no need to worry about this. If you call about a car under recall the dealer will tell you that they have a stop sale on the car.

[TXBDan]

Originally Posted by Juhazi

The German forum says only 9000 delivered cars are affected, and this was published Oct 15th

https://www.bimmertoday.de/2020/10/1...hrzeuge-droht/

My understanding is that only a third of the recalled vehicles left the factory and that most went to Europe. So that sounds about right.

[TXBDan]

Originally Posted by fndrplayer13

TXBDan - the dealers aren't allowed to sell you a car with an open recall, so no need to worry about this. If you call about a car under recall the dealer will tell you that they have a stop sale on the car.

Ah makes sense. That jives with what a few dealers have told me as well. They had some inventory that they weren't allowed to sell.

[viper689]

Originally Posted by TXBDan

Ah makes sense. That jives with what a few dealers have told me as well. They had some inventory that they weren't allowed to sell.

Curious, is there a way to tell if a dealership knew a car was affected by the recall? I had spoken to 2 BMW dealerships in my area regarding the 30e back in late August, and dealership #1 said they were currently stopping sale of 2020 models because "there were some changes being made". I didn't figure that meant there was a recall down the line, but hindsight.

Now dealership #2, said no such thing, and I was able to buy the 30e, no problems. Fast forward 6 weeks, and bam! Recall. Is it possible that the dealership knew about the recall, but wanted to make the sale anyway?

[fndrplayer13]

Originally Posted by viper689

Curious, is there a way to tell if a dealership knew a car was affected by the recall? I had spoken to 2 BMW dealerships in my area regarding the 30e back in late August, and dealership #1 said they were currently stopping sale of 2020 models because "there were some changes being made". I didn't figure that meant there was a recall down the line, but hindsight.

Now dealership #2, said no such thing, and I was able to buy the 30e, no problems. Fast forward 6 weeks, and bam! Recall. Is it possible that the dealership knew about the recall, but wanted to make the sale anyway?

I doubt they would make the sale. When you go to finance, negotiate, etc, I'm sure that flag would come up. They can (and would, I believe) get in trouble w/ corporate BMW in that case. It's also illegal in the US to sell a car with an open recall (https://instamotor.com/buy-used-car/...-recalled-cars).

If you're still concerned though, check out NHSTA and plug in the VIN of any car you're considering purchasing before buying it: https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls