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When did the model s first debut? When did the m5 first debut? It took a decade for Tesla to match decades worth of evolution of the m5. Accept that ev is here and will soon fully take over.
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I said accept that they're here. IF you want to continue to own dinosaur ICE vehicles 20-30 years from now go right ahead. I know i will keep my C8Z forever. Or as long as i'm "allowed". This whole EV thing, i like. I totally get it. And it works, for me. That's why i have a model 3.
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Let’s sum up the greenness of EVs into one quote “smoke and mirrors”. You will have nuts on both sides that are all or nothing. In 20yrs, environmentalist will finally wake up on how bad EVs are. I’ve lived long enough and majored in History to foresee what’s coming. Folks, it’s all BS. Want to make a real difference, ride a bike and use public transportation only. Have your groceries delivered and live in a multi unit condominium. These things are much more effective. Stop having kids and owning animals. Why won’t this happen on a grand scale, because people are just mostly talk and grab onto a cause to think they are making a difference while not giving up their lifestyle.
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Just last night, on 60 Minutes, Fauci Chow Mein's boss said the pandemic is over.
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09-19-2022, 05:05 PM | #118 | |
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I didn't get a model 3 because i think "it's better for the environment". I don't give 2 shits about the environment. My previous corvette had long tubes with no cats. I loved the sound and even the exhaust fumes whenever i drove it. Felt like a real race car. I got the model 3 because i love the way they drive, love the simplicity, love the speed, love the technology. It's a car club within itself, even if you want no part of it. Owning my M3 for almost a year now, i've gotten one thumbs up. From a dude in a sentra. Every other M car or BMW drives like dickheads. Cutting me off, trying to race, tail gating me. Tesla drivers always wave to each other and acknowledge each other like actual human beings. Even if you don't want that attention from them, they give it to you.
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Why is it the general sections, without moderation, inevitably turn back into the cesspool that was the Politics subforum and why is it tolerated? If it’s not already a polbait post to start with, it’s soon brigaded by the same people, like clockwork. This thread belongs in a pol section or nowhere.
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I don't care about it. Because it doesn't affect me the way it might affect others. People are too scared of change. I get it people don't want a "date" on this ban and rather just let things transition normally. My thinking is, ok even if what they're doing is wrong, what the fuck can we can do about it? NOTHING. So continue living your life, enjoying the cars you have. And then when you really can't, meaning you can't buy a new ICE car in 2035 or 2030 or whenever that is, then change your mentality and deal with it then. 2035 is so far from now. And even if 2035 was tomorrow, you still have a used market. Cars evolve so much that by the time 2035 comes, everyone would probably WANT an EV. Or definitely something hybrid. That's just how the world works.
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I know right, we should just go back to horses and carriages. At least then you could eat the horse when it died and you could burn the carriage as firewood. Stupid progress of horseless carriages. Think of the mess that we created after horses and carriages. Filling up junkyards, dead cars all over the place, etc. Never would have happened if we just stuck to horses.
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Of course we have limitations. I never said it was going to be smooth and easy. On the contrary, it's going to be tough. Worst case scenario we try, fail, learn, ten try again until we succeed. The alternative is we do nothing and nothing gets done. Time is wasted being cynical.
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Our innovation, persistence, and creativity created these options for used motor oil. The same could be said about lithium batteries in the future. The EV's lack of need for lubrication outside of transmission and differential etc, further reduces the need to recycle used oil.
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You're cooking that guy lol. You make sense. The other guy is in denial, that's why politics is always brought up in any thread, when they have no argument for the actual discussion at hand. You're definitely making this much easier on me that's for sure. I can just sit back and smile
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Antiquated tech costs more than contemporary tech. I'm not anticipating I'll need to buy a new battery for an EV while the EV is still new, I'm anticipating I'll need it when it becomes antiquated. Quote:
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taking a average cars lifespan and reducing it due to a drivetrain/technology shift is not making progress on maximizing the energy/resources that went into that car. The process for repurposing those resources is expensive and very dirty. Given the stated goal of being not-dirty, I don't see how there is progress being made. Quote:
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