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I'm not sure If this comparison are the right one.
I mean, i parked next to a macan the other day with my POS X1 (Yeah, i don't like it that much) It's not that much bigger, and not higher than the E84. So allthough the X4 are somewhat lower than the twin F25, it's still the larger and higher car. I don't like the interiour in either car, but the presence of the X4 is nice. The Macan is just another VAG, build upon the Q5.
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$3000 for panorama roof in Macan? The options on the Porsche is the killer...way out of the league compareing with X4 price. And the X4 is already expensive around $60k with lots of options. the million buttons in center console isn't very attractive either Macan.
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finally got to sit in an X4 and Macan, I was so surprised being 6'3" my head didnt touch the roof in the X4, however the Macan with the sunroof option I was touching ,i was like what???
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This has always been the BMW-Porsche conundrum, Porsches are usually that much cooler but oh boy are they expensive. I do still think the Macan will be way more successful for Porsche than the X4 will be for BMW.
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but congrats on the new car! enjoy the ride.
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Well equiped M-sport X4 35i vs Macan S w/ sport chrono. Options including: navi, heated seats, park assist, parking sensors, leather, m-sport/sport chrono, Sat radio, 19in wheels, 8-way power seats, metallic paint, etc... Near identical builds: X4 - $58,450 and Macan S - $60,195 Macan S is only $1,745 more. (the way I would spec the two) Last edited by M3_WC; 09-03-2014 at 04:39 PM.. |
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Add the fact that it's competitively priced and there is no other option in Porsche's lineup, the Macan should outsell the X4. Interested to see the sales after a month both have been on sale.
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I noticed you added that last part in. And there's the rub - you _can_ option a Macan to be priced equivalently to the X4, but for the Macan:
So, "yes I do!" We can spec a Porsche we would be willing to drive at the same price point as an X4, but we really can't equip one equally without spending quite a bit more.
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Infotainment and premium pacakge were included in my build. It is an almost exact like for like equipment and well optioned. -Yup, you have to pay for metallic paint. Just like any BMW. -Bose cost extra, just like Harman Kardon cost extra in the X4. -Bluetooth is standard on the Macan S. -Sat radio is included in infotainment package on the Macan S. -Dynamic Damper Control cost extra as well on the X4. Your analysis of $30k more is such a gross overestimate. There are things on the Macan you can't even get on the X4, sure cost can rise. Yes like adding $8,000 brakes. But built equally, the difference is only really a few thousand. I can do a break down of the exact options on both vehicles to show your are wrong. But honestly don't want to spent the time doing that or most likely will fall on deaf hears. |
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These guys were great. Great vid! I think both look great. I will probably go with the Macan when the time comes.
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Friend, I'm not trying to be combative, just laying out the data. Porsches get expensive really fast with the options. I agree, this debate should be over, but real quick:
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Let's move on. EDIT: I found the breakdown of Partial vs. Full Leather on the Macan. Looks like you do get the dashboard top with partial leather (can't get that on the X4, like you said), but you have to get Full Leather for the whole headrest, which you'd always get on the BMW. Who knows how this ultimately compares with an X4, pretty complex: Partial Leather package: - Steering wheel rim - Gear selector and boot - Seat centers and inner seat bolsters - Front side of headrests - Dashboard top - Center console storage compartment lid - Door armrests/handles (front and rear) Full Leather Package - Steering wheel rim and airbag module - Gear selector and boot - Seat centers, inner and outer bolsters - Front seat backrest surrounds - Headrests (front and rear) - Dashboard upper section - Dashboard lower section incl. glove compartment - Center console storage compartment lid, side surround and rear - Door armrests/handles (front and rear) - Upper and lower door panels (front and rear)
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I honestly can't get my head around the M-sport X4 front bumper, it's vile. Honestly, I'll defend pretty much everything BMW do, but an M-sport X4 goes down as not only one of the ugliest BMW's of all time, but one of the ugliest cars, period.
The X-line really is sooo much better.. even the SE would be preferable. If/when the X4 M40 comes, they better give it it's own body kit treatment. |
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I was quoted 18 months in HK for the macan s. that was probably an exaggeration as I am seeing the cars on the street now. in the end went for a f10 lci which i am very happy with (althought its a very common car here).
when i saw the macan in person, all i recall thinking was that the car is low and small--more like x1 than x3/4 in terms of exterior dimensions. but if that means it has better packaging i.e. same interior space as x4 than great but it seems impossible based on the diminutive size...
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Yes Bose and PSM cost another $2760. Harman Kardon and Dynamic Damper is another $1,850 on the X4. X4 35i -m sport -metallic paint -prem pack -tech pack -driver assist pack -heated seats -parking assist -dynamci damper -harman kardon $60,325 Macan S -metallic paint -partial leather (two tone black/red leather) -infotainment pack -prem pack -park assist -psm -sport chrono -bose $62,995 Difference of $2,670 (far from $30k) Builds are nearly identical and heavily optioned. I just don't understand the argument, that when you cross shop a Macan that you have to tack on a bunch of pricey options that are not available on the X4. I have been looking at everything from an Evoque, X4, X3, SQ5, and Macan S. I have become well-versed in this segment. I do agree on the point about leases. Porsche leases are terrible. But I always purchase my cars. |
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Currently, Porsche’s plant in Leipzig, Germany is set up to build 50,000 Macans a year. And from my point of view, BMW looks way better with a clean sporty design and interior which is not kitschy like the one in Macan. Exterior wise, Porsche plays the same design tune for 100 years now, Really boring... |
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