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Good to see a serious electrical vehicle from BMW. Now. If they follow the over the air software update model, similar to Tesla and create a good interstate charging infrastructure, we will have sometime more serious than the iPace.
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08-30-2018, 09:03 PM | #46 | |
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Just look at the sales they are stealing from MERCEDES, BMW, and AUDI w/ the Model 3 alone.
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BMW definitely wants you to come into the stealership.
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Not everybody can afford $55k car with back up car in their garage. In the US, majority of people lives in condo or apartment building w/o their own garage and drive Camry, Accord or minivans at $20~30k. Again, they are not a mainstream player yet. Not until they can sell $35k car and make profit out of it. It's a show off car. |
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I think it's more so they don't reveal the design ahead of time.
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Everything we’ve read about this vehicle indicates it’s a single motor vehicle, i e two wheel drive. Forget everything else. If this thing doesn’t come out with AWD after years in development it’s DOA. So I hope Bmw is listening.
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At 270 HP, you are on to something.
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The $35K T3SLA is nowhere to be seen.
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I take long road trips and want to take my EV everywhere. It wasnt practical with the previous gen, including mode S but the model 3 with 310 mile range means I have to stop once every 3.5 hours or so. Yes the stops will be a bit longer but very doable. The ix3 would have done a lot better with a 400 mile range. And little more power - hope the have a m performance or full M ix3 in the pipeline. |
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During the winther, i had 90-100km range, both are with full batteries, this was with a 1 year old i3, with 10k on the road. Drove the Jaguar i-pace last week (doing an article on it) impressive car. But yes, the echo system of the EV is the weak spot. Because a larger vehicle with a bigger battery needs more kw and or hours, than the smaller cars with less batteries in them. Tesla have a good foundation in Norway with their chargers. Having said that, CCS is coming along, with even more kw, than Tesla. Give it another 2-3 years, and they will be fullfill pretty much everyones need to charge. As for the I-pace, 1 minute was about 1 % of juice on the battery, as with a 50kw charger. Besides - the I-pace is here now, the iX3 is not here within 2020. And it looks and feels great.
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The i8 is beyond what most people want to pay for an EV and the i3, see me previous comment. I've spent some time in Stavanger...I love that town and look forward to going back. To stay on topic, I don't think I've seen an area with a greater concentration of EVs than I saw in Stavanger.
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Finally BMW, i have been nagging my dealer about this car for so long now, good to see it being tested and optimized for real world.
You can dislike Tesla or like it, it matters not but what Tesla have done is force the other car brands to take electric cars seriously, and kill some of the old myths about them, and change peoples attitude towards them. I my self am actually thinking of getting an i3s REX on leasing for 3 years with the upcoming 120 AH battery due to having already one diesel car at home we don't need two of them so for the looong trips go with the diesel and for commuting the i3s, and then after 3 years when i'm in the market for a new car again, then i can browse a lot of fun and hopefully new solid state battery cars out there and choose a good looking sedan EV with at least 500+ km in one charge. They say the years between 2020-2025 will be the electric car revolution years. So ordering one now get it in 2019 then around year 2023-2024 just pick and choose from the rest.
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As with Tesla model 3, is was bound to be a hit, IF they could handle production, well they obviously failed. And Musk if feeling the heat, the poor guy. It's kinda sad, they come up with great stuff, but didn't manage the huge demand and raising the production numbers/quality to the needed level. If BMW is serious with the 3 series EV, they could do some damage. But MB (producing PHEV one month in a year, very flexible...) and others giants aren't to serious about it, they still want to earn money = selling ICE. Selling EV, it is still early days, so it's not generating enough money to really gather interest among the "elite" car players. So coming up with EV is kinda more branding and marketing, than selling/producing it in huge numbers.
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