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I wrote a script to check status hourly on my computer and then send a text message to my iPhone and Apple Watch whenever the status changes. Basically it scrapes the data from the website. Sadly, their website isn’t 100% reliable — sometimes the garage won’t load — so a big part of the script is dealing with that. If the site behaved consistently it would be a lot easier.
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https://www.dmv.org/vehicle-history/vin-decoder.php - Found it https://www.bmwvin.com/ - Did Not https://www.bmwusa.com/owners-manuals.html - Nothing Yet If you scroll up on this form page you'll see the Yobyot was able to lookup the manual a couple weeks after production started and darrylo a couple weeks after it was built. Not sure if darrylo means from the start of production or once production was completed, but I'd wager things will come up in 2 - 3 weeks. |
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It seems to work much better when I use Safari on my iPhone though! Would you consider sharing the script you wrote? Would save me the time of constantly opening up the tracker |
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07-26-2018, 01:47 PM | #158 | |
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The DMV is just using standardized information to give you general information.. but they obviously can't decode the last 7 of the VIN and give you any useful information like mdecoder.com will once you're actual build data is shared downstream.
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I hope your delivery experience is better than mine, though. After my x30i was built, it sat somewhere for ~2.5 weeks, waiting for transport (to the west coast). After that, transport to the Oxnard PDC and my dealer took almost another 2 weeks. |
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I see the same endless loop sometimes. Other times it loops 3-4 times and gets in. Sometimes it works right away. Sometimes clearing BMW cookies helps. It's never reliable or consistent across any of my computers or devices. I sent in a complaint to the genius e-mail with some debug information, and they kind of blew me off. I think if more people complained they might take it seriously. Since I have seen it on Mac, PC, and iPhone browsers, including Safari, FireFox, and Chrome, I think it' obvious they have a problem on their end. |
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07-27-2018, 07:33 AM | #161 |
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2019 X3M40i my deal
Ok, first post here. Wanted to give all you wheelers and dealers a new deal to strive for! We just placed order last night. Trading in my husbands 2015 X335i.
Dark Graphite Metallic, Mocha ventilated seats, 20” bi-color wheels, dark oak trim, every package, Harmon Kardon, wireless charging, adaptive suspension 2019 X3M40i Msrp $67,720 Rebates/incentives -$4000 Dealer discount -$7320 Sale price $56,400 Just about 16.75% off Msrp Also got great trade in on 2015 Expected to start production in next week! |
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Can you share the dealer and sales rep? i am very close to order 2019 m40i as well.
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07-27-2018, 09:18 AM | #164 |
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I'm having a hard time understanding how some dealers are committing to rebates on 2019 orders (X30i and M40i) when nothing has been announced yet. I wonder if they are gambling they will be rolled over.
There are rebates on the 2019 S30i models but those have been on the lots for several months now, so it's a different set of rebates and not applicable to X30i and M40i models. |
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I was thinking about buying a 2019 sX3 but the quote the dealer gave me on incentives were actually based of 2018 models. He said they will not know what BMW is offering until August 3. I'm almost thinking I should just wait a few days and see what they're offering, then decide whether I should just buy the one they have on the lot or build one. He said the build time is about 5 weeks.
One of the other things I'm contemplating is whether or not to lease instead of purchase. Since they are not offering MSDs in the Southern region and I'm not going to just throw money away on a deposit the monthly lease payment is slightly less than purchase on a 3 year term.
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07-28-2018, 08:28 AM | #170 | |
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Mention what you have seen others getting in forums, tell them you have a need to get the best deal. Take your time. We used to lease, and I find the deals usually better when trading in. Especially if they know you will not buy another brand. Make sure you tell them you are also checking out the sq5 and your husband/wife really wants the Mercedes. I use my husband as the bad guy if I have to. Example: I really want this car, but my husband doesn’t like it, thinks it’s way too expensive so I need an amazing deal or he won’t agree. My husband wants to buy from other dealership, but I prefer yours. I need a special deal to convince him... At the end, before you agree to the already amazing deal, go into showroom, tell salesperson “ ok, I will sign right now if they can find another $200/$500... If they say no, and you are satisfied with the deal, tell them “ok, but add all weather mats, or some other small dealer added thing you may want. I love this stuff! |
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The wisdom in this approach is to focus relentlessly on the price. Price first. Price all the time. And keep asking for more. There's no need to couple it with a rationale; the dealer knows you want their best price. People who play games make it more difficult for those of us who just want to negotiate hard. This is why dealers play games back, why the whole experience is contrived and manipulative. I like it better in cultures where price negotiation is the norm and people don't need excuses to ask for more discount. Bargain hard. But cut the crap.
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My approach is to just know all the numbers and tell them up front what I'm willing to accept. If they're not down for it, next. I'll find someone who wants my money. Once I find that someone, I'll give the first guy the option to "make it right" and if he still passes, I'll just get the car where they gave me the best TOTAL deal (taking into account shipping and/or time wasted to collect the car, etc).
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I think I've discovered why I got 15% off MSRP on my MY19 M40i. And it's not due to my negotiating skills.
Suppose you're a BMW dealer and you want upcoming model year cars to be more competitive in your market. You might triage allocation slots by letting them go into production in the near future against selling them to a customer. Worst case, you configure the build with what you expect to sell long before it goes 150, take the car into inventory and pay floor plan on it. Best case, you get someone like me before it's too late to change the build who wants a custom build. You can save on floor plan and book the sale months earlier. That might help with future allocation and also makes the month it was sold in better than it would have otherwise been. That's one possible explanation for what we see here. My car was ordered by the dealer on July 4 -- two weeks before I bought it on July 22. This squares with my surprise on that Sunday, when I was shopping by phone, this dealer responded to my spreadsheet build with a vehicle inquiry report that was already 112. Other dealers had input the build I asked for bids on, but none were at 112. See the attached image, which is what the salesperson gave me today when I asked for confirmation of a week 33 build. The dealer let this allocation go to 112 three days before I bought it. What this means is that the dealers have more information about supply and demand than we do. (Surprise!) And they'll use it anyway they can. In this case, to minimize finance charges for a vehicle, make their monthly BMW-assigned quota (note the "quota" field on the report) and/or get an incremental sale from a custom build. It can also explain why I (and the woman who likes to play games) got such "great" deals while other dealers, who might be happier to take inventory onto their books, aren't offering as much discount. My takeaway from this: ask the dealer to input the build, give you the output and if it's 112, bargain harder than ever.
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