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      10-14-2019, 03:59 PM   #683
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No - just sharing a good deal.

I've actually cancelled my MY20 order as there were significant delays which impacted me due to handing back my current car. Picking up something entirely different on Wednesday...
Ah that's a shame. Thanks for passing it on... it really does look like a pretty good deal I hope you pick up a beauty on Wednesday!
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      10-14-2019, 07:18 PM   #684
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No - just sharing a good deal.

I've actually cancelled my MY20 order as there were significant delays which impacted me due to handing back my current car. Picking up something entirely different on Wednesday...
What kind of delays did you run into? I placed an order for a MY20 M40i last week and the dealer still hasn't given me any indication as to when I will be able to get it. The salesman I was working with told me it's typically a 2-3 week process.

Is there anybody on this forum from the US that ordered a MY20 M40i able to tell me how long the entire process took?
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      10-15-2019, 12:59 AM   #685
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What kind of delays did you run into? I placed an order for a MY20 M40i last week and the dealer still hasn't given me any indication as to when I will be able to get it. The salesman I was working with told me it's typically a 2-3 week process.

Is there anybody on this forum from the US that ordered a MY20 M40i able to tell me how long the entire process took?
I ordered a MY20 m40d on the first day they became available. I was told at that time that it would arrive mid to late September (which worked for handing back my current car).

It’s likely to be in the uk in early December now (pending Brexit bullshit).
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      10-18-2019, 09:46 AM   #686
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Hi all....Would really appreciate a view on the following deals. I think it represents good value but I haven’t bought a car in years so I could well be missing something obvious! Need to decide on which one represents better value

MY2019 M40i (3 Yr PCP, 2.9% APR)

OTR £57,614
Dealer discount £7,931
BMW FS contribution £2500
My deposit £17,373
Monthly x 35 £150
Balloon payment £26,993


MY2019 20d (3 Yr PCP, 2.9% APR)

OTR £51,393
Dealer discount £7,870
BMW FS contribution £2000
My deposit £15,409
Monthly x 35 £165
Balloon payment £22,424
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      10-19-2019, 05:52 AM   #687
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Hey guys. New buyer here. Is the finance incentive $2500 or $3500 now?
Thanks
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      10-21-2019, 05:24 PM   #688
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Does anyone know what BMW is using for its Mileage Adjustment Program on X3’s? .25/mile? What is it for the three main times; 1) before 2) during and 3) after leasing?

I’m trying to decide if leasing is right for me, at 20K miles per year.
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      10-21-2019, 06:21 PM   #689
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Does anyone know what BMW is using for its Mileage Adjustment Program on X3’s? .25/mile? What is it for the three main times; 1) before 2) during and 3) after leasing?

I’m trying to decide if leasing is right for me, at 20K miles per year.
I believe 18k per year is the max they will do upfront. Upfront it’s about .18 per mile, .25 per mile during and after lease. It doesn’t make sense financially to lease a car if you drive more than 10-15k per year. It will actually wind up being more expensive that just financing the car, especially when factoring in extended maintenance (you will run out of BMW’s free maintenance program prior to the 2 year mark), excess wear and tear, brakes, and tires.
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      10-21-2019, 06:36 PM   #690
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Hi everyone,
I'm located in the Bay Area of California and I'm interested in ordering a X3 M40i. Does anyone have any recommendations for a sales advisor in the Bay Area? If so, could you please PM me their contact info? Thanks in advance!
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      10-21-2019, 08:01 PM   #691
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Reach out to Stevens Creek BMW and ask for Ken. Tell him that Sang sent you.
Ken is the fleet manager and he can get you a good deal. Just tell him what you want in advance and if he doesn't have it, it'll get it shipped from LA (free of charge).

Good luck!
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      10-21-2019, 10:10 PM   #692
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Hi guys,

I have this quote and not sure if it's a good deal.

2020 BMW x3 xdrive30i
MSRP: $54,070
dealer price: $48,480
rebate: total $1,750 (through financing)

I am in California. Thanks!
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      10-22-2019, 12:06 PM   #693
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M40i MY2020

Thanks to everyone contributing in this thread, really insightful stuff here.

I was offered the following for a MY2020 M40i

MSRP $67870
Dealer Savings $1555
Financing Rebate $3250
for a subtotal of $63065

2.3% off MSRP, just over 7% after Rebate.

My question is: It seems that most people are shooting for between 8%-12% off MSRP.. does this factor in the Financing Rebate? Or is this 8-12% expected to come from the Dealer?
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      10-22-2019, 01:06 PM   #694
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Thanks to everyone contributing in this thread, really insightful stuff here.

I was offered the following for a MY2020 M40i

MSRP $67870
Dealer Savings $1555
Financing Rebate $3250
for a subtotal of $63065

2.3% off MSRP, just over 7% after Rebate.

My question is: It seems that most people are shooting for between 8%-12% off MSRP.. does this factor in the Financing Rebate? Or is this 8-12% expected to come from the Dealer?
Pre-incentive discount should be 8-12%
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      10-22-2019, 03:08 PM   #695
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Is there currently no pull ahead program at all?
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      10-23-2019, 12:17 AM   #696
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Is there currently no pull ahead program at all?
I asked last week and was told no in MN.
I am under 60 days, so only one pmt left.

I was told by the dealer MF is 0.00168. They need to add 40 points to make money. Signaled it was not negotiable so I walked. MSRP discount was only 4.8% at that time, too. This is MN region.

