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      05-19-2019, 02:35 PM   #45
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We don't have any of that in the US. Canada also has all black trim options which we don't get either.
It had me confused because the article mentions the M40d and I didn’t think that engine was offered Stateside?
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I think the updates in August are great.

x3 M40
x4 M40

both are getting more HP and a different B58 engine (o1) - same as M340 has
382HP (which feels more like 400HP), plus
Live cockpit and I drive 7 with some new tech plus
New seats and some colors
Is this just wishful thinking? Only sources I find are saying color and seats only. Nothing about HP increases or Live Cockpit.

In addition to OP, I only find mention on Autoblog.

Autoblog:
The X3 and X4 add M Sport seats and new trim strips as options. Starting in August those models also get an M Sport Individual option.
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Can you point me to that data?
It's in the link that you gave. It's scattered in the first page and put in different month updates (August 2018 and March 2019).
So you're interpreting this as the regular X3/X4 get iDrive7 starting August 2019 but the M version gets it beginning April 2020? I'll be surprised if BMW leaves only the flagship X3/4 M on the older tech for 7 months. I guess we'll see soon enough.
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      05-19-2019, 06:29 PM   #48
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Any official news on this yet - can only find Bimmerpost mentioning anything. I tried to get out of current order to update with new seats but dealer can’t find any info.
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      05-19-2019, 07:00 PM   #49
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So you're interpreting this as the regular X3/X4 get iDrive7 starting August 2019 but the M version gets it beginning April 2020? I'll be surprised if BMW leaves only the flagship X3/4 M on the older tech for 7 months. I guess we'll see soon enough.
That is exactly what is going to happen.

That is why I'm so excited about the regular 2020 x3 M40 in August
Not only it is getting a new engine - 382HP

it gets the new tech way before the M x3 gets it.

So if you spec your car with
- limited slip
- Adaptive M suspension
- New M seats
- new tech/nav HUD package (probably premium)

Who needs an X3 M
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      05-19-2019, 09:16 PM   #50
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This could be seen as a negative assuming you find Live cockpit an abomination which I do. I also think Idrive 7 is by far the worst idrive in years. The flat button concept along with the massive bugs do not have me eager to upgrade.
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I think the updates in August are great.

x3 M40
x4 M40

both are getting more HP and a different B58 engine (o1) - same as M340 has
382HP (which feels more like 400HP), plus
Live cockpit and I drive 7 with some new tech plus
New seats and some colors
Is this just wishful thinking? Only sources I find are saying color and seats only. Nothing about HP increases or Live Cockpit.

In addition to OP, I only find mention on Autoblog.

Autoblog:
The X3 and X4 add M Sport seats and new trim strips as options. Starting in August those models also get an M Sport Individual option.
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I found an official announcement. Seems like those of you wanting more power and ID7 are out of luck. https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...19?language=en
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That is exactly what is going to happen.

That is why I'm so excited about the regular 2020 x3 M40 in August
Not only it is getting a new engine - 382HP

it gets the new tech way before the M x3 gets it.

So if you spec your car with
- limited slip
- Adaptive M suspension
- New M seats
- new tech/nav HUD package (probably premium)

Who needs an X3 M
How long until we find out of this is a real thing or not?
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How long until we find out of this is a real thing or not?
This coming August/September.

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That is exactly what is going to happen.
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I found an official announcement. Seems like those of you wanting more power and ID7 are out of luck.
Everyone's guessing about what's going to happen with North American models. BMW's announcement is for European and other global markets (where, for example, they're just introducing the M340). There will be a similar announcement for the North American markets in the next month.

But if history is anything to go by (and it may or may not be) . . . BMW - in the US especially - is trying to differentiate the 3/X3 from the 4/X4. So just because the US X4 may get merino leather and M Sport seats, don't be sure the X3 will get them as well. Also, as there's no mention of X3/X4 live cockpit and ID7 in the global announcement, it's doubtful that North America will get them either at this time.

Again, this is just based on history, and like everyone else here, it's just my conjecture. We'll know more about North American vehicles within a month or so . . .

