[bjornb]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

While true, the new live dash etc starts in August for the X3/4M. See last few pages of: Upcoming BMW model pipeline preview info - from G29 and G06 to F92 and beyond https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

So if one would order an X4M now they would get the new dash?

[bjornb]

Also my dealer confirmed individual colours won't be available because the car is made in Spartanburg and they don't have the special request program over there.

When will we see more rim options? or do we think it stays with these 2?.

[Jbravo33]

I guess soccer moms have changed over the years.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by bjornb

So if one would order an X4M now they would get the new dash?

No. If one would order one with a production date in August they would get the new dash. If they order now (which would be April productions dates) they get the current dash. Again this is all assuming the OP in that thread is right, and he has been right far many times than he has been wrong

[bjornb]

Originally Posted by ssiddiq1

End of production is 11/23 so I’m thinking the LCI might come sooner than the typical 2022 model year cycle. I’d guess maybe spring of 2021 for an early MY 2022 release. This is just me speculating though.

what you mean with typical 2022 model year cycle? how long is the model year cycle normally? 4 years?

[psuibmw]

: talking about EOP when vehicle production hasn't started yet

[atl_1M]

Originally Posted by bjornb

what you mean with typical 2022 model year cycle? how long is the model year cycle normally? 4 years?

Model year production generally begins in August, so my point is that they may release the X3 LCI prior to August and still cost it a MY2022 . And as for production cycles, the non-M models have historically been 6-7 years (and even shorter in some cases), but the M models are between 4-5.

I just personally like to have an idea how substantial the LCI updates might be especially if they're not that far down the road. I get that you will always be chasing the next model, whether it be LCI or complete model updates, but it doesn't hurt to have more information when making a $80k+ purchase.

[ContactPatch]

Originally Posted by Jbravo33

I guess soccer moms have changed over the years.

Agreed, they got fatter and need an SUV!

[Dillinger]

When do we think we'll start hearing driving reviews?

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by Dillinger

When do we think we'll start hearing driving reviews?

Production starts in April, will hit lots in June, selling starting in July, so I would guess April/May sometime if previous models reviews in the past 2/3 years remains consistent.

[Gav22]

I'm very excited about both! Still got a couple years till my M40i lease is up, but certainly will be looking at these!

Am I the only one that is surprised by the badge placement? For 2019, they moved the badges to the bottom of the door and I like this better. Now on these, it's back up to the middle (below the glass). I wish they had kept it at the bottom like the 2019 models.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by Gav22

I'm very excited about both! Still got a couple years till my M40i lease is up, but certainly will be looking at these!

Am I the only one that is surprised by the badge placement? For 2019, they moved the badges to the bottom of the door and I like this better. Now on these, it's back up to the middle (below the glass). I wish they had kept it at the bottom like the 2019 models.

I think it was to remain consistent with the raised position of the M badge amongst all M cars (including the bugger brother SUVs)

[schnell325]

Have they listed the tow capacity of the X3M yet?

I looked for it, but might have missed it?

[verysideways]

Originally Posted by schnell325

Have they listed the tow capacity of the X3M yet?

I looked for it, but might have missed it?

UK press release says 2500kg for X3M.

Note: X3 M40i is 2400kg with optional tow bar, or 2000kg without.

[schnell325]

Originally Posted by verysideways

UK press release says 2500kg for X3M.

Note: X3 M40i is 2400kg with optional tow bar, or 2000kg without.

[Estoril6rod]

So what's next? X3M/X4M GTS? CSL?

A limited run "starbucks package" that includes extra large cup holders with M badges?

A special roll cage with M stripes as a preventive measure for those hardcore sprints at the stoplight?

M division probably roll their eyes too at this M massacre, but hey when the big marketing boys upstairs want M for their starbucks trips they have to listen...

[kozzi]

Originally Posted by Estoril6rod

So what's next? X3M/X4M GTS? CSL?

A limited run "starbucks package" that includes extra large cup holders with M badges?

A special roll cage with M stripes as a preventive measure for those hardcore sprints at the stoplight?

M division probably roll their eyes too at this M massacre, but hey when the big marketing boys upstairs want M for their starbucks trips they have to listen...

Says he who drives a M235i...

[Estoril6rod]

Originally Posted by kozzi

Says he who drives a M235i...

Says he who still wonders to this day WHY BMW put an M badge on a non-M 2-series. Jokes on you buddy.

[-JLT-]

Originally Posted by Estoril6rod

So what's next? X3M/X4M GTS? CSL?

A limited run "starbucks package" that includes extra large cup holders with M badges?

A special roll cage with M stripes as a preventive measure for those hardcore sprints at the stoplight?

M division probably roll their eyes too at this M massacre, but hey when the big marketing boys upstairs want M for their starbucks trips they have to listen...

if u don't like it, don't visit the forum. stick to the 2-series forum

[Estoril6rod]

Originally Posted by -JLT-

if u don't like it, don't visit the forum. stick to the 2-series forum

First off, I'll visit any BMW forum I want, free and open forums my friend

Second, if you knew me in real life you'd know I always take jabs at my own car whenever the M topic comes about, I call it my little "special-needs M". I'd wish BMW would've gone a different route in regards to M badges but hey it is what it is, one can only joke, laugh or gasp in horror. Don't get me wrong I like the direction BMW took in regards to the X3/X4, but come on... M and Competition don't belong in these and the absence of these status and badges doesn't take away at what might be very outstanding SUV's.

Apparently I offended the first guy that tried to take a jab at me since maybe I described his daily starbucks and red stoplight racing routine all too well? But worry not! I'm headed down to the BMW dealership to buy him a nice plush M branded towel... I'll let you figure out for what.

[-JLT-]

Originally Posted by Estoril6rod

First off, I'll visit any BMW forum I want, free and open forums my friend

Second, if you knew me in real life you'd know I always take jabs at my own car whenever the M topic comes about, I call it my little "special-needs M". I'd wish BMW would've gone a different route in regards to M badges but hey it is what it is, one can only joke, laugh or gasp in horror. Don't get me wrong I like the direction BMW took in regards to the X3/X4, but come on... M and Competition don't belong in these and the absence of these status and badges doesn't take away at what might be very outstanding SUV's.

Apparently I offended the first guy that tried to take a jab at me since maybe I described his daily starbucks and red stoplight racing routine all too well? But worry not! I'm headed down to the BMW dealership to buy him a nice plush M branded towel... I'll let you figure out for what.

I'm just messing with u. I don't mind BMW making M versions of all their lineups. I normally am not a fan of SUVs but now I need one so I'm glad they're making an M version of it. if they didn't, I have no problems getting an X3 M40i

[Estoril6rod]

Originally Posted by -JLT-

I'm just messing with u. I don't mind BMW making M versions of all their lineups. I normally am not a fan of SUVs but now I need one so I'm glad they're making an M version of it. if they didn't, I have no problems getting an X3 M40i

No worries man, I was just clearing some stuff up is all.

I don't mind it either that BMW is making high performance versions of the base X3/X4 nor the other big brothers. But if it were up to me I'd brand them as that, "Performance" versions and I'd keep the status of M, Competition, CSL, GTS, etc for the true hardcore double duty M cars. But hey it's not my decision so I can only comment and share my views.