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      02-12-2020, 07:08 PM   #67
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That backwards tach and and speedometer is awful. Why wouldn't they just rotate each 90 degrees so the increase happens left to right (like every other car in history) instead in a semicircle? Especially for an M model where the tach should be more prominent and important.
This is my beef. Had this shite in my g05 and traded that thing in 8/mo. Abomination. Cluster belongs in a vehicle with an identity crisis like Jaguar. Fucking headlight switch is a least 7 separate buttons.
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      02-12-2020, 07:08 PM   #68
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Is this i7 lite like G30 2020 or full on i7?
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      02-12-2020, 07:15 PM   #69
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I canít say I regret getting my ID6 X3m if this is going to be the way it looks.

I canít fathom why they would not just give an option for the analog style gauges? Surely they realize those buying performance vehicles appreciate the classic view.
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That backwards tach and and speedometer is awful. Why wouldn't they just rotate each 90 degrees so the increase happens left to right (like every other car in history) instead in a semicircle? Especially for an M model where the tach should be more prominent and important.
This is my beef. Had this shite in my g05 and traded that thing in 8/mo. Abomination. Cluster belongs in a vehicle with an identity crisis like Jaguar. Fucking headlight switch is a least 7 separate buttons.
Put the lights on auto and be done. Why mess with it? Can't remember the last time I messed with a headlight button / switch other than putting it in "auto"... 🤷🏼
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      02-12-2020, 07:40 PM   #71
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I would be fine if my car came with ID7 but not going to lose any sleep over it as ID6 is amongst the best systems out there still. Worst thing will be the addition of silver buttons all over the interior. I thought that silver fad was over long ago.
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That backwards tach and and speedometer is awful. Why wouldn't they just rotate each 90 degrees so the increase happens left to right (like every other car in history) instead in a semicircle? Especially for an M model where the tach should be more prominent and important.
This is my beef. Had this shite in my g05 and traded that thing in 8/mo. Abomination. Cluster belongs in a vehicle with an identity crisis like Jaguar. Fucking headlight switch is a least 7 separate buttons.
Put the lights on auto and be done. Why mess with it? Can't remember the last time I messed with a headlight button / switch other than putting it in "auto"... 🤷🏼
Totally forgot about that area until you mentioned it! The switch/knob is the "newest" part of the car - still has that unworn, crisp, matte plastic feel since it has only been used once - to switch to auto.
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I would be fine if my car came with ID7 but not going to lose any sleep over it as ID6 is amongst the best systems out there still. Worst thing will be the addition of silver buttons all over the interior. I thought that silver fad was over long ago.
Id6 is completely dated. I own both. Use both daily, id7 for its home screen alone is light years ahead.
But everything, including the cluster is better. You guys just arent used to the style.
Use it for a month then comment

If you use carplay they are no different. Ill give you that.
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The most annoying thing ive noticed is you cant turn the headlights off while driving

Maybe I like to roll around at dusk with just my AE.
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I would be fine if my car came with ID7 but not going to lose any sleep over it as ID6 is amongst the best systems out there still. Worst thing will be the addition of silver buttons all over the interior. I thought that silver fad was over long ago.
That was one of the first things I noticed in the loaner I had today. Even said to my wife ďthese silver buttons look awfully cheesyĒ

I was messing around with the settings for the dash layout and just couldnít find anything to my liking. I did however like the album art overlay if you have it set to display the entertainment option. That was cool. The map was useless..the fact you have to look down and take your eyes off the road...no thanks. Looking at the HUD or I drive screen is better. I turned off the map. When I switched between comfort and sport I expected a drastic display change...it was subtle at best.
I can learn to get past all that... but I donít think I can ever get used to the tach and speedometer gauges.
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That backwards tach and and speedometer is awful. Why wouldn't they just rotate each 90 degrees so the increase happens left to right (like every other car in history) instead in a semicircle? Especially for an M model where the tach should be more prominent and important.
This is my beef. Had this shite in my g05 and traded that thing in 8/mo. Abomination. Cluster belongs in a vehicle with an identity crisis like Jaguar. Fucking headlight switch is a least 7 separate buttons.
Put the lights on auto and be done. Why mess with it? Can't remember the last time I messed with a headlight button / switch other than putting it in "auto"... 🤷🏼
Totally forgot about that area until you mentioned it! The switch/knob is the "newest" part of the car - still has that unworn, crisp, matte plastic feel since it has only been used once - to switch to auto.
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Doesn't really matter to me since I mainly look at the heads up display.
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Put the lights on auto and be done. Why mess with it? Can't remember the last time I messed with a headlight button / switch other than putting it in "auto"... 🤷🏼
When at speed above 5 mph the driver cannot switch from auto to parking lights only during night driving; example - if you are driving back into your neighbor hood late and donít want to light up houses. That is only one point behind having an actual manual switch. Further, the driver again has to take eyes off the road, & look to the lower left for something unnecessary. The auto ďfeatureĒ works well as does an automatic slush-box. Put those switches in regular bmwís...fine, but not ///M cars.
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So even M cars get a backwards tachometer? Fun game
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I'm all for the latest tech, but the current "old-school" instrument cluster looks much better than the refresh IMO.
I agree. Anything is possible with digital technology and this is the best the designers can do? The counterclockwise indication for an increasing parameter, in this case RPM, makes absolutely no sense.
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Exactly. No clock spins backwards except for in wonkaland where the weed is strong.
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Haven’t seen anything in 7 to make me want the right to left tach. Prefer the digital dash with the analog feel so glad I got one before it went to the full digital without the round speedo/tach accents.
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Haven't seen anything in 7 to make me want the right to left tach. Prefer the digital dash with the analog feel so glad I got one before it went to the full digital without the round speedo/tach accents.
Agreed. And why not at least give us a choice? It's just a software skin.

I think the digital dash in the current car and the f90 M5 before it was upgraded was a perfect evolution of their traditional look into a full digital display. Glad I have it.

I can't believe they don't give all the M cars the m8 sport display option... that's disappointing.
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I'm all for the latest tech, but the current "old-school" instrument cluster looks much better than the refresh IMO.
I agree. Anything is possible with digital technology and this is the best the designers can do? The counterclockwise indication for an increasing parameter, in this case RPM, makes absolutely no sense.
I mean I get it from a design standpoint by it opens the center for infotainment and nag but there should be a normal version for real driving. Let people have options. Bmw is forcing adoption of this strange new paradigm
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I can't believe they don't give all the M cars the m8 sport display option... that's disappointing.
Hold on, Iím confused. Doesnít this article say that the X3M *is* getting the display from the M8? The photo in the article looks pretty close to the M8ís display.

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I like FCA infotainment system. It's so easy to use. Simple. I get in the BMW and I have no idea where anything is. Very confusing in comparison.
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Hold on, I’m confused. Doesn’t this article say that the X3M *is* getting the display from the M8? The photo in the article looks pretty close to the M8’s display.

I don't think that's as good as what Audi and MB offer but I could live with this setup as although the dual tachs look a bit strange it's pretty straightforward. Problem is that everytime you start your car the display defaults to the counterintuitive regular display and you have to be in an M-mode to get that display. I don't understand why BMW is so restrictive with their LED displays as the competition offers far more customization of their LED screens.
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Now that is a MUCH better cluster above. It’s reads x3m in the center. Would be great if all the ///M cars get that above. That make me want to rip some gears.
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