04-06-2020, 08:30 PM | #67 |
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I have the exact same issues with my 2013 X3 xDrive 78K, oil pan leak, excess oil covering transfer case. Do you have any more info on these leaks? Also, my Start/Stop doesnt work most of the time for me. I am guessing somewhat it's related to the transfer case leak as car delays shifting from cold start to go.
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04-25-2020, 10:11 PM | #68 |
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It's interesting BMW approves the use of "plastic" parts in their engines. They pay engineers to calculate the MTBF on every part. In this case, a 3rd party company that manufactured the chain tensioner is possible the blame for a weak chain tensioner. Weak chain tensioner allowed chain to oscillate causing vibrations in the chain, which resulted in the likelyhood slip on the gear teeth, faster wear, and additionally caused micro cracks in the plastic guide leading to total failure of timing chain assembly and worse destroyed engine.
There are owners of older BMWs with the M54 engine with over 180K miles and they have no timing chain issues. Placing plastics parts in their engines, is like planning for failure? I would call that = "Extreme capitalism!" A longer lasting vehicle would mean less continued maintenance, and fewer sales on new vehicles. One of BMW sales tactics is to steer the consumer from the high cost of repair/s into a new vehicle. Perhaps BMW documentation will show they approved a design change request in the chain tensioner from the 3rd party company. Perhaps different spring material was suggested, perhaps mass/size of spring coils, perhaps they didn't account for heat weakening the new spring degrading it's performance causing malfunction to the chain tensioner, directly affecting the timing chains function which can lead to total loss of engine. There are many models affected by this issues, a recall would place a big dent in BMW profits. Last edited by marktwain54321; 04-25-2020 at 10:53 PM.. |
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05-10-2020, 06:30 AM | #70 |
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Currently in the market for a CPO X3 and stumbled across this thread which has me a bit worried.
I have been looking at a 2017 X3 xDrive28i with 30k already on it. Would the same issues plaguing the 2013 N20s on this thread still be common on a 2017? Last thing I want is to purchase a car only to break down and have to replace the engine in the not too distant future. |
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06-15-2020, 03:00 PM | #75 |
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As I understand there is a settlement in the works which will possibly be agreed to on 7/13/2020. Stay tuned I guess. This started in 2018. Crazy how long they can drag it out.
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07-07-2020, 11:53 AM | #79 |
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A letter was filed on 7/6/2020 in NJ Federal Court asking for a two-week extension of time for the hearing on the Settlement in this case. The new date (which may change) is 7/27/2020.
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07-08-2020, 12:55 PM | #80 |
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Full docket text for document 69:
TEXT ORDER: At the parties request, the July 13, 2020 hearing to approve the settlement is adjourned to 8/3/20 at 1:30pm.. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 7/8/20. (tjg, ) |
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We'll see what kind of settlement this turns out to be. Obvious that BMW did NOT want it going to trial so lets see what it looks like in a month I guess.
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07-08-2020, 11:36 PM | #82 |
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Eagerly awaiting the results- my engine just blew but I have an F25 X3, 73k miles
I'm about to buy an engine and replace it myself, i'm wondering what my chances are of getting reimbursed if I document everything- can anyone chime in as to DIY reimbursements? |
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07-09-2020, 07:22 AM | #83 |
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The usual language used by BMW when a warranty is extended for a part or system is that if it's repaired at a BMW Center, it's fully covered, but if repaired elsewhere, labor involved is not covered.
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07-11-2020, 11:48 AM | #84 |
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I have a piece of bad news as well
Looks like my 2013 (118k) X3's N20 engine just blew and my friend's shop just confirmed it has a missing/broken timing chain guide ... my wife was driving it and it stalled with low oil pressure warning and stopped in the middle of the highway... don't know the overall damage but it doesn't look good since I'm still trying to pay it off. The car is now sitting in my friend's shop and I need some advice about what to do with it? - Looks like the settlement is scheduled on 8/3 per sjbender and wondering if this is going to be THE date we will know the verdict? Not sure how this works at class actions. - Should I bring the car to BMW service to confirm/document the reason for engine damage caused by a broken time chain guide? I took some photos at my friend's shop and it's clearly visible (shared) and wondering if it'll be enough if I wait until the settlement date? Just trying to cover all my basis in case the verdict is on our favor. - Should I replace/fix the engine or wait until what comes out of the lawsuit? - Anything else you guys can suggest me to do? Should I reach out to BMW USA? Thanks in advance for any advice! |
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You're past the 7 year warranty extension for the timing chain guide issue and you're way past the 70k miles extension. BMW NA will likely tell you to pound sand, but it's worth a shot, you might get a sympathetic caseworker who offers you something.
If you're lucky, you didn't run it without oil pressure too long and might be able to get away with just replacing the chain guides and oil pump. If you continued to run the engine with the oil pressure warning you're probably going to have to replace the engine. Document everything well and keep track of the class action process. |
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Lucky me: In both situations, BMW NA supported repairs, financially, working w/local dealer. |
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07-22-2020, 10:37 AM | #87 |
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Here is the latest docket entry in the US District Court of NJ regarding the small claims case involving the N20 and N26 engines:
"TEXT ORDER: At the parties request, the July 13, 2020 hearing to approve the settlement is adjourned to 8/3/20 at 1:30pm.. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 7/8/20. (tjg, ) (Entered: 07/08/2020)" |
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In the N20/N26 Timing Chain Class Action, the settlement date has now been extended to September 2, 2020 by order of the court. Here's the text of the order:
"TEXT ORDER: At the parties request, the hearing scheduled for August 3, 2020 is adjourned to 9/2/20 at 11:30am. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 7/31/20. (tjg, )"
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