FTP Chargepipe and Intake pipe with BMS intake pod

_ink · 07-28-2019, 02:52 AM

I literally just stumbled upon the availablity of this on another members build thread. So I'm creating its own thread so it's easier to search and for related questions.

Overall, the items are high quality and 100% perfect fitment, from the c-clip attachments, to the various sensors and PCV hoses, everything fit and lined up like a glove. The aluminium pipe and it's welds were nice and clean on the topside and the inside also.

I wanted to do these mods at a minimum before adding the stage 2 MHD tune to it.

FTP intake

The stock intake has so many redundant intake resonators/chambers which are completely useless (to me), and are most likely just there to keep the intake sound/noise in check. The FTP intake pipe eliminates all these extra plastic chambers, making the airpath much more direct. I would say I did notice a change in the intake sound (with the stock inclosed intake), as I installed this part first it was easier for me to notice this.

You can see comparison pics on their website: https://www.ftpmotorsport.com.tw/pro...-intake-pipe-1

Install: 6/10, hardest part is removing the fidly c-clip, and the stock silicon coupler from the lower intake pipe.

FTP Chargepipe

The only real visual difference I could pick up on the FTP chargepipe, is that it looks wider than stock from the throttle body (upper section of the pipe), the lower chargepipe looks pretty much the same as stock. Other than that, it's also got 2 meth bungs. The entire unit is supposed to mainly promote better throttle response - This was hard for me to gauge as I had just installed the ER downpipe not long ago, and also installed the BMS intake at the same time of this install, so I can't comment on that, but others have report positive throttle response outcomes. Come to think of it, I do 'jump' off the line now, but that may be due to being in sports plus mode more often.

Once it's all installed, you can barely see it with the engine cover on. More visible with the cover off.

Install: 6/10, hardest part is again the c-clip, the c-clips are different on the intake vs CP, and this one was much harder to pop out.

BMS intake

Very straight forward, lots of people have had this installed, It came with no instructions and the mounting bracket took me longer than it should to work out, I wasn't able to find a photo of the bracket placement online, so hopefully this helps someone.

I love the sound of this on spool up, and especially more so on high load acceleration! Very happy that she' definitely singing at her maximum potential now.

Install: 1.5/10, the 0.5 is for not being able to find the bracket mounting straight away or online

ParadigmDawg · 07-29-2019, 09:21 AM

There are several post on here showing how to install the BMS intake.

Just for reference, I conducted a lot of test runs using my Dragy with the stock intake and filter, a drop in filter and the BMS. The stock setup ran faster 0-60 and 1/8 mile runs than the other two systems.

The drop in was really close to stock and the BMS was on average 0.23 seconds slower 0-60 and 0.34 slower in the 1/8 mile. It is just sucking in way too much hot air under the hood. It does sound good though.

808ron · 07-29-2019, 01:08 PM

Nice write up! On the FTP intake and CP how long did that take to install?

_ink · 07-29-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg

There are several post on here showing how to install the BMS intake.

Just for reference, I conducted a lot of test runs using my Dragy with the stock intake and filter, a drop in filter and the BMS. The stock setup ran faster 0-60 and 1/8 mile runs than the other two systems.

The drop in was really close to stock and the BMS was on average 0.23 seconds slower 0-60 and 0.34 slower in the 1/8 mile. It is just sucking in way too much hot air under the hood. It does sound good though.

You're probably right on the install posts, they're just scattered all over which makes it harder than it should be to search using Google or the forums search function.

I have read your informative posts on the intake, I don't plan to track or run the car down the quarter (competitively, maybe for shits and giggles), I'm also aware intakes are generally an audible mod to satisfy your ears, especially more so on turbo cars. The spool, sucking and release of air is intoxicating (that almost sounded like porn).

Do you have a tune btw?

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Originally Posted by 808ron

Nice write up! On the FTP intake and CP how long did that take to install?

Thanks mate, i'd say all up, maybe 2 hours? Alot of that is due to the c-clips as there's abit of 'macguyvering' needed on both c-clips.

