[TxHornX3M40iGuy]

If the X5 M50i is not at least 10K cheaper than an X5M, BMW is making a huge mistake.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by TxHornX3M40iGuy

If the X5 M50i is not at least 10K cheaper than an X5M, BMW is making a huge mistake.

it will likely be $10 cheaper but if you add any options it'll be X5M pricing so at that point there's no reason to buy on. the M550i can be optioned to within 5-6k of the M5 with the same options as a base M5 give or take a few things but people still buy both. whether or not I buy the regular 50i will depend on what they want to sell me one for. it's already been ordered for an early January delivery in SC (I want to visit the plant) so unless they try selling me it at sticker, or my test drive of a 50i with the DHP (Dynamic handling package) isn't what I want then I'll likely be buying one. I'm opting for Carbon Black this time around after seeing how good it looks in the lighting. it'll need a full ceramic coat + XPEL front to keep the SAV looking good out here.


attached is my build sheet. it'll be Carbon black over coffee brown merino, aluminum tetragon trim (I might change that to the metallic brown or stainless woven one after looking at then again). [IMG]undefined[/IMG][IMG]undefined[/IMG]

[omasou]

Opposite X5 (E70) to X4.

X5 was...

Too big
Ate too much gas
V8 cost more to repair, e.g. twice as many valve cover gaskets


My X4 actually feels roomier than X5

That said my X5 had all the "active" suspension bits and I drove it as aggressively as my M2. Besides the active dampers which the X4 has it had the active sway bars which kept the X5 flat around turns!

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by omasou

Opposite X5 (E70) to X4.

X5 was...

Too big
Ate too much gas
V8 cost more to repair, e.g. twice as many valve cover gaskets


My X4 actually feels roomier than X5

That said my X5 had all the "active" suspension bits and I drove it as aggressively as my M2. Besides the active dampers which the X4 has it had the active sway bars which kept the X5 flat around turns!

I can understand where you're coming from. I wouldn't keep the car out of warranty do repair costs aren't a concern to me. I'm glad to hear the DHP helped keep the car flat through corners which is my main concern. Since I work in the energy sector as an engineer I can't complain about fuel prices I average about 20 in my M40i right now do I'd likely see 16mpg in the 50i

[omasou]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

I can understand where you're coming from. I wouldn't keep the car out of warranty do repair costs aren't a concern to me. I'm glad to hear the DHP helped keep the car flat through corners which is my main concern. Since I work in the energy sector as an engineer I can't complain about fuel prices I average about 20 in my M40i right now do I'd likely see 16mpg in the 50i

I kept the car until 128K and I would say all repairs were expect for the mileage and age at the time. Overall, happy with the quality.

Looks like BMW calls it Active Roll Stabilization (ARS) now. My E70 had Adaptive Drive, but could have sworn it was a combination of three options. Anyway it was absolutely amazing. I took corners at speeds that I shouldn't have been able to and the car was absolutely flat (no body roll). You'll love it.

I averaged 14/15 MPG and 18 MPG HWY.

[sor]

Originally Posted by BMWGuySweden

The X3M won't be more luxurious than the m40i it will have a larger engine and be more sporty.

I feel like in the past the M3 has had more luxury options available than regular 3 series. For example, Merino leather options, extended leather, piano black trim, Etc.

Edit: I just compared the M3 to the 340i on the build site and the M3 does have more luxury options, from leather and trim to things like Icon headlights and power sun shades.

I would assume the X3M will have a bit more as well, though it will still be the same general package. There are rumors it will get the new digital dash and iDrive.

[MrPorter]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

I don't need a larger SUV, I want one. The X7 isn't worth it to me. I'm also considering a Cayenne but a decently optioned one runs well over $100K, unlike the 50i which I have fully optioned how I like for under that.

The Cayenne isn't much bigger than the X3 is it? My mother-in-law has one and our X3 feels the same.

[TxHornX3M40iGuy]

Originally Posted by MrPorter

The Cayenne isn't much bigger than the X3 is it? My mother-in-law has one and our X3 feels the same.

I saw a new Cayenne yesterday and told my wife it looked almost as small as the X3. I agree, I don't think it's a ton bigger.

