11-25-2019, 02:51 PM | #23 |
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Do you mean X4mc?? As they are more expensive than X3mc
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11-25-2019, 03:10 PM | #24 |
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Ok, I suppose only $12k more than an X4MC. (Yes, the 4 is $3k more than a 3)
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There is no replacement for displacement, as they say. Both very impressive, but loving the torque of the M177 engine. 700Nm is more than the F10 M5 competition was.
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The BMW's tech, handling and price give it a very slight advantage IMO. But, yes, both are BEASTS!
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impressive, BMW is down on power by a sizable margin yet still pulls ahead everytime. The X5/6MC are going to be amazing if this is anything to go by.
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I will take the MB any day of the week. Those HP is like dishes on the very top of your shelf that will rarely see any light.
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I test drove a X3MC my dealer and was underwhelmed because of the turbo lag. Not a fun thing to move on the street for its class.
S58 turbo is too big to use power from at least when you're not revving it up high. In my opinion, Sacrificing response for peak hp is no wise for an M. I'm not even sure this thing is an improvement in my book over the S55, in terms of overall driving experience.
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The thing is, if you want a car that will last as a whole get the BMW. Even if the Mercedes will be better in numbers, is a rusting bucket. I will never buy a Mercedes again and they don’t even exist for me anymore. (And yes, I am an OCD car guy).
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I don’t understand the “GLC is better” argument tbh. First, the GLC coupe has only 17 cubic feet of trunk space vs. 28 in X3 M. It is also 15k more expensive. Didn’t most of us want a car that is both fast as hell but also practical and family-friendly? In fact, if acceleration is all you care about, at this price range and I would rather add 10 more k and buy the M5 that would absolutely wipe the floor with both cars in terms of 0-60 performance. Compared to the newest MB SUVs like the GLE, the interior even of the refreshed GLC looks dated and inferior. It does not have the gorgeous 12+12 digital panel of the newest MB products. In fact, MB will bring out a brand new GLC 63 in 2022.
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Tried that. Cannot get past 100mph at my nearest school zone. Too many kids to go past 100... any other suggestions?
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I always said if my F80's had AWD they would be perfect. So BMW builds an AWD S55 successor (the S58) and takes away all the low end torque and gives it lag. Why, BMW?
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