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      02-29-2024, 03:51 PM   #331
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Horner texts leaked:
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No Western media outlet will repost the messages. They do look fake. They don't want to be sued into oblivion if they are.
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Again, crazy turn of events.
With those documents leaked (whether they're fake or not) I have a hard time to believe it's just about Horner's controlling behaviour.
Someone powerful want's him gone.
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Can you imagine the Commendatore reaction to diversity?
Racing is a great mania to which one must sacrifice everything, without reticence, without hesitation.
Enzo Ferrari, the Commendatore
That was then. Ferrari was born in 1898. Italy had just become 'Italy' 27 years prior. Ferrari lived two world wars, of which one lost because idiots voted a lunatic in. Women only started voting in 1945.

Now is now. You can have diversity and win. Actually, diversity is a winning strategy. Wait, how long since the last championship ? Blimey ! Sixteen bloody years. No wonder.
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I’ve read a few of these chat strings. Can’t be certain if real. But if these were the ones considered in the investigation, they are real. They would have confirmed authenticity before considering them in investigation. And if they are real, Horner is gone. There isn’t enough to fire him for cause, but he can’t continue. He would be too weakened. And I’m sure he knows it also. I think they have a buyout of his contract agreed on tonight. I’d bet 5$ he isn’t on the wall for Friday. Poor Christian. What a dumbass. IF these are real…..
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I’ve read a few of these chat strings. Can’t be certain if real. But if these were the ones considered in the investigation, they are real. They would have confirmed authenticity before considering them in investigation. And if they are real, Horner is gone. There isn’t enough to fire him for cause, but he can’t continue. He would be too weakened. And I’m sure he knows it also. I think they have a buyout of his contract agreed on tonight. I’d bet 5$ he isn’t on the wall for Friday. Poor Christian. What a dumbass. IF these are real…..
Oh boy if those are real and that nipple is really HIS, oh lord glad to have been wrong in my post above

But I don't know, I am getting some sort of AI vibes from the texts.
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Oh boy if those are real and that nipple is really HIS, oh lord glad to have been wrong in my post above
The big P can make a guy do some stupid stuff. But this one will take the cake. IF these are real. But I think there would have been a press statement by now from Red Bull if these weren’t the ones entered into evidence.
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That was then. Ferrari was born in 1898. Italy had just become 'Italy' 27 years prior. Ferrari lived two world wars, of which one lost because idiots voted a lunatic in. Women only started voting in 1945.

Now is now. You can have diversity and win. Actually, diversity is a winning strategy. Wait, how long since the last championship ? Blimey ! Sixteen bloody years. No wonder.
Depends, diversity for the sake of diversity is just reverse racism. Hire the best people with a blind eye.
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Depends, diversity for the sake of diversity is just reverse racism. Hire the best people with a blind eye.
Except nobody hires with a blind eye. You meet candidates in person. And your visual assessment has a massive influence in the hiring decision. People of colour, with visible disabilities, ugly, non-gender conforming, fat, short, too tall, with accents, etc, will be picked last if at all.

Diversity means deliberately hiring people with the characteristics listed above, and mentoring, training and making them aces. And often times they already are aces.
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Doesn't look great for horny horner
If this is true, Mrs Horner is getting a handsome divorce settlement.
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You can have diversity and win. Actually, diversity is a winning strategy.
No excellence always wins, if that is not diverse enough then some people are not trying hard enough. Diversity as a guiding philosophy breeds mediocrity. I've hired a good number of people in my days but I have never hired one who was not expected to be the best at the job. My companies, over the years have been hired for one reason and one reason only, the expectations that we are going to do a good job not that we met some quota.
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Doesn't look great for horny horner
horner already is on his second marriage now with Geri so what's another divorce, right.
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Bad look for RB for protecting him
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Diversity as a guiding philosophy breeds mediocrity.
Sadly, yet not surprising, you believe that is true. Thankfully countless studies, papers, statistics and above all, results, say otherwise.
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Except nobody hires with a blind eye. You meet candidates in person. And your visual assessment has a massive influence in the hiring decision. People of colour, with visible disabilities, ugly, non-gender conforming, fat, short, too tall, with accents, etc, will be picked last if at all.

Diversity means deliberately hiring people with the characteristics listed above, and mentoring, training and making them aces. And often times they already are aces.
I get that...but, I wouldn't hire in hopes of making an ace if I already have one.

Simplistic example...two tire changers different races. One is constantly 0.2 second faster...I'm hiring the fastest guy. Could the other be trained up and possibly faster? Yes, but the season is short and I don't have time to waste.

Sometimes diversity can't be forced....
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I'm too scared to open files of unknown origin
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yeah my 6 year old could do this

https://prankshit.com/
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I'm too scared to open files of unknown origin
just some random fake social media messages like you can create using
https://prankshit.com/
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I get that...but, I wouldn't hire in hopes of making an ace if I already have one.

Simplistic example...two tire changers different races. One is constantly 0.2 second faster...I'm hiring the fastest guy. Could the other be trained up and possibly faster? Yes, but the season is short and I don't have time to waste.

Sometimes diversity can't be forced....
Diversity is good, otherwise we won't have Ferrari doing Ferrari things, Yuki swearing his head off, old man Danny smiling his way to another RB seat, already exists

but i think he means rich kids getting what they want, like Lance, Nikita?
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just some random fake social media messages like you can create using
https://prankshit.com/
that selfie from the garden checks out with his instagram post, though.

it is implied in the screenshots that it is his assistant he is talking to and red bull's PA, whose name is also in one of the screenshots, has gone private on social media since the leak so

still have my doubts, but:
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Diversity is good, otherwise we won't have Ferrari doing Ferrari things, Yuki swearing his head off, old man Danny smiling his way to another RB seat, already exists

but i think he means rich kids getting what they want, like Lance, Nikita?
Yes, diversity is good....Forced diversity SOMETIMES bad.
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just some random fake social media messages like you can create using
https://prankshit.com/
There are some selfies and a video of him in a bar singing American Pie (the 1971 hit). No metadata in the images however.

I don't find this in google image search, so probably not publicly available:
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