[kozzi]

Been looking for a M-Sport wheel that has all the features but there is nothing new/used on EBay (except a used damaged one) or anywhere else to be had. Looks like this is going to be a "wait for the dealer" situation. I am hoping the parts become available in early 2019.

Nice job on this clear write up.

[sor]

Originally Posted by kozzi

Been looking for a M-Sport wheel that has all the features but there is nothing new/used on EBay (except a used damaged one) or anywhere else to be had. Looks like this is going to be a "wait for the dealer" situation. I am hoping the parts become available in early 2019.

Nice job on this clear write up.

Should be several options. I’ll PM you some to review and research.

[sor]

Just a follow up on used/eBay wheels being potentially stolen. I asked one of the sellers and they responded:

No, they are not stolen, we have over 80000 parts on stock and none of them is stolen. Even one screw.
As you can see we put chassis number on each auction from donor car. You can see also that on each module you have sticker with original bmw code. Regarding to this code police can check if the parts are stolen or not.
Thats why mostly stolen parts are without this stickers.

We even have F90 M5 steering wheel on stock

So I guess you can ask for donor car info/ photos with vehicle stickers for verification.

[arciga18]

Originally Posted by sor

One wheel is shipped, one is spoken for. I have one more that has no heat and no driving assistant. PM me if you’re interested, I’ll probably hold it another week or so and then try to eBay it.

Hey Everyone,


I'm the guy that had spoken for the wheel but I did not pull the trigger.
I am buying snow tires first (CHICAGO) and other things for the X3.

Please help out SOR by buying from him here in the US vs importing via E-bay.

His detailed write up is top notch.


Thanks.

[sor]

Originally Posted by arciga18

Hey Everyone,


I'm the guy that had spoken for the wheel but I did not pull the trigger.
I am buying snow tires first (CHICAGO) and other things for the X3.

Please help out SOR by buying from him here in the US vs importing via E-bay.

His detailed write up is top notch.


Thanks.

Thanks man, not a big deal, I’ll get rid of them eventually. If not I can hang one in the garage as a trophy!

[voyagergab]

Originally Posted by sor

Thanks man, not a big deal, I’ll get rid of them eventually. If not I can hang one in the garage as a trophy!

Which version is it?

[sor]

Originally Posted by voyagergab

Which version is it?

I've got one that is basic, no heat or driving assistant, and one that is loaded up with driving assistant plus and heat.

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

Great write-up OP...

What a shame that a $60k vehicle has to have a thread like this...Guess it beats sub-frame, vanos threads...

[sor]

Originally Posted by Midwest 535i

Great write-up OP...

What a shame that a $60k vehicle has to have a thread like this...Guess it beats sub-frame, vanos threads...

Don't worry, the model is young... plenty of time for those

I've updated part 3 with coding info.

[meanmusic]

These are the Canadian prices I got from the dealer. It will be over $3000 CND when the wheel price and vibration generator are added:

How much of the regular wheel parts can be reused (e.g. buttons, bolts etc?

wheel 32-30-8-094-548: No price available item# not in the system
buttons 61-31-7-854-189: $385
button screws 32-30-6-884-696: $36.22
top cover 32-30-7-856-289: $120
connecting line 61-12-8-038-912: $76.38
trim 32-30-7-856-291: $205.99
hex bolt 32-30-6-795-924: $4.21
screws 32-30-8-090-405: $35.80
airbag 32-30-8-091-251: $1610
control electronics 61-31-7-857-778: $395
vibration generator 61-31-7-856-691: Forgot to ask

Originally Posted by TonySCV

Thanks so much for putting this together. So basically, if I want to do this swap (I have DAP + heated steering), I would need to order all of these parts:

wheel 32-30-8-094-548
buttons 61-31-7-854-189
button screws 32-30-6-884-696
top cover 32-30-7-856-289
connecting line 61-12-8-038-912
trim 32-30-7-856-291
hex bolt 32-30-6-795-924
screws 32-30-8-090-405
airbag (possible alternate 2017 part 32 30 7 855 725) 32-30-8-091-251
control electronics 61-31-7-857-778
vibration generator 61-31-7-856-691

and find someone who will install them. Correct?

