[X3rd Time Is a Charm]

Originally Posted by Leem40i

Your insurance doesn't go up because you pass vehicles. Your insurance goes up because you do it in a way that gets you caught by law enforcement. I've been driving that way for as long as I've been driving and my record is clean

How can you call someone insecure by trying to validate the reason why they bought the car they drive. If that’s how they feel ,so be it . I have a 2018 30i and it’s knowing when to make a move and I know if I’m in sports plus and pull the gear selector left into sport I can make the move. It’s knowing what your car can do .
So you’re the guy behind me that doesn’t give me enough time to move over and I almost hit passing me on the right . Oh , I enjoy my 30i and don’t need the extra power. Slow your roll .

[gphin]

For under $500 you can add 88hp to your 30i like I did with a Racechip. It's been trouble free with currently 35k miles. The vehicle is plenty quick especially in sport mode. It also weighs less than the 40i and has a smoother ride. With the looks of the M Sport package, the decision may not be so cut and dry unless you are the type who needs to be the first away from every stop light. That said, I am thoroughly enjoying my recently purchased 40i.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by Leem40i

Your insurance doesn't go up because you pass vehicles. Your insurance goes up because you do it in a way that gets you caught by law enforcement. I've been driving that way for as long as I've been driving and my record is clean

Insurance goes up because of being reckless! I'm 0-2 against semi trucks! Oh to be young, foolish, and "invincible" again!

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by X3rd Time Is a Charm

How can you call someone insecure by trying to validate the reason why they bought the car they drive. If that’s how they feel ,so be it . I have a 2018 30i and it’s knowing when to make a move and I know if I’m in sports plus and pull the gear selector left into sport I can make the move. It’s knowing what your car can do .
So you’re the guy behind me that doesn’t give me enough time to move over and I almost hit passing me on the right . Oh , I enjoy my 30i and don’t need the extra power. Slow your roll .

I'm not sure if this is typical of bimmer forums but there is quite a bit of 4-cylinder hate and it tends to be fairly lopsided due to the overwhelming number of B58 owners!

Why anyone gives 2 sh*ts about how people spend their money is beyond me!

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by hearhear

You alluded to driving in the city, and you really don’t need 6 cylinder for that. If you were daily commuting on the highway, then yes a 6 would make sense. But in town daily driving I imagine the 4 cylinder would be perfect. I’m getting my first BMW soon, the X3 30i 4 cylinder. Using it for in town daily driving mostly. For that purpose, if you’re watching your wallet, why spend several thousand more for two extra cylinders? Per the BMW US site:

4 cylinder 30i=
HORSEPOWER: 248
0-60 MPH: 6.0 SEC

6 cylinder M40i =
HORSEPOWER: 382
0-60 MPH: 4.4 SEC

You have to decide if those numbers justify the extra cash. Now what’s interesting is the fuel economy- it’s identical for both the 30i and M40i for city driving = 21 MPG. Even highway driving it’s only a 2 MPG difference.

Here's my entry for fuel economy HOF. 2 long trips in March where one time I averaged nearly 35 mpg and the other nearly 37 mpg:

This is on a 30i so I'm curious how far the M40i can go! I'm guessing the difference is more than 2 mpg!

[Leem40i]

Originally Posted by x3rd time is a charm

how can you call someone insecure by trying to validate the reason why they bought the car they drive. If that’s how they feel ,so be it . I have a 2018 30i and it’s knowing when to make a move and i know if i’m in sports plus and pull the gear selector left into sport i can make the move. It’s knowing what your car can do .
So you’re the guy behind me that doesn’t give me enough time to move over and i almost hit passing me on the right . Oh , i enjoy my 30i and don’t need the extra power. Slow your roll .

🤣🤣

[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

Here’s a slightly different perspective.

A G01 X3 30i would out drag any then-new Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, etc. from my childhood. It would probably outhandle all of them as well. Heck, a new Honda Odyssey would probably be in the running. It would take a period-specific Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. to beat that modern SUV.

