[fangel111]

Originally Posted by goldfz8

how long does initial flash take.

~15 min

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

More stuff I didn't know I needed but now want. Would love to ride in a car that already has this flash done to see if the difference is perceivable.

[Morangers7]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

More stuff I didn't know I needed but now want. Would love to ride in a car that already has this flash done to see if the difference is perceivable.

Same

[goldfz8]

just got done with the flash and wow. Not only are the shifts instant. Driving in regular auto yields super smooth shifts you don't even feel. Hopefully track Tuesday to beat my old pr.

[Edgar_FriendlyX3M]

Originally Posted by goldfz8

just got done with the flash and wow. Not only are the shifts instant. Driving in regular auto yields super smooth shifts you don't even feel. Hopefully track Tuesday to beat my old pr.

Looking forward to hearing more about it.

[95wildtt]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

More stuff I didn't know I needed but now want. Would love to ride in a car that already has this flash done to see if the difference is perceivable.

Agree 100%

[Neophyte]

Originally Posted by goldfz8

just got done with the flash and wow. Not only are the shifts instant. Driving in regular auto yields super smooth shifts you don't even feel. Hopefully track Tuesday to beat my old pr.

Stage 3?

[goldfz8]

Yea stage 3

[Supr3me]

I flashed stage 3, +10% downshift rev match, Sportive+ in SMode, 15% launch torque and scaling, maxed torque limiters in every gear.
I'm 700WHP E40 custom tune.

For those asking if it's "perceivable"----- 😂😂😂
Shifts are lightning quick. At 1/2 or 1/3 throttle it can be a bit jerky, but not in an unpleasant way if that makes sense.

Feels like driving a racecar lol.

Oh, and I picked up a full 10th in my 0-60mph. At 2.77 now.

I ❤️ XHP.

[The1EyedPigF97]

Originally Posted by Supr3me

I flashed stage 3, +10% downshift rev match, Sportive+ in SMode, 15% launch torque and scaling, maxed torque limiters in every gear.
I'm 700WHP E40 custom tune.

For those asking if it's "perceivable"----- 😂😂😂
Shifts are lightning quick. At 1/2 or 1/3 throttle it can be a bit jerky, but not in an unpleasant way if that makes sense.

Feels like driving a racecar lol.

Oh, and I picked up a full 10th in my 0-60mph. At 2.77 now.

I ❤️ XHP.

In my testing with drag mode I have a very strong cut when it shifts to 2nd. drops all power for a good 1-2 seconds then rockets off. 0-100 went from 3.0 average to 3.6 with drag mode on.

With drag mode on my 100-200 dropped by 0.3 seconds.

I am waiting for an update from my tuner to see if its tune related or xhp related but another guy was reporting exact same issues only with drag mode on.

I will do more testing today without it to see how my 1/4 times are and if I can beat my 10.5 time i got before xhp

[goldfz8]

Interesting. I don't have timing but my street test of going 1-2-3 was very fast feeling. Race track today so I will let you know. FYI I am stock tune.

[goldfz8]

New pr, shift feels good launch feels better. It's hotter then ever with over 2k da. good results. Stage 3 with drag mode activate.

[BrockDM]

Originally Posted by goldfz8

New pr, shift feels good launch feels better. It's hotter then ever with over 2k da. good results. Stage 3 with drag mode activate.

Did you notice any hesitation on the 2-3 shift with drag mode? I saw someone claiming it was messed up but it seems to be working for you

[goldfz8]

nope. every shift felt solid. Definitely hits hard between gears.

[The1EyedPigF97]

Originally Posted by BrockDM

Did you notice any hesitation on the 2-3 shift with drag mode? I saw someone claiming it was messed up but it seems to be working for you

I reported this issue with 1-2 shift in drag mode when using launch control.

Basically lose all power for 1-2 seconds then rockets off. another guy in croatia reporting same issues. on drag mode I can not get better than a 3.5 0-100 but still run a 10.8 1/4.

I will be doing more testing tonight as my tuner is looking through it.

[BrockDM]

Interesting...

I just flashed stage 3 today and drove a good 150 miles with various speeds, throttle input and some launches.

