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Red-Green is as you suggested -- on target or off due to braking or acceleration. White-Red is the kinda the whole thing. Dials, needles, time, mpg, etc. It made so much sense that I didn't notice at first that they're white for daytime and red for night. The mpg graph changes, too.
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Ma78, that last sounded very "Portland" . . . not criticizing, just noting . . . I might be missing the West somethin' fierce . . .
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Initial thoughts on pick up are it's much better than the Q5 which seemed to hesitate a lot more when you put your thought down
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[QUOTE=sfax;9030818]Thanks, some caveats on my comments:
Steering. A lot of you guys have lots of BMW experience and experience with larger cars. I don't have any BMW experience and I've only owned VW Golfs up until now. I expect the steering to feel different on a much heavier and bigger car than my 3-door GTI. It is different but I like it. I think if I had a 28i or a 35i I would opt for VDC but I just don't think it's necessary in a 20d. I don't intend to drive the car like a sports car so I don't need it to feel like one. If you test drive an X3 with no VDC or VSS and you don't like the steering then go for VSS or VDC if you have the budget. For me, I'm glad I didn't. Hard to understand your requirement for dynamic pack if your shying away from 'sport' then. And 19's - aren't you getting the opposite to what you want dynamically? Not sure how much faster you'd be travelling on the public highway with a 35i, the 20d seems plenty quick enough? |
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I'm not shying away from sport as you put it. I'm just saying that things like tightening up the steering with VSS and changing the gear ratios with VDC are not important to me on this car and I would only consider these options on a more powerful car. Not to mention adding another £1,100 a spec that was already over £43k.
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It's noticeable and if I was in my old car and I had selected 2nd gear and then floored the accelerator it would be quicker to react. I didn't manage to slow down from 40 to 10 without braking (not so easy in an automatic and with other cars on the road ) so this test was artificial but I'll have another look at it. I don't think there is any cause for concern though. I have also had some more time to play around with the steering and I am still 100% happy with it. I can feel the road through the tyres and taking roundabouts quickly (for example) feels natural and I get the feedback that I need. This may be due to my particular combination of servotronic steering, sports suspension and 19" alloys. Other combinations may vary.
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Oh, and I washed it today for the first time. A few things:
1. The alloys were filthy already - something to do with extra residue from the brakes when new perhaps? 2. The 19" double spokes are a little tricky to clean but I have no regrets because they look great 3. I'm 6'3" and can only just reach the middle of the top of the car when cleaning. If you're much shorter, you'll need a foot stool!
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Ha!
Had the same experiences, sfax. 1. The alloys; well, my experience with BMWs suggests that they tend to gunk up pretty fast. I'm always on the look out for something that keeps it from sticking as easily (Zaino is my current best friend). The performance of the brakes keeps me from whining too much. 2. The 309 "center gap" is gonna be rough to clean once the surface starts letting junk adhere more easily. Hoping the narrow angle will reduce the impact of that space being more dirty. 3. I had to use the step stool!! 5'-10". Damn genes. Re gears and lag. Could you really downshift your old car and get on the throttle faster than the delay of the auto doing the equivalent? From decision to act, to clutch (or manual syncro if you're on that), to gear shift, to clutch lift, to throttle application? Sometimes I think we tend to compare the last two bits and forget the rest. No?
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It's really not a problem for me but I wanted to answer the question that Ant Man had posed.
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To further complicate things on the steering comments, refer to jijioben's post here and specifically the chart and his comments. I'm not sure where a UK spec car with the dynamic package and servotronic fits into this chart but it could mean I have tighter steering at speed than you get with no servo + dyn.
http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497483 All I can say is that personally I have no problems at all with the steering feel and I'm pleased I didn't go for VDC or VSS.
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Understand you point about VDC stax as you are happy with the ride but not your VSS point (which I have ordered). Why would you not want VSS, especially when parking or on motorway? Saves £380 I guess (or £200 if you keep the servotronic).
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Re. parking this is covered by servotronic. Easier to turn the wheel at low speeds to park. Re. motorway, not sure, just seems natural and I like it. At least with VSS you have the option to change the feel whereas with just servotronic you get what you're given - but I like what I've been given so far. Also VSS includes servotronic so it has all of this and more - I think! Question is does VSS Normal mode = Servo + Dynamic package or does VSS Sport mode = servo + dyn. I have no idea I'm afraid.
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Thanks. I just assumed VSS was servotronic with bells on and as you say, provides an alternative option. For now I guess I leave it in my spec until someone who has it can update. Shout if you see that buddy.
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I'm glad you can feel the road through the steering as it sounds like you have opted for the best and most natural steering set up. I've noted this for my future purchase. |
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I have read two reviews of VSS in UK mags and neither reviewer liked it. Both nearly had the car off the road due to the car steering more than they anticpated, i.e. variable. One might though get used to it.
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That doesnt sound good Ant. Do you remember which mags? I guess the response might vary with what other options are fitted. On my Merc, the VSS is pin perfect for aiming the car regardless of speed. It almost feels as if it knows where you want it to go with mm accuracy. That is why I hoped for a speed plus super lazy parking at the slow.
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