We live in an era in which SUVs and minivans are far more competent than almost any performance car of yore.

This is the golden age of cars.

That said, my new M40i is parked out front. :-)

This is so true. My outgoing Honda Odyssey: ~6 sec, Ford Expedition Max: ~6 sec, X3 ~6 sec. It’s truly amazing.

Now ask what happens when they all try to go around the corner. That’s the only metric that matters to me.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

This is so true. My outgoing Honda Odyssey: ~6 sec, Ford Expedition Max: ~6 sec, X3 ~6 sec. It’s truly amazing.

Now ask what happens when they all try to go around the corner. That’s the only metric that matters to me.

What's replacing the Odyssey?

[ASAP]

the m40i is significantly faster than the 30i... albeit w a 108 mph trap speed its still not a particularly fast vehicle... its a decent all arounder... but if u want a top end warrior, only the x3m comp can compete... my old 335i on e85 would have run away from all of them... even my old m2 comp lol... but maybe i have a different perception of whats fast... 125 mph or faster in trap speed is imho what makes a car truly fast... case in point, current m3 comp doesnt do that lol...so dont listen to me

[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by EWL5

What's replacing the Odyssey?

The Expedition… needed more passenger seating and cargo space with baby #4. My driveway is so locked up I can’t even get the Bimmer out.

[glennbk]

If BMW had made a trim between the 30i and the M40i with 300-330hp, I'd have bought it instead of the M40i. I've owned a many turbo 4's in the past but nothing makes up for displacement in a 4200+ pound car; hence the BMW 6.

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by EWL5

Here's my entry for fuel economy HOF. 2 long trips in March where one time I averaged nearly 35 mpg and the other nearly 37 mpg:

This is on a 30i so I'm curious how far the M40i can go! I'm guessing the difference is more than 2 mpg!

My average consumption for the month thus far with my M40i is 29.3 MPG. My best, for a several hundred mile trip that was highway but hilly, was about 36 MPG. That was in Eco Pro for most of the trip.

That’s better than I expected, to be honest.

I was still breaking it in for much of that month, and during that trip. We’ll see how things progress.

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

This is so true. My outgoing Honda Odyssey: ~6 sec, Ford Expedition Max: ~6 sec, X3 ~6 sec. It’s truly amazing.

Now ask what happens when they all try to go around the corner. That’s the only metric that matters to me.

My guess? The X3 30i would be better on the curves than any of those dinosaurs, especially if equipped as MSport.

The Odyssey might not be too far behind them.

Now, a Porsche 911 from back then is another story…

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

My average consumption for the month thus far with my M40i is 29.3 MPG. My best, for a several hundred mile trip that was highway but hilly, was about 36 MPG. That was in Eco Pro for most of the trip.

That’s better than I expected, to be honest.

I was still breaking it in for much of that month, and during that trip. We’ll see how things progress.

Wow, that’s awesome!

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

The Expedition… needed more passenger seating and cargo space with baby #4. My driveway is so locked up I can’t even get the Bimmer out.

Living for others changes perspectives, don’t it?

[mikenice12]

I was in the same boat. I have a 2017 x3 that had a few issues, loved the way it drove and was thinking of upgrading to a new x3, but it was love at first drive with the x40i. I kept both and won’t look back, best all around car I’ve ever had, hands down!

[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

My guess? The X3 30i would be better on the curves than any of those dinosaurs, especially if equipped as MSport.

The Odyssey might not be too far behind them.

Now, a Porsche 911 from back then is another story…

M Sport is only cosmetics, but trounces is the word you’re looking for.

Followed the X3 up a mountain road in the Odyssey. It’s not even a fair match. I was giving it my absolute best in the van and couldn’t keep up with my wife who was handicapped by carsick passengers with her.

Originally Posted by EWL5

Living for others changes perspectives, don’t it?

Sure does. We sold a 328i coupe for those urchins.

