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      04-04-2019, 02:14 PM   #45
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Discounts seem to be increasing: internet browsing this morning shows an over 26% ($22,500) discount on a new 2018 Quadrifoglio with $85,340 sticker sitting in Illinois.
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I was quoted a RV of 40%, Interest rate 1.94% on a '18 QV. List was $82k, selling price of $69k. These lease horribly.
Any more info regarding if the Alfa leases are this bad? What kind of monthly payments is ~$64k lease at those terms? I think you're still in the $1100-1200 range for 36 months which negates the discount completely. I'm hoping for $1000/mo or less lease (pre-tax) on X3M Comp.
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Any more info regarding if the Alfa leases are this bad? What kind of monthly payments is ~$64k lease at those terms? I think you're still in the $1100-1200 range for 36 months which negates the discount completely. I'm hoping for $1000/mo or less lease (pre-tax) on X3M Comp.
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Here is a current 36 mos/10k a year offer. Again one can negotiate a bit. Use it as a baseline.
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Here is a current 36 mos/10k a year offer. Again one can negotiate a bit. Use it as a baseline.
that's for a 2018 model :
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Here is a current 36 mos/10k a year offer. Again one can negotiate a bit. Use it as a baseline.
Umm.... that's 4K down before tax rag and title, plus it's an 18? That's a terrible deal.
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Any more info regarding if the Alfa leases are this bad? What kind of monthly payments is ~$64k lease at those terms? I think you're still in the $1100-1200 range for 36 months which negates the discount completely. I'm hoping for $1000/mo or less lease (pre-tax) on X3M Comp.
I think two issues are getting conflated here. Because a slew of weaker (doomed from the start) dealers went out in Jan and Feb, there is a very small inventory of 2018 Alfas that were taken back by FCA only to be auctioned to Dodge/Chrysler/Ram dealers who are now selling them very cheap, but only for a limited time since buyers are scooping them up fast. That is likely what is being seen here, and if so, they are brand new vehicles being sold as “used” and therefore not leasable. However, at those prices, they are a much better purchase as depreciation will be very limited from here.

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Here is a current 36 mos/10k a year offer. Again one can negotiate a bit. Use it as a baseline.
That is not a great deal, but consider the source, though. Alfa of Greenwich is not exactly known for dealing. However, Alfa of Boston has about 4-5 Trofeo White and Competizione Rosso Stelvio QVs that can easily be bought for $70k, and possibly lower. Being an Alfa dealer, they are still possible to lease, whereas the leftover “used” (in reality, still new) Alfas at Dodge/Chrysler/Ram dealers are discounted much more, but just not leasable. However, if you are a buyer, the deals are amazing, and once they are gone, you’ll see prices firm up considerably.
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So here is the Nürburgring laptime for the competition X3M and X4M:
7min58sec
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So here is the Nürburgring laptime for the competition X3M and X4M:
7min58sec
Same as OG M2 which is 7 seconds faster than my E92 M3. I think X6M was in low 8s right around E92.

I'll take it.
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So here is the Nürburgring laptime for the competition X3M and X4M:
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I did. It's incredible 👀. I may very well go over to the dark side, especially with the deals.
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So here is the Nürburgring laptime for the competition X3M and X4M:
7min58sec
Can you provide the reference link, SANK_CH?

I've watched the AR SQ video of Fabio Francia recording 7:51.7 - at full screen on a large monitor it looks intense. On such a challenging circuit spanning 20.8km (12.9miles) with different DAs and Drivers, a lot of variables go into these times, but still interesting to see where they place.

Would like to see videos of the X3M and X4M as they made their runs as well.


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So here is the Nürburgring laptime for the competition X3M and X4M:
7min58sec
Can you provide the reference link, SANK_CH?

I've watched the AR SQ video of Fabio Francia recording 7:51.7 - at full screen on a large monitor it looks intense. On such a challenging circuit spanning 20.8km (12.9miles) with different DAs and Drivers, a lot of variables go into these times, but still interesting to see where they place.

Would like to see videos of the X3M and X4M as they made their runs as well.

The Alfa had a cage? I wonder what other track prep went into the run and whether BMW ran the X3M stock. Not saying stock for stock the X3M would be better but could be closer.
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Hi Max Well,

Even better I can post the picture I took of the panel standing behind the X3M and X4M during a private presentation tuesday evening organised by bmw Switzerland
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The Alfa had a cage? I wonder what other track prep went into the run and whether BMW ran the X3M stock. Not saying stock for stock the X3M would be better but could be closer.
I would take that lap time with a grain of salt and a bit of suspect. Although the AR QV is more than capable, that whole lap time "run" left a bad taste in my mouth. IMO, until the "official" X3M/X4M Nurburgring run with unedited video is released, GLC 63S (W4) is top track dog.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=90

https://www.bridgetogantry.com/alfa-...ake/#more-6623

That said, all are very impressive and we are damn lucky to have many options.
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Now more than ever i' m eager to see this : https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...york-auto-show
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Now more than ever i' m eager to see this : https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...york-auto-show
Should be a good week at auto shows with the X3/4M at Shanghai as well.
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badass ride, my man. congrats and be safe.
They made me an offer I couldn't refuse. Plus the pics of the final production version of the X3M made the choice easy.
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What was the offer if you don’t mind sharing? I’m really thinking about that stelvio..x3m seems too long to wait.
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