[WDE82]

Originally Posted by turbobeagle

That is just too scary. Can you ask it what the differences are between the 2021 X3 and 2022 X3?

Originally Posted by dinan5m3

This shit is (bit) legit. I'm gonna have to see how i can use this at work...

Gotta be careful with it. It’ll give blatantly incorrect information and deliver with extreme confidence.

[ContactPatch]

Originally Posted by sbt007

Thread title cracks up me up.

Does M40i much faster than 30i?
Yes it does.

This will show how does the M40i will trounce the 30i...

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/bmw...mpetition.html




(wink)

[tom2021]

I finally found a pre-owned M40i locally, with the interior and exterior color that I like.

It is a 2018 M40i with 84,405 km (52,446 miles).

I plan to trade in my 2017 X28i.

Carfax shows the last maintenance was done two years ago. And it was done by an independent shop. Prior to that, the service/maintenance was performed by the BMW dealership.

The salesman is confident that their technicians have done a thorough inspection and found no issues with the powertrain. They will replace the windshield, battery, coolant hose and install a sunroof seal. But, they don’t want to provide a CPO warranty for one year.

I am in two minds: the availability of M40i locally with the color that I like is rare, however, if something goes wrong in the near future, I will be kicking myself that I traded in my well maintained F25.

Any input: this is the car for me or I walk away?

Thanks in advance.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by tom2021

I finally found a pre-owned M40i locally, with the interior and exterior color that I like.

It is a 2018 M40i with 84,405 km (52,446 miles).

I plan to trade in my 2017 X28i.

Carfax shows the last maintenance was done two years ago. And it was done by an independent shop. Prior to that, the service/maintenance was performed by the BMW dealership.

The salesman is confident that their technicians have done a thorough inspection and found no issues with the powertrain. They will replace the windshield, battery, coolant hose and install a sunroof seal. But, they don’t want to provide a CPO warranty for one year.

I am in two minds: the availability of M40i locally with the color that I like is rare, however, if something goes wrong in the near future, I will be kicking myself that I traded in my well maintained F25.

Any input: this is the car for me or I walk away?

Thanks in advance.

I would never get rid of an older car in favor of one that's only one model year newer (that's just me)!

[IAmSpeed]

Originally Posted by tom2021

I finally found a pre-owned M40i locally, with the interior and exterior color that I like.

It is a 2018 M40i with 84,405 km (52,446 miles).

I plan to trade in my 2017 X28i.

Carfax shows the last maintenance was done two years ago. And it was done by an independent shop. Prior to that, the service/maintenance was performed by the BMW dealership.

The salesman is confident that their technicians have done a thorough inspection and found no issues with the powertrain. They will replace the windshield, battery, coolant hose and install a sunroof seal. But, they don’t want to provide a CPO warranty for one year.

I am in two minds: the availability of M40i locally with the color that I like is rare, however, if something goes wrong in the near future, I will be kicking myself that I traded in my well maintained F25.

Any input: this is the car for me or I walk away?

Thanks in advance.

Trade 2017 in for a 2018 in 2024 (!?) just out of curiosity what's the reasoning behind this thought 🤔

[mcdanielvzw]

Originally Posted by EWL5

I would never get rid of an older car in favor of one that's only one model year newer (that's just me)!

+1, especially if the car if paid off, without issues, and there isn't a huge mileage difference.

Certainly not for the 1st model year of a new generation. I prefer to go for well established models with kinks worked out. That's not to say that any car will be perfect, but I'll let others figure out what is likely to break first.

[ASAP]

different gens is why... the G01 is a different beast...

and yes... M40i does much faster than 30i

[dangerous_al]

I previously had an F30 330i (B48 250bhp) and found it smooth fast and more than enough that I didn't hanker after the 340i. When looking at the G01, if there had been an X3 30i I would have probably bought one but in the UK the choice was either a 20i with 190bhp or the M40i. I went with the M40i because the 20i just wasn't enough and I haven't regretted it, it is pretty good on fuel, much better than I expected. I have changed my driving habits though, previously I used my 3 series for all journeys, now I use my wifes Fiesta for most short journeys of less than 5 miles. As a result the M40i is averaging 35mpg after 8k miles (29mpg US) which I think is remarkable for such a powerful SUV

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by ASAP

different gens is why... the G01 is a different beast...

and yes... M40i does much faster than 30i

Yes, upgrading to a better engine is one justification but a 2018 is still "old" by today's standards. If you can't afford a MY21 M40i (or a MY22 coming off a lease), perhaps rethink getting another BMW...

[ContactPatch]

Originally Posted by dangerous_al

I previously had an F30 330i (B48 250bhp) and found it smooth fast and more than enough that I didn't hanker after the 340i. When looking at the G01, if there had been an X3 30i I would have probably bought one but in the UK the choice was either a 20i with 190bhp or the M40i. I went with the M40i because the 20i just wasn't enough and I haven't regretted it, it is pretty good on fuel, much better than I expected. I have changed my driving habits though, previously I used my 3 series for all journeys, now I use my wifes Fiesta for most short journeys of less than 5 miles. As a result the M40i is averaging 35mpg after 8k miles (29mpg US) which I think is remarkable for such a powerful SUV

Filled up the M40i the other day and the widget that shows driving range was 484 miles, that is a very long cruise on the highway before needing to fill-up again. Great power, nice sized fuel tank, it's an excellent combination that returns a great driving experience. I'm sold...

