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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but can we not get the black/Midrand beige two tone interior on the X3M Competition like Canada can, or is this the first option in the list (code HDJA)? Might have to rethink my choices. [IMG]undefined[/IMG]
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03-27-2019, 10:06 PM | #70 |
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So the X4M is really only $2300 more than X3M because it has standard moonroof so exec package is only $2700
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03-27-2019, 10:14 PM | #71 | |
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03-27-2019, 10:17 PM | #72 | ||
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My friends think I'm a retard not to want them on my cars so get in line. Agree with you that rust and leaks are very rare these days on newer cars. However note that you live in Dallas with mild weather and less dirty tall trees. You probably garage ur car. If you lived in New York, Boston or others areas where weather and tree debris assault your car roof daily it could/ might rust and leak over time or your headliner could sag. Not an issue if you trade in for new every few years but for a long term keeper it's a liability. My 2001 4Runner - slicktop - still own it, clean solid steel roof and original headliner. My 2004 4Runner - sunroof - barely used it. It jammed once when only 3 years old - had to have dealer unjam, align and grease the tracks. Sold that car, should have kept it even with the sunroof because V8 Not to throw gas on the fire but a few more minor (I said minor) considerations for those maybe undecided as to which to choose: 6 - IMO the full steel roof looks cleaner all one color with no big black glass rectangle 7 - if u decide to track your SUV the slicktop has more headroom for your helmet - we can all hear it already - well you know the x3M is faster than the F80M around the green hell..... 8 - should the x3M SUV become a "hit" and be very desirable and sought after on the aftermarket 15 to 20 years from now, hey u never know, then no moon roof X3Ms will be more rare and worth more money just as with E46M slicktops and E90M slicktops. Another 15 minutes of my life wasted and claimed by Bimmerpost |
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03-27-2019, 10:40 PM | #74 | |
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: At 7 and 8 .. priceless. Don't forget 9- lower center of gravity, less mass high above the ground .. The e30 M3 and the Honda above were Midwest vehicles although garaged. Man that Honda ran through mufflers ... but the heat and temps and sun in Texas , while not Phoenix bad, is at least equally good at destroying rubber windshield and sunroof seals as rust and debris in the Midwest. Both areas can have trees that leave sap/pollen/debris. To add more useless data - I also have owned three BMW e46 convertibles and each of those have been originally well cared for but out in the elements from 85k to 160k and no leaks and they still work perfectly. My Ex wife's car spent a lot of time top down time in the sun and the leather seats became trashed however. I take the 2004 E46 through the car wash whenever I can get the keys from my kid and it's perfectly dry inside. I can't tell you how impressed I am with older BMW convertible soft tops. They really are superb. Back to moon roofs, At the very least , should these 9 "dislikes " not deter X3/X4M buyers from getting the moonroof , in my estimation, if it's reasonably well cared for , owners can expect the interior to stay dry for certainly the length of time of their lease plus probably about 15 years. |
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03-27-2019, 11:23 PM | #75 |
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03-27-2019, 11:30 PM | #76 | |
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03-27-2019, 11:38 PM | #77 | |
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I still take issue with a 6 foot tall, 4000lbs "Motorsport" vehicle. All the SUVs should have kept the IS tag like the x5 4.8IS back in the day. I can't get by the branding; it leans towards accountants trying to cash in the credit from previous management and engineers that made something special. They may well be good vehicles, but the drive to put as many m badges on anything as possible is killing me and hint towards no real value anymore. Bmw is even going to start making vehicles with Benz too... all is lost.
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03-28-2019, 05:18 AM | #79 | |
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03-28-2019, 06:23 AM | #80 |
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No M Drivers Package on X4M Competition??
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03-28-2019, 06:55 AM | #81 |
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I don't see remote start as an option?...
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I'm not quite as worried about leaks, but I do not want more complexity on any of my cars, especially on something I never use. I was actually just reading a thread on M5board about guys having to replace the entire cassette just because one little tab broke. No thanks. There's no denying that cars with sunroofs are louder too, not to mention potentially more squeaks and rattles. I ruled out many E92 M3's because they had sunroofs. Having said that, I also picked a Z4M Roadster over a Coupe because when I want wind in my hair, I want it to be more than just a square opening. I guess I completely contradicted everything I just said huh? Quote:
Whether you like it or not, this is what sells. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the small M's myself, I have 3 at the moment. But if I could only own one car (not the cause) because I have a small family (also not the case), the X3M would be right there on top of the list.
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We can disagree whether you feel it's a "real M" or not whatever the hell that subjective statement means. But objectively it's an M, and there is nothing wrong with a company (M) who is the sub of a larger company, making the fastest and most performance oriented version of that model. Kind of like how BMW has done for every staple model (except the 7/8, X1/2 series) since the 80s. Now if BMW does some shit that's the equivalent of naming an SUV or a truck a 911 or a Camaro or a Mustang, then I'm 100% with you. Don't call and X3M an M3. But I don't see how a world that has an M3 AND an X3M is a bad thing.
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