GT500R · 07-29-2019, 11:02 PM

So intake installed for sound and to make the car slower? Hmmm okay whatever floats your boat.

When you do a shits and giggle run down the 1/4 let me know what you hit.

_ink · 07-30-2019, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT500R

So intake installed for sound and to make the car slower? Hmmm okay whatever floats your boat.

When you do a shits and giggle run down the 1/4 let me know what you hit.

You care that much about fractions of a second and what I do to my car to post this?

If all I cared about was how fast it went down the quarter, this car would definitely not be the vehicle of choice.

ParadigmDawg · 07-30-2019, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

You're probably right on the install posts, they're just scattered all over which makes it harder than it should be to search using Google or the forums search function.

I have read your informative posts on the intake, I don't plan to track or run the car down the quarter (competitively, maybe for shits and giggles), I'm also aware intakes are generally an audible mod to satisfy your ears, especially more so on turbo cars. The spool, sucking and release of air is intoxicating (that almost sounded like porn).

Do you have a tune btw?

My M40 was tuned with JB4 but I sold the car after 6 months or so and went back to an AMG. I just hang out on this form still because it is cool.

kingmonkeyjr · 07-30-2019, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

You're probably right on the install posts, they're just scattered all over which makes it harder than it should be to search using Google or the forums search function.

I have read your informative posts on the intake, I don't plan to track or run the car down the quarter (competitively, maybe for shits and giggles), I'm also aware intakes are generally an audible mod to satisfy your ears, especially more so on turbo cars. The spool, sucking and release of air is intoxicating (that almost sounded like porn).

Do you have a tune btw?

My M40 was tuned with JB4 but I sold the car after 6 months or so and went back to an AMG. I just hang out on this form still because it is cool.

It is way more active than the AMG forums. GLC forum is a bunch of people complaining of rattling opposed of talking about the sweet V8 noise

GT500R · 07-30-2019, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

You care that much about fractions of a second and what I do to my car to post this?

If all I cared about was how fast it went down the quarter, this car would definitely not be the vehicle of choice.

Fractions I wouldn't care, we are talking tenths of a second which is quite a bit.

Enjoy the sound

Jayf30 · 07-30-2019, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT500R

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

You care that much about fractions of a second and what I do to my car to post this?

If all I cared about was how fast it went down the quarter, this car would definitely not be the vehicle of choice.

Fractions I wouldn't care, we are talking tenths of a second which is quite a bit.

Enjoy the sound

Not going to lie, I've been contemplating the bms intake for a while now just for sound lol

_ink · 07-30-2019, 05:51 PM

You could choose to run the intake only in the cooler months if you prefer, it literally won't take more than 5 minutes for a total swap from the BMS to Stock airbox.

I've touched the filter and felt the temperature in the area by hand after a long drive, and both were still cool to the touch.

Do you guys have the attached circled part attached to your intake? When I initially installed the BMS intake and fired up the car to make sure everything was running fine, I removed that part, and the heat in the filter area was pretty intense (after only running for 2 mins). I put it back on and the difference it made was pretty significant, so safe to say that it's staying put!

kingmonkeyjr · 07-30-2019, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

You could choose to run the intake only in the cooler months if you prefer, it literally won't take more than 5 minutes for a total swap from the BMS to Stock airbox.

I've touched the filter and felt the temperature in the area by hand after a long drive, and both were still cool to the touch.

Do you guys have the attached circled part attached to your intake? When I initially installed the BMS intake and fired up the car to make sure everything was running fine, I removed that part, and the heat in the filter area was pretty intense (after only running for 2 mins). I put it back on and the difference it made was pretty significant, so safe to say that it's staying put!

I left that box in there just so I didn't have to store it anywhere. It doesn't have a use without the stock intake pipe. It is just a silencer to kill even more noise coming from the turbo

_ink · 07-30-2019, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kingmonkeyjr

I left that box in there just so I didn't have to store it anywhere. It doesn't have a use without the stock intake pipe. It is just a silencer to kill even more noise coming from the turbo

It's being used as a heat shield in my scenario.