[TxHornX3M40iGuy]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

it will likely be $10 cheaper but if you add any options it'll be X5M pricing so at that point there's no reason to buy on. the M550i can be optioned to within 5-6k of the M5 with the same options as a base M5 give or take a few things but people still buy both. whether or not I buy the regular 50i will depend on what they want to sell me one for. it's already been ordered for an early January delivery in SC (I want to visit the plant) so unless they try selling me it at sticker, or my test drive of a 50i with the DHP (Dynamic handling package) isn't what I want then I'll likely be buying one. I'm opting for Carbon Black this time around after seeing how good it looks in the lighting. it'll need a full ceramic coat + XPEL front to keep the SAV looking good out here.


attached is my build sheet. it'll be Carbon black over coffee brown merino, aluminum tetragon trim (I might change that to the metallic brown or stainless woven one after looking at then again). [IMG]undefined[/IMG][IMG]undefined[/IMG]

Looks like a beautiful spec. But why would you go after this one instead of waiting for the new, more badass V8 in 2020? And more importantly, I think, would be that I've seen several 2018 X5M's with less than 8000 miles selling for $80-90K. Your Spec looks to be Mid-90K at MSRP. I can't imagine you'll get that down further than $87K...

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by TxHornX3M40iGuy

Looks like a beautiful spec. But why would you go after this one instead of waiting for the new, more badass V8 in 2020? And more importantly, I think, would be that I've seen several 2018 X5M's with less than 8000 miles selling for $80-90K. Your Spec looks to be Mid-90K at MSRP. I can't imagine you'll get that down further than $87K...

I have the option to get one now and I like getting cars at launch if possible to give me the maximum possible time before a refresh so the car stays current. The cars MSRP is about $97K, I'll gladly pay $87 OTD or a little more because I'll be getting more of what I originally wanted. I just checked another one out at my dealer with the merino dash, crystal shifter etc, massaging seats (not that great but maybe on a long trip they are?). The car is much more of a luxury vehicle all around plus the inclusion of USB-C as a standard is perfect. I'd wait for an M50d but for the M50i at this point. I don't foresee waiting a year being worthwhile when I'm happy with the current offering so far. I need to drive one before making my final decision since all of the ones at my dealer are presold.

The interior has much less black glossly areas unless you're including the gear shift area but it's more of a clear type material that looks better.

[Greencat]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

...... Is anyone else considering moving to a larger SUV?

I am doing the opposite, going from a QX80 to an X3 M40i. I've owned both an X3 and X5 and, for me, both come with their own advantages and disadvantages. In the end, I was willing to trade luxury for driving excitement. The G01 is a much different X3 than my E83, on the interior, so I don't think I'll be sacrificing as much luxury as past generations.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by Greencat

I am doing the opposite, going from a QX80 to an X3 M40i. I've owned both an X3 and X5 and, for me, both come with their own advantages and disadvantages. In the end, I was willing to trade luxury for driving excitement. The G01 is a much different X3 than my E83, on the interior, so I don't think I'll be sacrificing as much luxury as past generations.

having driven both generations I agree 100%. I'm really looking for more of a true luxury vehcile without sacrificing performance or driving Dynamics. I'm hoping the G05 delivers on the driving side because it has the luxury already. I wish they had a split folding trunk on the X3 though because it's quite handy. There's not guarantee that I'll like how the G05 X5 drives and that's all I'm waiting to find out. If it's not up to what I want then I'll cancel my order.

[TxHornX3M40iGuy]

I saw them today when picking up my car. The new one x5 50i, with M Sport looked super nice. Wheels were the 21" and super nice. Inside? perfect.
I still wish it wasn't the rectangular exhaust shape...but that can easily be changed. Curious how it'll drive in comparison to ours.

[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

I have the option to get one now and I like getting cars at launch if possible to give me the maximum possible time before a refresh so the car stays current. The cars MSRP is about $97K, I'll gladly pay $87 OTD or a little more because I'll be getting more of what I originally wanted. I just checked another one out at my dealer with the merino dash, crystal shifter etc, massaging seats (not that great but maybe on a long trip they are?). The car is much more of a luxury vehicle all around plus the inclusion of USB-C as a standard is perfect. I'd wait for an M50d but for the M50i at this point. I don't foresee waiting a year being worthwhile when I'm happy with the current offering so far. I need to drive one before making my final decision since all of the ones at my dealer are presold.