Am I correct that coding will NOT be required given it's a swap with no feature changes?

[sor]

Not much can be reused. The buttons are very similar, but there’s a piece that extends to the airbag that is a different shape. The mounts inside may be different too. The connecting lines are different. The screws are the same, and the touch sensor electronic box is the same (but is not on the list because of that).

[mspringer]

I wonder what BMW's actual cost is. I remember when E46 M3s were blowing up motors in 2001, after BMW finally admitted it was their issue and had to pay for replacements the listed price of the engine went from about $21K to $8K. This decrease in price reduced the size of write down the Company had to take, and also indicated how much markup there usually is the price of components. I think the most help we early adopters can hope for from BMW (if any) is for the wheels to be provided at cost.

[kozzi]

Originally Posted by mspringer

I wonder what BMW's actual cost is. I remember when E46 M3s were blowing up motors in 2001, after BMW finally admitted it was their issue and had to pay for replacements the listed price of the engine went from about $21K to $8K. This decrease in price reduced the size of write down the Company had to take, and also indicated how much markup there usually is the price of components. I think the most help we early adopters can hope for from BMW (if any) is for the wheels to be provided at cost.

You could also try and negotiate with your dealer about eventually including the official updated M-Sport Steering Wheel for the G01 in the price that the rest of the world market received when it becomes available to the US.

[meanmusic]

The wheel part numbers don't exist in the dealer systems. It seems to only be available for production right now. Even in Europe.

Originally Posted by meanmusic

These are the Canadian prices I got from the dealer. It will be over $3000 CND when the wheel price and vibration generator are added:

How much of the regular wheel parts can be reused (e.g. buttons, bolts etc?

wheel 32-30-8-094-548: No price available item# not in the system
buttons 61-31-7-854-189: $385
button screws 32-30-6-884-696: $36.22
top cover 32-30-7-856-289: $120
connecting line 61-12-8-038-912: $76.38
trim 32-30-7-856-291: $205.99
hex bolt 32-30-6-795-924: $4.21
screws 32-30-8-090-405: $35.80
airbag 32-30-8-091-251: $1610
control electronics 61-31-7-857-778: $395
vibration generator 61-31-7-856-691: Forgot to ask

[Max Well]

You sure did a great job with your new wheel, sor. For a fair number of us without your skillset or who don't wish to put a few thousand dollars into it, a leather wrap seems like the next best option. There is a company which apparently makes some higher-end wraps - http://www.redlinegoods.com/SteeringWheelCover.php . Although they don't stock one for the G01, they indicate if a wheel cover isn't sold by them they will give someone a brand new leather wrap for free if they can have the stock part sent to them so they can make one and have an instruction manual produced. The fine print indicates they keep the stock leather boot, but needless to say they shouldn't expect to keep a steering wheel I wouldn't think. Reviewing some of their examples for BMW wheel covers they look pretty good.

Do you have your old wheel lying around somewhere? I suspect they'd have a high volume of US customers if a quality custom one for the G01 could be produced!

[sor]

Sure, I wouldn’t be opposed to sending in my old wheel, but I’d give another forum member the opportunity to claim the free cover first. I assume you send in a wheel and get a wrapped wheel returned after they do their thing with it.

If someone wants to claim the free wheel wrap, doesn’t want to go without a wheel for awhile, and is comfortable with doing a steering wheel swap, we can arrange something where I send my wheel in, they return it wrapped to you, you swap wheels and send me your old one.

I also still have one last M sport wheel, I suppose we could get a wrap made for that as well!

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by sor

Sure, I wouldn’t be opposed to sending in my old wheel, but I’d give another forum member the opportunity to claim the free cover first. I assume you send in a wheel and get a wrapped wheel returned after they do their thing with it.

If someone wants to claim the free wheel wrap, doesn’t want to go without a wheel for awhile, and is comfortable with doing a steering wheel swap, we can arrange something where I send my wheel in, they return it wrapped to you, you swap wheels and send me your old one.

I also still have one last M sport wheel, I suppose we could get a wrap made for that as well!

