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      04-30-2019, 06:37 PM   #23
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The only "problem" I see is weight and tires. I'm sure weight is more due to car being more luxurious inside and maybe additional performance features but the extra power will take care of it. Tires - nothing to say, if it's true I'm disappointed but I'd think it's also done for a reason.
tbh, w/ it being AWD i don't think it's as important traction wise (don't get me wrong, i would love to see 315's on the rear) to have very wide tires. also, those wide tires are heavy as hell
Maybe the already heavy weight was the reason for the skinnier tires
BMW M Division definitely should've added a Carbon Fiber Roof option to keep some weight down. I think the panoramic moonroof adds approximately 70 pounds and a standard moonroof adds 40+ pounds. All could be eliminated to save top/heavy unnecessary weight.
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I'm ticked off that the X4 does NOT have interior recessed handrails, for when you're a passenger and you want to hold on in a corner or just a nice place to hold hand while touring.

This is something BMW hast to add to the X4, it will not impede and head room whatsoever.
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The only "problem" I see is weight and tires. I'm sure weight is more due to car being more luxurious inside and maybe additional performance features but the extra power will take care of it. Tires - nothing to say, if it's true I'm disappointed but I'd think it's also done for a reason.
tbh, w/ it being AWD i don't think it's as important traction wise (don't get me wrong, i would love to see 315's on the rear) to have very wide tires. also, those wide tires are heavy as hell
Maybe the already heavy weight was the reason for the skinnier tires
BMW M Division definitely should've added a Carbon Fiber Roof option to keep some weight down. I think the panoramic moonroof adds approximately 70 pounds and a standard moonroof adds 40+ pounds. All could be eliminated to save top/heavy unnecessary weight.
Pano roof is probably 100-150 lbs more than steel roof alone and 150-200 lbs more than a mythical CFRP roof. Now the big question though is the listed weight of 4600 lbs with or without pano roof??
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      04-30-2019, 08:51 PM   #26
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Awesome this post/thread made the front page!

I regret not making the video a bit longer and filming the engine bay.

In defense of the X3M, this color combo really doesn't help.
I think one of the 2-tone interior options would go a long way.

Still for a "Competition" model - it is underwhelming for what it is.
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My only complaint is the quad exhaust is barely noticeable!!!! In every picture and video, can barely make it out that it's quads!
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Bar a few details looks pretty much same as my x3 m40d...and this car specc'd to same level in UK is over £80,000. That's a serious amount of coin.
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Bar a few details looks pretty much same as my x3 m40d...and this car specc'd to same level in UK is over £80,000. That's a serious amount of coin.
I'd agree...but am still tempted I have 3 of the 4 options packs on my 40D and its financed on £47k after getting a nice Pre-Reg discount. Will be sometime before these are realistic.
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Struggling to see why anyone would buy the X3M over the X3 M40i at almost $30k more. If it was a lot quicker or looked drastically different maybe I could justify the price, but the X3 M40i seems like the better choice in every scenario.
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Could have used better simpler wheels. I agree with the OP, it doesn't look much different from the M340. Fenders should be similar to X5M, little more enhanced.
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Struggling to see why anyone would buy the X3M over the X3 M40i at almost $30k more. If it was a lot quicker or looked drastically different maybe I could justify the price, but the X3 M40i seems like the better choice in every scenario.
A loaded X3 M40 tops out at 65k. It's actually a very small step to the X3M.

Just watched the video and this is the same car where people were complaining about the seats being dirty.

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Could have used better simpler wheels. I agree with the OP, it doesn't look much different from the M340. Fenders should be similar to X5M, little more enhanced.

Anyone can knock down any car over the wheels because Wheels are personal preference.

If you don't like them sell them and go aftermarket. Those wheels are built for strength to meet TUV standards over anything else.
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Could have used better simpler wheels. I agree with the OP, it doesn't look much different from the M340. Fenders should be similar to X5M, little more enhanced.

Anyone can knock down any car over the wheels because Wheels are personal preference.

If you don't like them sell them and go aftermarket. Those wheels are built for strength to meet TUV standards over anything else.
It's not just the wheel design.....somehow the whole setup doesn't give that bulky look. It maybe different in real. But not in pics.
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Could have used better simpler wheels. I agree with the OP, it doesn't look much different from the M340. Fenders should be similar to X5M, little more enhanced.

Anyone can knock down any car over the wheels because Wheels are personal preference.

If you don't like them sell them and go aftermarket. Those wheels are built for strength to meet TUV standards over anything else.
It's not just the wheel design.....somehow the whole setup doesn't give that bulky look. It maybe different in real. But not in pics.
Copy that.