The interior has much less black glossly areas unless you're including the gear shift area but it's more of a clear type material that looks better.

We wont get the M50d here in the US... at least if they go by previous history. Nice build on your X5 btw!

[nogren]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

We wont get the M50d here in the US... at least if they go by previous history. Nice build on your X5 btw!

G05 is available as 50d here at launch, so it definitely looks like you won't get it in the US.

[MarkyM]

Originally Posted by TxHornX3M40iGuy

I saw them today when picking up my car. The new one x5 50i, with M Sport looked super nice. Wheels were the 21" and super nice. Inside? perfect.
I still wish it wasn't the rectangular exhaust shape...but that can easily be changed. Curious how it'll drive in comparison to ours.

It looks to me like the exhaust tips are round but hidden behind the rectangular trimmed cut out in bumper?

I thought this looked odd when I saw a similar thing on Neighbours current RR Sport facelift, didn't imagine BMW would do the same though

[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by nogren

G05 is available as 50d here at launch, so it definitely looks like you won't get it in the US.

We may not get diesel X5 at all. They first said "no" to all diesels in the US (the 5 series Diesel was canceled after the 2018 model year, we wont get the 3 series diesel).

When word got out that there would be no X5d (which here in the US was based on the 30d I think?) they backpedaled a bit and said "No final decision has been made".

In the US they are moving full speed ahead with electrification, so I suspect that everything that was a "d" will be fully replaced by plug in hybrids (like the announced 45e).

Too bad though, as the 50d sounds like the perfect X5. I love our X5d (F15) we currently have. Good acelleration, and almost 30 MPG and we dont try to drive it to get good MPG, we "drive it"

[ParadigmDawg]

Originally Posted by BMWGuySweden

The X3M won't be more luxurious than the m40i it will have a larger engine and be more sporty.

Want to bet?

[shoptb]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

I've been enjoying my X3 M40i for a while now and it's been great. after seeing the new X5 in person I'm considering ordering one. If I go that route it would be a X5 50i with the DHP (dynamic handling package) once I confirm the ride with a few test drives. Is anyone else considering moving to a larger SUV?

Absolutely not. I love the size of the X3.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by TxHornX3M40iGuy

I saw them today when picking up my car. The new one x5 50i, with M Sport looked super nice. Wheels were the 21" and super nice. Inside? perfect.
I still wish it wasn't the rectangular exhaust shape...but that can easily be changed. Curious how it'll drive in comparison to ours.

I think they perfected the interior for it's current style with the G05 X5/ G30 3 Series and 8 series. I agree about the exhaust but the V8 does sound nice in person and this clip someone made.
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1546394

Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg

Want to bet?

I agree with you, it will be nicer. All M cars have better options becuase //M is money remember

Originally Posted by shoptb

Absolutely not. I love the size of the X3.

I don't need the space it's more of I'd like it because why not.

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by MarkyM

It looks to me like the exhaust tips are round but hidden behind the rectangular trimmed cut out in bumper?

I thought this looked odd when I saw a similar thing on Neighbours current RR Sport facelift, didn't imagine BMW would do the same though

They went with the separate bumper exhaust cover opening because in order to get both sides of the exhaust to be even, the tolerances would have to be spot on and that would cost to much money.
So they went the cheap route with the bumper cover and that way even though the exhaust tips won't be even, most would never notice it.
I have yet to see an M40i where both sides are even. The left outlet tends to hang a bit higher than right.

[TxHornX3M40iGuy]

Originally Posted by MarkyM

It looks to me like the exhaust tips are round but hidden behind the rectangular trimmed cut out in bumper?

I thought this looked odd when I saw a similar thing on Neighbours current RR Sport facelift, didn't imagine BMW would do the same though

Yes, but that basically makes the exhaust rectangular (at first glance to most people anyway). I just don't like that look. I would prefer four round large exhaust tips.
I'm not sure why they do the circular exhaust into that rectangular piece. Less work maybe than fitting the exhaust into that? Not sure.