[Rottweiler]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

Sure does. We sold a 328i coupe for those urchins

“urchins” ~ 🏆

I bought an SAV purely out of consideration for Kima so not terribly different

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by bocabimmer

Followed the X3 up a mountain road in the Odyssey. It’s not even a fair match. I was giving it my absolute best in the van and couldn’t keep up with my wife who was handicapped by carsick passengers with her.

I’ll take your word for it. I’ve been only a passenger in Odysseys for quotidian trips. I’ve never driven one.

My greater point is that today’s vehicles (in general) are vastly superior in almost every way to those of past decades. In terms of reliability, handling, acceleration, comfort, usability, safety, and so much more, they trounce those of decades past.

What some consider a lowly base X3 30i would have been a tour de force when I was young.

My first car got 13 MPG on the highway while yielding 0-60 MPH seemingly in minutes, despite an engine with almost twice the displacement but less than 40% of the HP of my M40i. That’s without going into smog emissions and much more. At least it had an automatic choke. The first car I drove had a manual choke.

That Odyssey would have been a unicorn when I was young. An X3 30i even more so.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

I’ll take your word for it. I’ve been only a passenger in Odysseys for quotidian trips. I’ve never driven one.

My greater point is that today’s vehicles (in general) are vastly superior in almost every way to those of past decades. In terms of reliability, handling, acceleration, comfort, usability, safety, and so much more, they trounce those of decades past.

What some consider a lowly base X3 30i would have been a tour de force when I was young.

My first car got 13 MPG on the highway while yielding 0-60 MPH seemingly in minutes, despite an engine with almost twice the displacement but less than 40% of the HP of my M40i. That’s without going into smog emissions and much more. At least it had an automatic choke. The first car I drove had a manual choke.

That Odyssey would have been a unicorn when I was young. An X3 30i even more so.

We're all products of our experiences, aren't we? I'm still amazed that I can get 35+ mpg on the highway and match the '97 Sentra I used to own that was nearly 2000 lb lighter and had 133 less HP! That Sentra was nearly a 11 sec car compared to 6 sec on my current X3 (which seems to be the "comfort zone" for the majority of consumers).

https://www.edmunds.com/car-comparis...46882&veh2=626

The only way EVs are going to make a dent is if they lose some considerable weight as the range is nearly up to par now (current tech makes these two factors mutually exclusive)!

[bocabimmer]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

I’ll take your word for it. I’ve been only a passenger in Odysseys for quotidian trips. I’ve never driven one.

My greater point is that today’s vehicles (in general) are vastly superior in almost every way to those of past decades. In terms of reliability, handling, acceleration, comfort, usability, safety, and so much more, they trounce those of decades past.

What some consider a lowly base X3 30i would have been a tour de force when I was young.

My first car got 13 MPG on the highway while yielding 0-60 MPH seemingly in minutes, despite an engine with almost twice the displacement but less than 40% of the HP of my M40i. That’s without going into smog emissions and much more. At least it had an automatic choke. The first car I drove had a manual choke.

That Odyssey would have been a unicorn when I was young. An X3 30i even more so.

I think we’re agreeing. I grew up learning to drive on a 1986 Mercedes 300SDL. Talk about slow! I then moved on to a 1998 E300 Turbodiesel. My first car was a 2000 ML430. By comparison, all 7 of my BMWs have been faster.

I have no need for a car that goes faster than what a base inline 4 can accomplish now because they’re, well, fast.

What actually attracted me to BMW was the handling. Especially today when the straight line speed gap has been erased (as evidenced by the minivan), cornering is more important than ever.

BMWs of old used to all prioritize handling no matter what engine you bought. Unfortunately that has been less of a priority as they attempt to become more of a mainstream consumer machine and not performance based. But they’re still well ahead of others. That’s what keeps me coming back.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by EWL5

Here's my entry for fuel economy HOF. 2 long trips in March where one time I averaged nearly 35 mpg and the other nearly 37 mpg:

This is on a 30i so I'm curious how far the M40i can go! I'm guessing the difference is more than 2 mpg!

I went a different way and wanted M40 performance, but with better than 30i economy.

Around 90% of my driving is in Sport or Comfort, and I like acceleration lol