Try removing it and placing your hand in that area (closer to the intake) and feel how bloody hot it gets there without it.

jcorallo · 08-04-2019, 04:48 PM

Hello All. I've been modding for years. So............ on these types of cars the computer will adjust for minor changes just like your AEM cold air intake on your Blue 99 Civic Si that sounded awesome when that bitch hit VTEC...But actually not as well as that civic. See they are factory tuned for how they come. So i went ahead and got the FTP intake pipe and not the charge pipe because unless I up the HP or get a new turbo I didn't see a need for the charge pipe. I got the intake pipe to basically get rid of the 2 resonator boxes and have a smooth flow. Our cars can deal with that and they can also deal with a panel filter replacement but AFE doesn't have one out yet, So I am still running the stock one but took that extra foam piece off. With a cone filter you will suck in more hot air and You WILL need a tune. They are not bad they just need to be tuned. Same as my WRX - cobb cone filter NEEDED to be tuned.

I would advise on keeping the resonator box in place for the heat shield benefit. Here is what I did with a dremel.

Enjoy!

808ron · 09-23-2019, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

You could choose to run the intake only in the cooler months if you prefer, it literally won't take more than 5 minutes for a total swap from the BMS to Stock airbox.

I've touched the filter and felt the temperature in the area by hand after a long drive, and both were still cool to the touch.

Do you guys have the attached circled part attached to your intake? When I initially installed the BMS intake and fired up the car to make sure everything was running fine, I removed that part, and the heat in the filter area was pretty intense (after only running for 2 mins). I put it back on and the difference it made was pretty significant, so safe to say that it's staying put!

Apologies for digging up an old thread but with my BMS intake on i just realized that box is still connected to a lower part of my stock intake system. It's BMS filter, BMS pipe for the MAF sensor, then BMW stock pipe that branches out to that circled silencer. What did you guys plug that with if you disconnected it from the system?

_ink · 09-23-2019, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808ron

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

You could choose to run the intake only in the cooler months if you prefer, it literally won't take more than 5 minutes for a total swap from the BMS to Stock airbox.

I've touched the filter and felt the temperature in the area by hand after a long drive, and both were still cool to the touch.

Do you guys have the attached circled part attached to your intake? When I initially installed the BMS intake and fired up the car to make sure everything was running fine, I removed that part, and the heat in the filter area was pretty intense (after only running for 2 mins). I put it back on and the difference it made was pretty significant, so safe to say that it's staying put!

Apologies for digging up an old thread but with my BMS intake on i just realized that box is still connected to a lower part of my stock intake system. It's BMS filter, BMS pipe for the MAF sensor, then BMW stock pipe that branches out to that circled silencer. What did you guys plug that with if you disconnected it from the system?

you're fine with that setup, nothing is being pulled into the system as it's just the lower intake box.

808ron · 09-24-2019, 02:23 AM

It’s been a few months. Still happy with it?

_ink · 09-24-2019, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 808ron

It’s been a few months. Still happy with it?

Very much so, the intake pipe in combination with the BMS filter is just audio bliss to my ears! On hard throttle (with a tune) you hear the blow off flutter - this may not be for everyone, but it only happens under under acceleration and letting off the gas quickly.

I haven't looked back once.

fricfracfrank · 09-24-2019, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808ron

It’s been a few months. Still happy with it?

Very much so, the intake pipe in combination with the BMS filter is just audio bliss to my ears! On hard throttle (with a tune) you hear the blow off flutter - this may not be for everyone, but it only happens under under acceleration and letting off the gas quickly.

I haven't looked back once.

Any audio clips?

808ron · 09-24-2019, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

Very much so, the intake pipe in combination with the BMS filter is just audio bliss to my ears! On hard throttle (with a tune) you hear the blow off flutter - this may not be for everyone, but it only happens under under acceleration and letting off the gas quickly.

