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No dog in the (clearly emotional) fight…but as someone who owned 21-23 foot boats for over 15 years…would never want to pull a boat with rear sag like that. Had it happen when the rear air bags went out (the first time) on my long gone '07 Denali. Boat is only a 19 footer, but the bigger concern is the "tail wagging the dog", which can be a very scary situation for short wheelbase trucks. I'm only looking at this on my phone (maybe the X3 has a longer wheelbase than I think?)…but there are a lot of safety concerns to take into consideration when towing. That pic looks very "un" assuring.
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This thread is cracking me up haha, all the experience in the world doesn't equate to real world knowledge if it's done behind a desk at a dealership, just my opinion
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Yes, just be sure to only get from your BMW dealer. Air from other sources may void the warranty on your tires.
My buddy's friend's finance manager at Alpina HQ said so.
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Thank you. That took me a second. 🤦
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Wow - never expected this thread to be on the front page, lol. Or to be as controversial and opinionated as it has. I remember there was a guy in the Stealth Hitch thread towing his air-cooled 911 on a car trailer with his X3M and he didn't catch any flack lol.
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There's less info out there on the rear diff - but the X3M uses a version of the F90 M5's rear diff which is naturally rated to higher hp/tq. Either way - definitely a valid point of concern, but generally when towing any load I'm driving like a grandpa (especially when accelerating from a stop) which should hopefully alleviate most of the stress. Quote:
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I love the X3M because it's truly a do-it-all vehicle for me. It's an M car I can drive all year round (unlike my M3 which is in storage for half the year). It's big enough to fit all of the stuff we need to get up north for the weekend. It can be just a "normal" X3 when it wants to be, which the gf appreciates on the occasion day she needs to visit the office. And, as demonstrated, it is more than capable of towing the boat when needed. There is this mindset (especially in the US) that to tow ANYTHING you need a pickup truck, and that is just simply not the case. Most of the rest of world gets by just fine towing with normal passenger cars or SUVs. I was victim to that mindset and initially had a Tacoma as my daily which was just so boring, then moved to the Jeep, and now the X3M. Quote:
Regardless, my X3M is more than halfway through the factory warranty anyways and I'm more than comfortable owning out of warranty BMWs regardless. Haven't had a single warranty issue thus far.
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I have the exact same boat. I towed it with my 22 X5 M50i from NC to NY because I purchased it in NC. What bimini top is that? The stock one is fabric.
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06-02-2022, 03:41 PM | #51 |
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Definitely voided the warranty on drivetrain, suspension, and brakes at the minimum. Probably voided the warranty on electrical/electronics and body/frame too. Even as a BMW fan, this lifelong boat owner/tower would smh seeing that overloaded setup at the ramp. I just wonder why shoehorn this creation instead of building a proper tow rig? Experienced people who tow simply don't think this is cool or smart. This only impresses towing rookies.
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Also you should have changed the roller on the trailer before ur trip. The stock roller marks up the hull. Stoltz is the roller u want
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I have been towing for 15 years - not only boats/boat trailers, but utility trailers and I owned and frequently used a tandem axle car trailer for a few years. Towing a boat/trailer with the X3M feels very similar to how it did with my GC SRT with the factory tow package. Both have a ZF 8spd trans and adaptive dampers and coil springs. Both had some rear end suspension squat when loaded. Keep bringing, keyboard warriors.
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So basically ....
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I wouldn't go so far on the warranty voided stuff. They'd have to prove that trailering did whatever the damage ended up being. The vehicle comes with the tow hitch preparation and on the German BMW website they show the hitch option with a 2400kg limit, even though it's not available in the North American market.
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Or you come back and complain that some features no longer work…that's a dead giveaway BMW will definitely know if the ECU was flashed. The dealership won't know. It's when the dealership opens a TSARA case and then BMW requests a data pull. BMW won't do a data pull unless the test plan is inconclusive or the repair is on the TC list - which requires BMW approval for the repair.
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I'm not testing it myself...I tow our boat with a big Discovery diesel. The windshield leaks and the driver side A-pillar can't seem to stay locked down but she hauls!
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This thread has been good content, throughly enjoy it. OP, we aren't paying for your amazing vehicle so as I normally say, do as you please with your things. Keyboard warriors worry about what belongs to them. I tuned my F90 well into my warranty and still went in for my visits etc, if the engine goes that's on me and I've yet to do so because a tune doesn't necesitaste me having to drive like a hooligan.
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Then you'd need to fight BMW NA, you'll probably lose. Then the threat of a lawsuit is levied. Then BMW NA is like...Ok. They have an army of lawyers on their payroll. So you'll end up spending more in legal fees than the cost of the repair. BMW NA is in cost cutting mode. If they can find a way NOT to warranty something...they are doing it.
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This thread has been extremely entertaining! The hypotheticals just flying left and right! It's awesome!
I've installed hundreds and hundreds of trailer hitches professionally on anything from Mini Coopers and Smart Cars to you name the truck and every SUV, car and mini van in between. This includes a fair number of X3's, X5's and 3 series. The vast majority of these vehicles were Caravans/Grand Caravans/Town and Country's with a 3,600lb tow capacity. The thought that a modern BMW SUV would have a voided warranty or even a failure because it towed about as much as a Grand Caravan absolutely blows my mind. This is a ridiculous argument.
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This is awesome! The S58 is a BEAST! 😎
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So what does one need to install a Stealth Hitch to tow a small motorcycle trailer for a single sport bike (1000lbs total?)?
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