[Logical]

Soo basically you spend btw 85-120k and you get 11 sec SUVs. Meh...

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Logical

Soo basically you spend btw 85-120k and you get 11 sec SUVs. Meh...

You can't even be mad. It's an SUV.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

You can't even be mad. It's an SUV.

True...but I'm not spending 90k on a V6 there is a couple cylinders missing. Maybe they can tune the S63 in the F95 into high 10 sec range

[Cortexiphan]

S58 is a legend in the making.
I’m so excited for G80: Both the grill and engine.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Logical

True...but I'm not spending 90k on a V6 there is a couple cylinders missing. Maybe they can tune the S63 in the F95 into high 10 sec range

Vegas bet is the F95 will be slower than the F97 , both pure stock.

I'm basing this on the 800lb weight difference between the F95 and the F97.

My F90 M5 went 11.2 at 124mph pure stock at 4300lbs.

My wife's F97 went 11.7 at 119mph pure stock at 4500lbs.

The F95 Comp has the same engine as the F90 but weighs 1000lbs more. It should run an 11.9 to 12.0 stock.....will be fun to see the test results come out.

[paliknight]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Vegas bet is the F95 will be slower than the F97 , both pure stock.

I'm basing this on the 800lb weight difference between the F95 and the F97.

My F90 M5 went 11.2 at 124mph pure stock at 4300lbs.

My wife's F97 went 11.7 at 119mph pure stock at 4500lbs.

The F95 Comp has the same engine as the F90 but weighs 1000lbs more. It should run an 11.9 to 12.0 stock.....will be fun to see the test results come out.

You really think so? Because the F97 will have more HP/TQ than the Cayenne Turbo in the video but weigh similarly.

[Ghostriderf80]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

If The X4M is doing it in 11.6, that means the M3 will be even faster.
Looking at the prototypes on the ring, they are very quick.

M4 Comp G82 full send.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by paliknight

You really think so? Because the F97 will have more HP/TQ than the Cayenne Turbo in the video but weigh similarly.

Not 100%, but If I HAD to place a bet, it would be on the F97 due to my own Dragy results. My F90 at 11.2 add 1000lbs that will be a tough deal to go quicker than an 11.9 to 12.0

F97 cruises all day long at 11.7-11.8 by me and others (Me, IND and CarWOW)

So the F95 will have to go 11.6 to be a bit quicker...there is no way my F90 would only slow 0.40 sec by adding 1000lbs....not possible.

BMW will "rate" the F95 as quicker due to Sales...when the rubber meets the road will probably be a different story...

BTW, I loved my F85. Best all rounder up to that point ever for me....

[Bahn360Photo]

X4 is clearly faster

They should have opened all windows and blasted AC to show that a X6 copycat Porsche can come close with its turbo v8 😆

[RyanBMW]

Why would you want to race in comfort mode? All races should be in sport or sport + mode please!

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by RyanBMW

Why would you want to race in comfort mode? All races should be in sport or sport + mode please!

I think it's to simulate normal driving and kick down.

[GrussGott]

I'm horrified by the new G8x design, plus I'm a vert driver and the new soft-top is a major bummer ... combine those two and I was going to walk from BMW for the first time in 15 years.

Then, a few weeks ago, I sat in the X3M and holy shit if I didn't like it better than any of the other cars I sat in (M2/3/4/5 8) - then I found out new G8x engine???

I'm not up for a year, but if the G8x looks like it does now, this will be my new ride, and I won't even be ashamed of it.

[-JLT-]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

I'm horrified by the new G8x design, plus I'm a vert driver and the new soft-top is a major bummer ... combine those two and I was going to walk from BMW for the first time in 15 years.

Then, a few weeks ago, I sat in the X3M and holy shit if I didn't like it better than any of the other cars I sat in (M2/3/4/5 8) - then I found out new G8x engine???

I'm not up for a year, but if the G8x looks like it does now, this will be my new ride, and I won't even be ashamed of it.

do it!!! I did

i'm gonna miss the M4 'vert but this isn't too shabby :

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

I'm horrified by the new G8x design, plus I'm a vert driver and the new soft-top is a major bummer ... combine those two and I was going to walk from BMW for the first time in 15 years.