The first 45 miles are so were pretty rough. I didnt chose any additional settings aside from the stage 3 ots map. Normal driving in D1-D3 felt fine. I cant say it was a night and day difference. It felt a little smoother on and off throttle, shifts were smooth but not really much quicker. It was good.

I switched to S3 (manual shifting) and man was it brutal. The 1-2 and 2-3 changes buck forward and back like all hell if you are partially getting on the throttle. The changes were quick but far from smooth. After 3rd it got better but 1-3 felt like absolute shit. Even after 100+ miles of various driving they didn't change. I switched to S2 drive logic thinking that could be the sweet spot, nope. Shifts are incredibly delayed and slow as hell. You press the paddle and it takes a good second and half to register.

I tried a few launches and the first one shift points were all over the place. It short shifted, cut power on the gear change etc. Complete ass. After a handful more launches the shift points got better but still very aggressive and slams gears with every change. I haven't been able to notice a measure difference in Dragy (the DA sucked today) but the drivability trade off isnt worth it for me. I'll be switching to stage 2 with the hopes its better. Maybe with later updates and revisions it will get better but this just isn't that great at all.

[Neophyte]

Originally Posted by BrockDM

Interesting...

I just flashed stage 3 today and drove a good 150 miles with various speeds, throttle input and some launches.

The first 45 miles are so were pretty rough. I didnt chose any additional settings aside from the stage 3 ots map. Normal driving in D1-D3 felt fine. I cant say it was a night and day difference. It felt a little smoother on and off throttle, shifts were smooth but not really much quicker. It was good.

I switched to S3 (manual shifting) and man was it brutal. The 1-2 and 2-3 changes buck forward and back like all hell if you are partially getting on the throttle. The changes were quick but far from smooth. After 3rd it got better but 1-3 felt like absolute shit. Even after 100+ miles of various driving they didn't change. I switched to S2 drive logic thinking that could be the sweet spot, nope. Shifts are incredibly delayed and slow as hell. You press the paddle and it takes a good second and half to register.

I tried a few launches and the first one shift points were all over the place. It short shifted, cut power on the gear change etc. Complete ass. After a handful more launches the shift points got better but still very aggressive and slams gears with every change. I haven't been able to notice a measure difference in Dragy (the DA sucked today) but the drivability trade off isnt worth it for me. I'll be switching to stage 2 with the hopes its better. Maybe with later updates and revisions it will get better but this just isn't that great at all.

This is exactly what I was afraid of. I had it on my old M235i and felt the improvement to be minimal, almost like a placebo effect, but it definitely felt jerkier.

I'll hold off for a while and maybe get it on Black Friday sale.

[The1EyedPigF97]

Originally Posted by BrockDM

Interesting...

I just flashed stage 3 today and drove a good 150 miles with various speeds, throttle input and some launches.

The first 45 miles are so were pretty rough. I didnt chose any additional settings aside from the stage 3 ots map. Normal driving in D1-D3 felt fine. I cant say it was a night and day difference. It felt a little smoother on and off throttle, shifts were smooth but not really much quicker. It was good.

I switched to S3 (manual shifting) and man was it brutal. The 1-2 and 2-3 changes buck forward and back like all hell if you are partially getting on the throttle. The changes were quick but far from smooth. After 3rd it got better but 1-3 felt like absolute shit. Even after 100+ miles of various driving they didn't change. I switched to S2 drive logic thinking that could be the sweet spot, nope. Shifts are incredibly delayed and slow as hell. You press the paddle and it takes a good second and half to register.

I tried a few launches and the first one shift points were all over the place. It short shifted, cut power on the gear change etc. Complete ass. After a handful more launches the shift points got better but still very aggressive and slams gears with every change. I haven't been able to notice a measure difference in Dragy (the DA sucked today) but the drivability trade off isnt worth it for me. I'll be switching to stage 2 with the hopes its better. Maybe with later updates and revisions it will get better but this just isn't that great at all.

I definitely saw a gain on my 100-200 from stand still runs but that 1-2 power drop/bog kills the rest of the potential gain. Stage 3 shifting is ok in higher RPM under power.

Besides that I am waiting on some tune updates before really digging into the testing more. I am hoping I can actually get some good testing in before my PI kit and controller arrives as I wont wait to install those.