Thank you, sor, a very generous and thoughtful offer, but I was wondering if your spare non-MSport wheel could just serve as the template for Redline Goods to develop/produce the design so they can offer the leather cover as a product to be purchased on their website. Ideally if they had your extra MSport wheel they could get the design almost exact, at least as far as the leather and thickness aspect, but they might be able to do it from just photos.

It appears they sell for less than $150, so if they can get it right, we can just order one. And if we can't figure out how to install it (seems they take the front plate off so it goes behind?) or get someone locally to assist then we're not out much - certainly worth a try for that amount IMHO. The stitching I could handle, but not taking apart the wheel like you! And I would think it would be great marketing for them - where else can you find such a large group of enthusiastic BMW steering wheel fans!

Just wanted to throw this idea out there to see if seems feasible to look into, but I don't want you out anything for your time or mailing etc. Would need to see how many might be interested too, I guess.

[sor]

I understand. I just wouldn’t want to take the free one if someone else is willing to remove and send in their wheel.

I imagine they provide some thin plastic tool and expect you to tuck the edges under the front wheel trim. At a minimum you have to remove airbag and paddle shifters to take off that front trim, that’s a pretty high barrier to installation.

[BMWDude2018]

Originally Posted by sor

I understand. I just wouldn’t want to take the free one if someone else is willing to remove and send in their wheel.

I imagine they provide some thin plastic tool and expect you to tuck the edges under the front wheel trim. At a minimum you have to remove airbag and paddle shifters to take off that front trim, that’s a pretty high barrier to installation.

Right. So, it's not all that different than an actual wheel swap.

However, if one is satisfied with the aesthetics of the standard sport wheel, then a rewrap is a good way to go. Personally, I think the standard wheel looks like a Camry or a Nissan Rogue wheel, yuck. Being that this is the one thing that I will use every time I get into the car, I didn't want to make sacrifices.

https://goo.gl/images/WfDwi3

https://goo.gl/images/s5jeHm

People spend money all the time to mod their cars. In the past, I've left most things stock except for a cold air intake, a lowering kit for my E46, and tinting windows. I'm just viewing this as another mod.

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by sor

I understand. I just wouldn’t want to take the free one if someone else is willing to remove and send in their wheel. I imagine they provide some thin plastic tool and expect you to tuck the edges under the front wheel trim. At a minimum you have to remove airbag and paddle shifters to take off that front trim, that’s a pretty high barrier to installation.

You are most gracious, Sir, but not only should you get the free one but the forum should also start a PayPal fund to allow you to continue your experiments!

Seriously, though, I hadn't thought about just tucking the leather underneath with a tool, but you've been inside the wheel and would know if that would suffice. I would like for it to look tight and be a custom fit, so if they can manage such with the expectation only that the end-consumer have a working knowledge of proper stitching techniques, then I think this is definitely a reasonable consideration. Thanks again.

[sor]

Oh wow, I looked at the instructions and they do expect you to remove the wheel. Not only that, it isn’t just a cover like I thought it might be, you cut off the old leather and replace it. It requires full disassembly, and with the leather removal you’d also be dealing with heating elements and touch sensors.

I have seen similar covers that stitch together easily and simply slip over the existing wheel. That would also thicken the wheel a bit. The edges are pre-stitched and you just run a thread through the pre stitched loops like a slalom and tighten it up. I thought this would be similar.

[Max Well]

Originally Posted by sor

Oh wow, I looked at the instructions and they do expect you to remove the wheel. Not only that, it isn’t just a cover like I thought it might be, you cut off the old leather and replace it. It requires full disassembly, and with the leather removal you’d also be dealing with heating elements and touch sensors.

I have seen similar covers that stitch together easily and simply slip over the existing wheel. That would also thicken the wheel a bit. The edges are pre-stitched and you just run a thread through the pre stitched loops like a slalom and tighten it up. I thought this would be similar.

I was also thinking the latter, where one would just stitch their product over our existing wheel. That would improve the thickness and solve one of the major issues with circumference. For $150 would be worth a try as their product has a good look, but I'm not going down that removal of wheel for two days, ...

Thanks, though!