Used vs new, the eternal question. Macan Turbo vs M40i

Lux700 · 04-19-2019, 05:29 AM

Be "fair" to yourself, take your time, wait, and test drive the X3M and anything else in the equation... I can imagine that the X3M will be a pleasure to drive and own. Interiors a level up from the M40's, too.

Transfer · 04-20-2019, 07:29 PM

I drove a nice 17k mile Turbo today and was rather underwhelmed. I couldn't hear the engine to get an idea of what RPM I was at. To me that's never good. Also power was smooth and it was fast but never exciting. No real pull in acceleration either which I even get in my supposedly low torque M3. Interior was great, air suspension smooth yet agile, and it looked the part but I think I would regret the purchase.

I stopped at the BMW dealer at the same location and sat in a few M40i but they were too busy to help me or take me on a test drive. I think it looks great from outside and was roomy on the inside. Materials were not as nice as the Porsche but not a surprise there. I thought I would like cognac leather but it was way too orange for me. I couldn't find a mocha or oyster.

All in all I think I'll have to wait until I can drive an X3M and M40i so I can decide if the extra $300/mo or so is worth the M.

arube1 · 02-10-2020, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

I drove a nice 17k mile Turbo today and was rather underwhelmed. I couldn't hear the engine to get an idea of what RPM I was at. To me that's never good. Also power was smooth and it was fast but never exciting. No real pull in acceleration either which I even get in my supposedly low torque M3. Interior was great, air suspension smooth yet agile, and it looked the part but I think I would regret the purchase.

I stopped at the BMW dealer at the same location and sat in a few M40i but they were too busy to help me or take me on a test drive. I think it looks great from outside and was roomy on the inside. Materials were not as nice as the Porsche but not a surprise there. I thought I would like cognac leather but it was way too orange for me. I couldn't find a mocha or oyster.

All in all I think I'll have to wait until I can drive an X3M and M40i so I can decide if the extra $300/mo or so is worth the M.

Curious what you ended up getting if at all?

Transfer · 02-10-2020, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

I drove a nice 17k mile Turbo today and was rather underwhelmed. I couldn't hear the engine to get an idea of what RPM I was at. To me that's never good. Also power was smooth and it was fast but never exciting. No real pull in acceleration either which I even get in my supposedly low torque M3. Interior was great, air suspension smooth yet agile, and it looked the part but I think I would regret the purchase.

I stopped at the BMW dealer at the same location and sat in a few M40i but they were too busy to help me or take me on a test drive. I think it looks great from outside and was roomy on the inside. Materials were not as nice as the Porsche but not a surprise there. I thought I would like cognac leather but it was way too orange for me. I couldn't find a mocha or oyster.

All in all I think I'll have to wait until I can drive an X3M and M40i so I can decide if the extra $300/mo or so is worth the M.

Curious what you ended up getting if at all?

Leased an M340i because it's amazing and sticking with SQ5 for SUV duties for now. Will consider replacing that end of summer.

AlexFL · 02-12-2020, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

I drove a nice 17k mile Turbo today and was rather underwhelmed. I couldn't hear the engine to get an idea of what RPM I was at. To me that's never good. Also power was smooth and it was fast but never exciting. No real pull in acceleration either which I even get in my supposedly low torque M3. Interior was great, air suspension smooth yet agile, and it looked the part but I think I would regret the purchase.

I stopped at the BMW dealer at the same location and sat in a few M40i but they were too busy to help me or take me on a test drive. I think it looks great from outside and was roomy on the inside. Materials were not as nice as the Porsche but not a surprise there. I thought I would like cognac leather but it was way too orange for me. I couldn't find a mocha or oyster.

All in all I think I'll have to wait until I can drive an X3M and M40i so I can decide if the extra $300/mo or so is worth the M.

Yes, this is also precisely my experience with Macan Turbo. Very smooth, very comfy, very polished, just not very exciting to drive. It's not visceral. Feels like a slightly upgraded and more powerful Audi SQ5 (probably not all too surprisingly). I would definitely take the 2020 M40i over the Macan Turbo.

Transfer · 02-12-2020, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

I drove a nice 17k mile Turbo today and was rather underwhelmed. I couldn't hear the engine to get an idea of what RPM I was at. To me that's never good. Also power was smooth and it was fast but never exciting. No real pull in acceleration either which I even get in my supposedly low torque M3. Interior was great, air suspension smooth yet agile, and it looked the part but I think I would regret the purchase.

I stopped at the BMW dealer at the same location and sat in a few M40i but they were too busy to help me or take me on a test drive. I think it looks great from outside and was roomy on the inside. Materials were not as nice as the Porsche but not a surprise there. I thought I would like cognac leather but it was way too orange for me. I couldn't find a mocha or oyster.

All in all I think I'll have to wait until I can drive an X3M and M40i so I can decide if the extra $300/mo or so is worth the M.