For me, I'm waiting to order a M340 or a X3/X4 M40. I've extensively driven a 330 with live cockpit and ID7 and I like it a lot. Also, I won't order a vehicle without merino leather. So, I may be SOL for another year - the M340 may not get merino in the US, and the X3/X4 may not get the new tech.
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So. To recap:

1). What we know for sure is that in the coming weeks:
  • M-Sport Seats
  • M Sport Individual equipment line

Since we see 'Sunstone metallic' now available. I should expect to see this options in days to a few weeks and these changes will be rolled into the MY2019 current build. Full press release HERE.

2) Rumors for MY2020 (August 2019 Production)
  • Updated B48TU & B58TU (which is +30hp on the B58TU, no change for B48TU)
  • Live Cockpit

In my industry, we refer to such prognostications as "vapor ware" and should not be relied upon. Also, rumors say little about regional differences, which, as history has shown us, may varied options depending on where you happen to live. Many BMW sales and long time buyers say that this is too early for LCI (life cycle impulse- mid cycle face lift of the car) as car was just released in 2018. Rumors suggest that this is a very hotly contested category and though early, these changes will happen. I am hopeful this is true. Link to future rumored changes HERE.

All that said, being this close to July - which is month ordering MY2020 should commence and all options and choices should be fully revealed - I am content to wait for ordering. (And by "content" I mean "to wait in anguish")
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All that said, being this close to July - which is month ordering MY2020 should commence and all options and choices should be fully revealed - I am content to wait for ordering. (And by "content" I mean "to wait in anguish")
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Like someone said above - BMW announcement was for global markets - so it is aimed at non US.

Spartanburg plant has a big month in August. So all the US 2020 new releases and updates will be rolled out for USA first - they simply wont make it to the rest of the world in time for August release.

In US we are going to see a lot of new stuff first:

- x5 M50
- x7 m50 both with 530 HP new V8 from 850

- New X5 M
- X5 M competition

- New model X6 with all teh engines and X6M

Most of the cars are getting the new tech (i drive 7) update as of August. That said - with I drive 7 update you still only get partial new updates. Need to wait till full LCI to get the rest of the hardware.

The true new tech cars are: M850, x5 and M340 right now - where you get the full scope of
- Best in industry self driving tech - Assistance pro with lane assist
- remote start
- Digital key card
- Full remote Connected drive package
- new comfort access
- self parking and self back out assistant
- Laser lights
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Spartanburg plant has a big month in August. So all the US 2020 new releases and updates will be rolled out for USA first - they simply wont make it to the rest of the world in time for August release.
Ilyam, you're claiming inside info I presume, so . . .
- Does the US X3/X4 M40i get live cockpit and ID7?
- Does the US X3/X4 M40i get the M340's 380hp engine?
- Does the US X3 M40i get merino interior options?
- Does the US X4 M40i get the M-sport steering wheel?
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Ilyam, you're claiming inside info I presume, so . . .
- Does the US X3/X4 M40i get live cockpit and ID7?
- Does the US X3/X4 M40i get the M340's 380hp engine?
- Does the US X3 M40i get merino interior options?
- Does the US X4 M40i get the M-sport steering wheel?
Not inside info.
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

there are people on that thread above with some inside info.

Does the US X3/X4 M40i get live cockpit and ID7? - yep
- Does the US X3/X4 M40i get the M340's 380hp engine? - yep
- Does the US X3 M40i get merino interior options? - not sure
- Does the US X4 M40i get the M-sport steering wheel?[/QUOTE] - most likely

I thought you were getting a n M 340? it is a magic car - one of the best BMW made. find the loaded one to drive with assistance pro and cooling package. (it is a true indicator of what the new M3 is going to be).
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Not inside info.
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

there are people on that thread above with some inside info.

Does the US X3/X4 M40i get live cockpit and ID7? - yep
- Does the US X3/X4 M40i get the M340's 380hp engine? - yep
- Does the US X3 M40i get merino interior options? - not sure
- Does the US X4 M40i get the M-sport steering wheel? - most likely

I thought you were getting a n M 340? it is a magic car - one of the best BMW made. find the loaded one to drive with assistance pro and cooling package. (it is a true indicator of what the new M3 is going to be).
Thanks for the info.

I haven't decided on the M340 or an X3/4. I've don't really like SUVs, however this will be a Florida/beach vehicle, so the X will be more practical. I drove a X3 and a X4 M40 and they're quite the machines. But I also want the nicer merino interior, and so far, I can't get that on the M340. So no decision yet.
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