I agree it doesn't have haunches or flared bodywork or really much more in the way of being aggressive. The F82 M4 also underwhelmed compared to the F80 M3.
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I hope everyone shares the emotions of this thread's posters. If this thing doesn't sell, lease deals will be killer!

Hopefully we have an M3CS situation here!!!
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M5 and X5M have to stay the flagman cars so that makes sense.

I just don't get this M vs M40 comparison. Cars are different period imho.

I'd challenge all F10 M5 and F80 guys to jump into M550 and M340 next. No enthusiast is going to do that. I can also argue M550 is the same looking and all as F90 but we all know this is false. Same goes here.

I am confused, are you referring to F30 (non M) to F80 M3.
Just park both side by side and see them from the rear, somebody has to be blind to not be able to tell the difference, on how (way)more muscular the M3 is.

Now do the same on X3 and X3M, ehmmm....someone says you need magnifying glass to tell the difference. This is what everyone is talking about, the car is beautiful but not enough distinction from non(real) M X3.

Again, it could be blessing in disguise, maybe discount from the get go on X3M/X4M
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M5 and X5M have to stay the flagman cars so that makes sense.

I just don't get this M vs M40 comparison. Cars are different period imho.

I'd challenge all F10 M5 and F80 guys to jump into M550 and M340 next. No enthusiast is going to do that. I can also argue M550 is the same looking and all as F90 but we all know this is false. Same goes here.

I am confused, are you referring to F30 (non M) to F80 M3.
Just park both side by side and see them from the rear, somebody has to be blind to not be able to tell the difference, on how (way)more muscular the M3 is.

Now do the same on X3 and X3M, ehmmm....someone says you need magnifying glass to tell the difference. This is what everyone is talking about, the car is beautiful but not enough distinction from non(real) M X3.

Again, it could be blessing in disguise, maybe discount from the get go on X3M/X4M
I had a F30 and F80 both black at the same time and no one would really know the difference expect for my car friends. And I really preferred it that way. I don't want to be noticed and keep my cars stock. Still have the F80 tucked away in a garage and will be replacing the X3 30i with a X3 M. I even thought about getting the same dark grey but ended up picking with Donington.

There are significant differences between the M40i and X3 M. Engine, Brakes, Suspension and weighty structural reinforcements.

Looking from the back comparing a M40i to a X3 M you'd notice the different rear spoiler, bumper, exhaust and maybe the M mirrors.
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M5 and X5M have to stay the flagman cars so that makes sense.

I just don't get this M vs M40 comparison. Cars are different period imho.

I'd challenge all F10 M5 and F80 guys to jump into M550 and M340 next. No enthusiast is going to do that. I can also argue M550 is the same looking and all as F90 but we all know this is false. Same goes here.

I am confused, are you referring to F30 (non M) to F80 M3.
Just park both side by side and see them from the rear, somebody has to be blind to not be able to tell the difference, on how (way)more muscular the M3 is.

Now do the same on X3 and X3M, ehmmm....someone says you need magnifying glass to tell the difference. This is what everyone is talking about, the car is beautiful but not enough distinction from non(real) M X3.

Again, it could be blessing in disguise, maybe discount from the get go on X3M/X4M
I didn't say compare the looks of 3 vs M3 - I said go buy and drive one instead of an M3.

In this case I was looking into the future and comparing M340 vs new M3 or existing M550 and existing F90.

This "not enough M" is getting old. All Porsches are identical one might say so what? That's called brand.
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Just IMHO, and I guess I have 10 other people as of today in the poll above.
And I assume people who disagree have their names on the list for allocation at the dealers
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A loaded X3 M40 tops out at 65k. It's actually a very small step to the X3M.

Just watched the video and this is the same car where people were complaining about the seats being dirty.

# because demo
So yes, $83,400 for a loaded X3M Comp, so maybe not as big of a spread, but $80k still seems REALLY high to me for a smaller SUV with a claimed 0-60 of ~4.0. We all know it will probably be faster than that, but just hard to justify in my head still. Will wait for reviews.
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So yes, $83,400 for a loaded X3M Comp, so maybe not as big of a spread, but $80k still seems REALLY high to me for a smaller SUV with a claimed 0-60 of ~4.0. We all know it will probably be faster than that, but just hard to justify in my head still. Will wait for reviews.
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A loaded X3 M40 tops out at 65k. It's actually a very small step to the X3M.

Just watched the video and this is the same car where people were complaining about the seats being dirty.

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So yes, $83,400 for a loaded X3M Comp, so maybe not as big of a spread, but $80k still seems REALLY high to me for a smaller SUV with a claimed 0-60 of ~4.0. We all know it will probably be faster than that, but just hard to justify in my head still. Will wait for reviews.
Compared to a comparably equipped F80 the X3M represents a great value.
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