[BrockDM]

Originally Posted by The1EyedPigF97

I definitely saw a gain on my 100-200 from stand still runs but that 1-2 power drop/bog kills the rest of the potential gain. Stage 3 shifting is ok in higher RPM under power.

Besides that I am waiting on some tune updates before really digging into the testing more. I am hoping I can actually get some good testing in before my PI kit and controller arrives as I wont wait to install those.

Originally Posted by Neophyte

This is exactly what I was afraid of. I had it on my old M235i and felt the improvement to be minimal, almost like a placebo effect, but it definitely felt jerkier.

I'll hold off for a while and maybe get it on Black Friday sale.

I switched to stage 2 and modified the torque values on upshifts for 1-2 and 2-3 gear changes. I set both to -10% which helped a lot with the jerkiness. It felt like the car was dropping torque for the gear shift and then ramping it back up too quickly which causes the jolt forward then back. I haven't had a chance to get on launch control and see how it reacts so I will report back when I can.

I will likely daily drive on stage 2 and save stage 3 and drag mode for the track/dragy runs. This results in relatively quick but still smooth shifts. They dont bang the gearbox hard like stage 3 does to where its felt through the entire car. I think someone else mentioned it but stage 2 is definitely the sweet spot IMO

[OrlandoAUTOwerks]

Originally Posted by BrockDM

Interesting...

I just flashed stage 3 today and drove a good 150 miles with various speeds, throttle input and some launches.

The first 45 miles are so were pretty rough. I didnt chose any additional settings aside from the stage 3 ots map. Normal driving in D1-D3 felt fine. I cant say it was a night and day difference. It felt a little smoother on and off throttle, shifts were smooth but not really much quicker. It was good.

I switched to S3 (manual shifting) and man was it brutal. The 1-2 and 2-3 changes buck forward and back like all hell if you are partially getting on the throttle. The changes were quick but far from smooth. After 3rd it got better but 1-3 felt like absolute shit. Even after 100+ miles of various driving they didn't change. I switched to S2 drive logic thinking that could be the sweet spot, nope. Shifts are incredibly delayed and slow as hell. You press the paddle and it takes a good second and half to register.

I tried a few launches and the first one shift points were all over the place. It short shifted, cut power on the gear change etc. Complete ass. After a handful more launches the shift points got better but still very aggressive and slams gears with every change. I haven't been able to notice a measure difference in Dragy (the DA sucked today) but the drivability trade off isnt worth it for me. I'll be switching to stage 2 with the hopes its better. Maybe with later updates and revisions it will get better but this just isn't that great at all.

Agreed, it's still a bit buggy from what I noticed on our 22' X3M

Originally Posted by BrockDM

I switched to stage 2 and modified the torque values on upshifts for 1-2 and 2-3 gear changes. I set both to -10% which helped a lot with the jerkiness. It felt like the car was dropping torque for the gear shift and then ramping it back up too quickly which causes the jolt forward then back. I haven't had a chance to get on launch control and see how it reacts so I will report back when I can.

I will likely daily drive on stage 2 and save stage 3 and drag mode for the track/dragy runs. This results in relatively quick but still smooth shifts. They dont bang the gearbox hard like stage 3 does to where its felt through the entire car. I think someone else mentioned it but stage 2 is definitely the sweet spot IMO

We're chatting with Paul to see which settings he recommends us to use and datalog so he can review and see whats actually happening when STG3 TCU is applied.

Great feedback Brock!

[pmark837]

Just curious, Does anyone else's stock trans feel a bit harsh in particular when in auto and it is downshifting from 4-3? It mine seems to sometimes feels a very different between 4-3 than any of the other gears as I come to a stop. No issue when using the paddles though, it almost feels as though it isn't reg matching enough. This occurs through all modes of the transmission and engine (efficient-sport plus).

[BrockDM]

Originally Posted by OrlandoAUTOwerks

Agreed, it's still a bit buggy from what I noticed on our 22' X3M

We're chatting with Paul to see which settings he recommends us to use and datalog so he can review and see whats actually happening when STG3 TCU is applied.

Great feedback Brock!

Excellent. Please report back with your findings, even if its a PM.

I'm also tuned by Paul and reached out last week. He said the best they know is the stock stage 3 settings with nothing additional. That could change with more datalogging and actually fine tuning so looking forward to that.