I haven't looked back once.

Nice, I'm a DIY guy but lazy and this looked tight. I want to do it though. Maybe in 6 months once my warranty gets closer to expiring.

lo_cheng · 09-24-2019, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

Some dumb question.
1). Intake pipe. Can I use it and keep the factory airbox? I think this is what you done as first step, correct? How long does this take to install the intake pipe when you keeping the factory airbox??

Please let me know
Thanks

_ink · 09-25-2019, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fricfracfrank

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808ron

It's been a few months. Still happy with it?

Very much so, the intake pipe in combination with the BMS filter is just audio bliss to my ears! On hard throttle (with a tune) you hear the blow off flutter - this may not be for everyone, but it only happens under under acceleration and letting off the gas quickly.

I haven't looked back once.

Any audio clips?

unfortunately not, will see what I can do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808ron

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

Very much so, the intake pipe in combination with the BMS filter is just audio bliss to my ears! On hard throttle (with a tune) you hear the blow off flutter - this may not be for everyone, but it only happens under under acceleration and letting off the gas quickly.

I haven't looked back once.

Nice, I'm a DIY guy but lazy and this looked tight. I want to do it though. Maybe in 6 months once my warranty gets closer to expiring.

I DIY'd this, and it was pretty easy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lo_cheng

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

Some dumb question.
1). Intake pipe. Can I use it and keep the factory airbox? I think this is what you done as first step, correct? How long does this take to install the intake pipe when you keeping the factory airbox??

Please let me know
Thanks

Yes you can. 30 mins max for a mechanic who knows what they are doing.

07-28-2019, 02:52 AM	#1
_ink Jedi samurai ninja turtle 619 Rep 3,021 Posts Drives: X3 M40i 2018 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 X3 M40i [0.00]	I literally just stumbled upon the availablity of this on another members build thread. So I'm creating its own thread so it's easier to search and for related questions. Overall, the items are high quality and 100% perfect fitment, from the c-clip attachments, to the various sensors and PCV hoses, everything fit and lined up like a glove. The aluminium pipe and it's welds were nice and clean on the topside and the inside also. I wanted to do these mods at a minimum before adding the stage 2 MHD tune to it. FTP intake The stock intake has so many redundant intake resonators/chambers which are completely useless (to me), and are most likely just there to keep the intake sound/noise in check. The FTP intake pipe eliminates all these extra plastic chambers, making the airpath much more direct. I would say I did notice a change in the intake sound (with the stock inclosed intake), as I installed this part first it was easier for me to notice this. You can see comparison pics on their website: https://www.ftpmotorsport.com.tw/pro...-intake-pipe-1 Install: 6/10, hardest part is removing the fidly c-clip, and the stock silicon coupler from the lower intake pipe. FTP Chargepipe The only real visual difference I could pick up on the FTP chargepipe, is that it looks wider than stock from the throttle body (upper section of the pipe), the lower chargepipe looks pretty much the same as stock. Other than that, it's also got 2 meth bungs. The entire unit is supposed to mainly promote better throttle response - This was hard for me to gauge as I had just installed the ER downpipe not long ago, and also installed the BMS intake at the same time of this install, so I can't comment on that, but others have report positive throttle response outcomes. Come to think of it, I do 'jump' off the line now, but that may be due to being in sports plus mode more often. Once it's all installed, you can barely see it with the engine cover on. More visible with the cover off. Install: 6/10, hardest part is again the c-clip, the c-clips are different on the intake vs CP, and this one was much harder to pop out. BMS intake Very straight forward, lots of people have had this installed, It came with no instructions and the mounting bracket took me longer than it should to work out, I wasn't able to find a photo of the bracket placement online, so hopefully this helps someone. I love the sound of this on spool up, and especially more so on high load acceleration! Very happy that she' definitely singing at her maximum potential now. Install: 1.5/10, the 0.5 is for not being able to find the bracket mounting straight away or online Attached Images
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