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by EWL5

Yes, upgrading to a better engine is one justification but a 2018 is still "old" by today's standards. If you can't afford a MY21 M40i (or a MY22 coming off a lease), perhaps rethink getting another BMW...

I don't know about Canada... but arguably in any country outside of the USA where labor costs for repair aren't obscene this is wildly untrue.... this specific reason is at least one factor why our insurance rates are out of control.

[tom2021]

Thank you all for responding.

Yes, the main reason is due to the engine.
I have read about the prowess of B58 engine.

[dmicah]

Originally Posted by tom2021

Thank you all for responding.

Yes, the main reason is due to the engine.
I have read about the prowess of B58 engine.

Just be aware that until 2020, M40i's had only 355 BHP. Still a beast, though.

[Dinan_Rated]

Originally Posted by dmicah

Just be aware that until 2020, M40i's had only 355 BHP. Still a beast, though.

We have all three in our home my daughter has the 2020 x3 3.0, my wife the x3m40i, and myself the x3mc and they are all night and day. Getting into the Base 3.0 x3 for me is a turtle for my style of drive and makes me miss the other two M versions. I always recommend getting the teir up if you can swing it.

I did DINAN package on my wife's 2019 x3m40i, it now has the custom TUNE for the following components, CAI, Turbo Inlet, and suspension and handling kit and it made the car a completely new car IMO. feels a lot closer to the X3mc after the mods and custom tune from DINAN. Need to dyno it, just finished the install and 13 points of Goodies to help her out lol

[Leem40i]

I own an X4 m40i and I'm currently in a loaner X3 30i. If you think the 30i is all you need then don't trust drive an m40i it's a night and day difference. The torque curve, the smoothness of the motor, the pull of having that extra torque is not even comparable to the 30i. I agree the 30i is good enough for an A to B grocery getter slow is good but like I said, don't test drive an m40i

[Leem40i]

Originally Posted by deviation01

I recently drove 30i while my m40i was in the shop. The difference is really night and day to me. Yes the 30i is not bad but top end it dies.

I always love how people that get the base engine try to justify it by making comments about people who got the M40. Nobody is seeking validation. Many people enjoy the extra performance and actually enjoy driving. Other people just like to get behind the wheel and go from A to B, pick up groceries from Mama, and drive slow in the passing lane. It's very possible for people to say they just enjoyed the 30i more and didn't need the extra power and leave it at that. Throwing in the extra comment just shows how insecure you are about your purchase.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by Leem40i

I own an X4 m40i and I'm currently in a loaner X3 30i. If you think the 30i is all you need then don't trust drive an m40i it's a night and day difference. The torque curve, the smoothness of the motor, the pull of having that extra torque is not even comparable to the 30i. I agree the 30i is good enough for an A to B grocery getter slow is good but like I said, don't test drive an m40i

Have you tried the 30i in Sport mode? It's much more responsive. I use that to enter highways off short entry ramps!

[Leem40i]

Originally Posted by hearhear

You alluded to driving in the city, and you really don’t need 6 cylinder for that. If you were daily commuting on the highway, then yes a 6 would make sense. But in town daily driving I imagine the 4 cylinder would be perfect. I’m getting my first BMW soon, the X3 30i 4 cylinder. Using it for in town daily driving mostly. For that purpose, if you’re watching your wallet, why spend several thousand more for two extra cylinders? Per the BMW US site:

4 cylinder 30i=
HORSEPOWER: 248
0-60 MPH: 6.0 SEC

6 cylinder M40i =
HORSEPOWER: 382
0-60 MPH: 4.4 SEC

You have to decide if those numbers justify the extra cash. Now what’s interesting is the fuel economy- it’s identical for both the 30i and M40i for city driving = 21 MPG. Even highway driving it’s only a 2 MPG difference.

Those numbers don't look like much on paper but it's the difference between you having to hang behind four cars that are driving slow in the passing Lane on the highway or pulling the trigger on the m40i and getting around all four of them quickly. I like to know that if I have to get out of a boxed in situation as soon as I have a gap I can pull the trigger and move out

[Leem40i]

Originally Posted by EWL5

Have you tried the 30i in Sport mode? It's much more responsive. I use that to enter highways off short entry ramps!

LOL, I only drive in sport mode and it may be a little more responsive but I really wouldn't call it sport mode. The vehicle does okay and it's what I would expect from an average SUV but by no means is it quick

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by Leem40i

Those numbers don't look like much on paper but it's the difference between you having to hang behind four cars that are driving slow in the passing Lane on the highway or pulling the trigger on the m40i and getting around all four of them quickly. I like to know that if I have to get out of a boxed in situation as soon as I have a gap I can pull the trigger and move out

I used to drive like that. My insurance is a lot lower now!

[Leem40i]

Originally Posted by EWL5

I used to drive like that. My insurance is a lot lower now!

Your insurance doesn't go up because you pass vehicles. Your insurance goes up because you do it in a way that gets you caught by law enforcement. I've been driving that way for as long as I've been driving and my record is clean

[BMWbiker]

Here’s a slightly different perspective.

A G01 X3 30i would out drag any then-new Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, etc. from my childhood. It would probably outhandle all of them as well. Heck, a new Honda Odyssey would probably be in the running. It would take a period-specific Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. to beat that modern SUV.

We live in an era in which SUVs and minivans are far more competent than almost any performance car of yore.

This is the golden age of cars.

That said, my new M40i is parked out front. :-)