Then, a few weeks ago, I sat in the X3M and holy shit if I didn't like it better than any of the other cars I sat in (M2/3/4/5 8) - then I found out new G8x engine???

I'm not up for a year, but if the G8x looks like it does now, this will be my new ride, and I won't even be ashamed of it.

The X4M might be it for me as well if I move away from BMW, then my personal car would become a 911 down the line. Although the X3M's utility might win out. Though the X3M looks too tame compared to the X4M.

Duno... I'll see how a few years will pan out.

[upsidedownfunnel]

Originally Posted by Drj161

The weird thing is that BMW "listened" to the same sausage different length and changed the exterior of the cars, but now all the interiors are the same. there's almost no differentiation between a 3 series and 8 series.

In pictures they make look a like, but when you sit in the cars, they feel very different. Considering the 3/4/X3/X4 and probably the X5 are the most common BMWs sold, for the vast majority of BMW customers, that's a good thing.

[dlk001]

Originally Posted by doberzus

Watching multiple Carwow drag races with various SUVs like the GLC63 S, Alfa Stelvio QV, Jag F-Pace SVR, TrackHawk, G63. I know different conditions, different road surfaces, etc.

G63 - 12.3s
GLC63S - 12.1
Stelvio QV - 12.0
F-Pace SVR - 12.0
TrackHawk - 11.9

X4M - 11.8

This might be the fastest midsize SUV out right now. Minus Tesla Model X P100DL

The surface when GLC63S time was set looked damp. I'm sure that contributes to the times.

[paliknight]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Not 100%, but If I HAD to place a bet, it would be on the F97 due to my own Dragy results. My F90 at 11.2 add 1000lbs that will be a tough deal to go quicker than an 11.9 to 12.0

F97 cruises all day long at 11.7-11.8 by me and others (Me, IND and CarWOW)

So the F95 will have to go 11.6 to be a bit quicker...there is no way my F90 would only slow 0.40 sec by adding 1000lbs....not possible.

BMW will "rate" the F95 as quicker due to Sales...when the rubber meets the road will probably be a different story...

BTW, I loved my F85. Best all rounder up to that point ever for me....

That's interesting. If that's the case the F95 won't be much quicker in the quarter mile than its predecessor. I'm curious to see note which performs best once it's released. If that's the case then the price difference will be solely for features as opposed to performance.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by paliknight

That's interesting. If that's the case the F95 won't be much quicker in the quarter mile than its predecessor. I'm curious to see note which performs best once it's released. If that's the case then the price difference will be solely for features as opposed to performance.

Even if the F95 is 0.2 slower in the 1/4 vs a F97, the F95 interior will be incredible (equal to the F90).

F97 Comp interior is good. F90 is incredible. F95 will be also.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

I think it's to simulate normal driving and kick down.

Indeed he even goes to the trouble of explaining that in the videos, he also does rolling races locked in 3rd with everything up to 11 but it tends to be either or not both.

[04cobra]

Trackhawk will take all the SUVs off the line, but its weight really slows it down and why it has a lower 1/4 mile. On the flip side I can mod it to run 9s with bolt-ons.

[BMthusiast]

S58 is a ///Monster.

[doberzus]

Originally Posted by 04cobra

Trackhawk will take all the SUVs off the line, but its weight really slows it down and why it has a lower 1/4 mile. On the flip side I can mod it to run 9s with bolt-ons.

TrackHawk will definitely take all of these off the line if we are just talking about "stabbing" the throttle from a dig. If both the X3M and TrackHawk use LC, it'll be close. When I build boost off the line in the X3M, it takes off like a bat out of hell.

I really wanted a TrackHawk, but with all the issues my Challenger Hellcat had I just could not do another FCA car. Plus, the 9-10MPG, maybe even less with the way that I drive. Was definitely a no-go for me. I was living at the gas pump with the Hellcat That S/C whine was addicting AF.

Most TrackHawks are also trapping 113-114MPH which seems very low compared to the X3/4M's 117-118 using real world results for both.

On average the Jeep is getting 11.9-12.1s at 113-114
On average the BMW is getting 11.7-11.8s at 117-118.

I want to see the head to head race...if only someone near me had a TH.