Yes, this is also precisely my experience with Macan Turbo. Very smooth, very comfy, very polished, just not very exciting to drive. It's not visceral. Feels like a slightly upgraded and more powerful Audi SQ5 (probably not all too surprisingly). I would definitely take the 2020 M40i over the Macan Turbo.

Every weekend I'm tempted to go test drive X3 M and M40i but my SQ5 lease goes until August so kind of jumping the gun. SQ5 is such a nice and luxurious car that is quick, but needs more power and more throttle response without lag. The air suspension is incredible though and will be tough to surrender back to stiffer ride in the bimmers.

AlexFL · 02-12-2020, 05:40 PM

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Every weekend I'm tempted to go test drive X3 M and M40i but my SQ5 lease goes until August so kind of jumping the gun. SQ5 is such a nice and luxurious car that is quick, but needs more power and more throttle response without lag. The air suspension is incredible though and will be tough to surrender back to stiffer ride in the bimmers.

Yes, i love Audis. It’s a shame they never made an RS Q5. You will love the handling and responsiveness of the X3.

drurka · 02-12-2020, 08:18 PM

Wouldn't the new Macan GTS be more of a direct competitor to the M40i? If you really want a Porsche, and want it brand new, that might be a good option in the middle. Another option I would consider in this scenario would be a gently used GLC63 if you could find one in the low 70's. All that said, I bought my M40i brand new and got it how I wanted it, and couldn't be happier. Most people here have an allergy to cerium gray, but on the carbon black I actually think it looks pretty good. All makes of cars (high and low end) these days are blacking out wheels and badges etc, but with the M performance line of BMWs you know it is just a little unique with that weird bronzey-grey.

AlexFL · 02-12-2020, 08:27 PM

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Wouldn't the new Macan GTS be more of a direct competitor to the M40i? If you really want a Porsche, and want it brand new, that might be a good option in the middle. Another option I would consider in this scenario would be a gently used GLC63 if you could find one in the low 70's. All that said, I bought my M40i brand new and got it how I wanted it, and couldn't be happier. Most people here have an allergy to cerium gray, but on the carbon black I actually think it looks pretty good. All makes of cars (high and low end) these days are blacking out wheels and badges etc, but with the M performance line of BMWs you know it is just a little unique with that weird bronzey-grey.

I guess I was one of those “allergic” guys... blacked it out first thing.

drurka · 02-12-2020, 08:33 PM

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Wouldn't the new Macan GTS be more of a direct competitor to the M40i? If you really want a Porsche, and want it brand new, that might be a good option in the middle. Another option I would consider in this scenario would be a gently used GLC63 if you could find one in the low 70's. All that said, I bought my M40i brand new and got it how I wanted it, and couldn't be happier. Most people here have an allergy to cerium gray, but on the carbon black I actually think it looks pretty good. All makes of cars (high and low end) these days are blacking out wheels and badges etc, but with the M performance line of BMWs you know it is just a little unique with that weird bronzey-grey.

I guess I was one of those "allergic" guys... blacked it out first thing.

Sorry I should clarify. I think the blacked out look is great too, definitely makes it look more aggressive. Wasn't trying to offend anyone.

AlexFL · 02-12-2020, 08:47 PM

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Sorry I should clarify. I think the blacked out look is great too, definitely makes it look more aggressive. Wasn't trying to offend anyone.

No, you didn’t! All good...

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Transfer Major General 5260 Rep 5,874 Posts Drives: Bronco Wildtrak, Tesla MYP Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Issaquah, WA iTrader: (1)	I drove a nice 17k mile Turbo today and was rather underwhelmed. I couldn't hear the engine to get an idea of what RPM I was at. To me that's never good. Also power was smooth and it was fast but never exciting. No real pull in acceleration either which I even get in my supposedly low torque M3. Interior was great, air suspension smooth yet agile, and it looked the part but I think I would regret the purchase. I stopped at the BMW dealer at the same location and sat in a few M40i but they were too busy to help me or take me on a test drive. I think it looks great from outside and was roomy on the inside. Materials were not as nice as the Porsche but not a surprise there. I thought I would like cognac leather but it was way too orange for me. I couldn't find a mocha or oyster. All in all I think I'll have to wait until I can drive an X3M and M40i so I can decide if the extra $300/mo or so is worth the M.
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drurka Enlisted Member 21 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2020 X3 M40i Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Powell, OH iTrader: (0)	Wouldn't the new Macan GTS be more of a direct competitor to the M40i? If you really want a Porsche, and want it brand new, that might be a good option in the middle. Another option I would consider in this scenario would be a gently used GLC63 if you could find one in the low 70's. All that said, I bought my M40i brand new and got it how I wanted it, and couldn't be happier. Most people here have an allergy to cerium gray, but on the carbon black I actually think it looks pretty good. All makes of cars (high and low end) these days are blacking out wheels and badges etc, but with the M performance line of BMWs you know it is just a little unique with that weird bronzey-grey.
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