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      10-23-2019, 07:51 AM   #697
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I asked last week and was told no in MN.
I am under 60 days, so only one pmt left.

I was told by the dealer MF is 0.00168. They need to add 40 points to make money. Signaled it was not negotiable so I walked. MSRP discount was only 4.8% at that time, too. This is MN region.
Thanks for sharing.

I still have 11 payments so will have to sit and wait...

One dealer quoted 8% of MSRP before rebates right off the bat but I know for a fact that they are gonna rob me by playing with the lease numbers.
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      10-23-2019, 03:20 PM   #698
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Hey guys. New buyer here. Is the finance incentive $2500 or $3500 now?
Thanks
My dealer gave me $2500 for financing, and $1500 BMW loyalty.
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      10-24-2019, 11:09 AM   #699
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Has anyone custom ordered a 2020 X3 M40i in the midwest and seen better than 5-6% off invoice before incentives for purchase?

I get the feeling that most of the deals I have seen on the forums that are doing better than 5% under MSRP are leases, and the dealers are making money on the lease deal structure.

I have talked to a few dealers in the last week or so, none will do better than around 5% below MSRP for an ordered vehicle.

Any leads / referrals would be greatly appreciated.
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      10-25-2019, 07:06 AM   #700
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Has anyone custom ordered a 2020 X3 M40i in the midwest and seen better than 5-6% off invoice before incentives for purchase?

I get the feeling that most of the deals I have seen on the forums that are doing better than 5% under MSRP are leases, and the dealers are making money on the lease deal structure.

I have talked to a few dealers in the last week or so, none will do better than around 5% below MSRP for an ordered vehicle.

Any leads / referrals would be greatly appreciated.
I think this is what's happening. I'm trying to finance a 2020 M40i, I've called Dealers throughout Oklahoma and Texas, all of which laugh at the idea of more than 5% off MSRP before incentives. Most Dealer's offer 2.5% off MSRP straight away, and will negotiate to 4-5%.
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Has anyone custom ordered a 2020 X3 M40i in the midwest and seen better than 5-6% off invoice before incentives for purchase?

I get the feeling that most of the deals I have seen on the forums that are doing better than 5% under MSRP are leases, and the dealers are making money on the lease deal structure.

I have talked to a few dealers in the last week or so, none will do better than around 5% below MSRP for an ordered vehicle.

Any leads / referrals would be greatly appreciated.
I think this is what's happening. I'm trying to finance a 2020 M40i, I've called Dealers throughout Oklahoma and Texas, all of which laugh at the idea of more than 5% off MSRP before incentives. Most Dealer's offer 2.5% off MSRP straight away, and will negotiate to 4-5%.
Problem is you need to find a dealership with a specific car that is in showroom in stock etc...that has undesirable options or color combo and been sitting for 90 plus days. That is the unicorn to get 11-12 plus percent off plus incentive.
Very hard to get those numbers on special orders unless it's a very high volume regional dealership.
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Has anyone custom ordered a 2020 X3 M40i in the midwest and seen better than 5-6% off invoice before incentives for purchase?

I get the feeling that most of the deals I have seen on the forums that are doing better than 5% under MSRP are leases, and the dealers are making money on the lease deal structure.

I have talked to a few dealers in the last week or so, none will do better than around 5% below MSRP for an ordered vehicle.

Any leads / referrals would be greatly appreciated.
I think this is what's happening. I'm trying to finance a 2020 M40i, I've called Dealers throughout Oklahoma and Texas, all of which laugh at the idea of more than 5% off MSRP before incentives. Most Dealer's offer 2.5% off MSRP straight away, and will negotiate to 4-5%.
Problem is you need to find a dealership with a specific car that is in showroom in stock etc...that has undesirable options or color combo and been sitting for 90 plus days. That is the unicorn to get 11-12 plus percent off plus incentive.
Very hard to get those numbers on special orders unless it's a very high volume regional dealership.
Also lots of dealers across US with demo 2018s I saw a few recently. Those would move big time at 20 percent plus incentives.
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      10-25-2019, 09:17 AM   #703
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Problem is i want a 2020 (new engine, idrive and dash) loaded with a trailer hitch. not many out there, and certainly none on the lot for more than 30 days, let alone 90.

The one out there i have seen has interior trim i hate.

Thanks for at least confirming my experience is common.

FYI - every dealer i have spoken with has been willing to go to 5% under, some maybe $500 more under. I think that this is as good as you can get anywhere right now, and unfortunately it is pretty understandable/fair from what i can tell now.
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      10-25-2019, 06:34 PM   #704
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Problem is i want a 2020 (new engine, idrive and dash) loaded with a trailer hitch. not many out there, and certainly none on the lot for more than 30 days, let alone 90.

The one out there i have seen has interior trim i hate.

Thanks for at least confirming my experience is common.

FYI - every dealer i have spoken with has been willing to go to 5% under, some maybe $500 more under. I think that this is as good as you can get anywhere right now, and unfortunately it is pretty understandable/fair from what i can tell now.
I'm in the same boat, as a techie, I really want the latest and greatest iDrive/dash/engine, and for some bizarre reason my particular trim combo isn't featured in any vehicles on the lots.

Thanks for the heads up on the 5%, I was able to talk my local dealer down from 2.3% to 4.5% on my ideal build.
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