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      02-16-2018, 07:35 PM   #265
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Just got this quote for 2018 X3 M40i.


MSRP 63,595.00
Discount .00
Price 63,595.00
Discount 4,951.00 (7% off + $500 Fleet)
Rebate 4,500.00 ($3000 APR credit + $1500 Loyalty)
Adjusted Price 54,144.00

Total Purchase 54,144.00
Doc Fee 689.00
Tax 3,289.98
Non Tax Fees 263.00
Net Price 58,385.98

Balance 58,385.98
This is a pretty good quote. The only thing that stands out is the Doc fee - maybe worth seeing if they can reduce it as it was only $150 in texas.
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What is the APR credit?

BTW, I bought and owned a 2009 335i and sold it in October 2017 (8 years later). Do I still qualify for some kind of "loyalty" program since my last owned car was a BMW?
APR credit should be the credit you will receive if you finance with BMWFS

I don't think you will quality for loyalty if you don't currently own a BMW
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What is the APR credit?

BTW, I bought and owned a 2009 335i and sold it in October 2017 (8 years later). Do I still qualify for some kind of "loyalty" program since my last owned car was a BMW?
APR credit should be the credit you will receive if you finance with BMWFS

I don't think you will quality for loyalty if you don't currently own a BMW
Where are you located? I have not seen any APR credits in the SF Bay Area since year end.
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      02-19-2018, 07:25 AM   #268
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What is the APR credit?

BTW, I bought and owned a 2009 335i and sold it in October 2017 (8 years later). Do I still qualify for some kind of "loyalty" program since my last owned car was a BMW?
You do qualify for the credit. According to the 23 different dealers I've been working with, you have to have owned the car within one year to receive the loyalty credit.
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      02-25-2018, 12:51 PM   #270
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Canada here where I don’t think we get the crazy deals y’all do in the US. Zero discounts available up here apart from loyalty which doesn’t apply to me. There’s only 4 dealerships in my province. After spending a fair amount of time at one along with various emails back n forth and finally making an offer I was told they essentially don’t negotiate; their prices at competitive. If I got a better offer, however, they would beat it by $500. I called up the other dealership in town:

M40i
Phytonic blue
Tartufo merino leather
Piano black trim
726i wheels
Ultimate package

MSRP: $77495
Mandatory fees: $4087.25 (I found one fee questionable but mixed it in)
Subtotal: $81582.25
Dealer options: $894
Before taxes (5%): 82476.25

Offered and paid $78000 before tax or about 5.4% off.

This deal happened in the course of about 30min on the phone, plus about 60min for him to get it approved by whomever. Not that I had it in writing but zero desire to take this back to the first dealership for them to maybe beat it by $500.

All in all this is the second vehicle I’ve ever purchased in my 35 years and feel pretty good about how it went - esp working with this particular gentlemen. I feel like he was pretty honest with me give I have zero poker face, easily get excited and start fumbling my words plus hate negotiating in general (over the phone helped).

Now to survive 2mo until it arrives.

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Just ordered the following build on Saturday, 2/14/2018:

Build code: dkkb4g18
Link: https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html?seri...mmary/dkkb4g18

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STANDARD FEATURES
BASE MSRP $54,500
COLOR Phytonic Blue Metallic $550
WHEELS 20" M Double-spoke bi-color wheels, style 699M with performance run-flat tires $950
UPHOLSTERY Black Vernasca Leather w/blue contrast stitching/piping
TRIM Gray Poplar Wood Trim
PACKAGES + OPTIONS
Driving Assistance Package $900
Driving Assistance Plus Package $1,700
Executive Package $2,550
Premium Package $2,950
Front and Rear Heated Seats $350
Wireless Charging and WiFi Hotspot $500
Adaptive M Suspension $700
Harman Kardon surround sound system $875
DESTINATION + HANDLING $995
TOTAL MSRP as Built $67,520
Dealer discount: $2000
USAA discount: $2000
Purchase price: $63,520
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Canada here where I don’t think we get the crazy deals y’all do in the US. Zero discounts available up here apart from loyalty which doesn’t apply to me. There’s only 4 dealerships in my province. After spending a fair amount of time at one along with various emails back n forth and finally making an offer I was told they essentially don’t negotiate; their prices at competitive. If I got a better offer, however, they would beat it by $500. I called up the other dealership in town:

M40i
Phytonic blue
Tartufo merino leather
Piano black trim
726i wheels
Ultimate package

MSRP: $77495
Mandatory fees: $4087.25 (I found one fee questionable but mixed it in)
Subtotal: $81582.25
Dealer options: $894
Before taxes (5%): 82476.25

Offered and paid $78000 before tax or about 5.4% off.

This deal happened in the course of about 30min on the phone, plus about 60min for him to get it approved by whomever. Not that I had it in writing but zero desire to take this back to the first dealership for them to maybe beat it by $500.

All in all this is the second vehicle I’ve ever purchased in my 35 years and feel pretty good about how it went - esp working with this particular gentlemen. I feel like he was pretty honest with me give I have zero poker face, easily get excited and start fumbling my words plus hate negotiating in general (over the phone helped).

Now to survive 2mo until it arrives.
That is a good deal. You have ticked off all the options plus the Individual interior that is not available in the US - all for $61,500
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      03-04-2018, 12:22 PM   #273
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Hi All,

I'm getting ready to turn in my 2015 328i lease for this 2018 X3: DKO34CRO https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/build/color/dkqe6327

This is the initial quote I got from BMW in San Francisco for 36 months / 10K

Capitalization:

MSRP: $60,070.00
Discount: $4,430.00
Selling Price: $55,640.00
Doc Fee: $80.00
Acquisition Gee: $925.00
License Fee: $636.00

Gross Cap Cost: $55,640.00

Cap Cost Reduction:

Customer Cash: $2,605.12
Total Rebates: $1,500 (loyalty)

Amount Applied Upfront: $2,605.12
Total Cap Cost Reduction: $1,500

Net Cap Cost: $54,140.00

Residual: .59
MSRP: 60,070.00
Adjusted Residual: $35,441.30

Payment:

Money Factor: .00156
Advanced Payment: $715.19
Total Cap Reduction: $1,500
Upfront Charges: $1,889.93
Initial Payment: $4,105.12
Due on Delivery: $2,605.12


Base Monthly Payment: $659.16
Tax: 56.03

Payment: $715.19

Edited to add: :

My target is less than $700 with lease end protection. I would also like to squeeze wireless charging in there.

Do you think I could hit my target? Weatherford's dealer quoted me only $1,500 for discounts...which was insulting. I'm waiting to hear back from Weatherford.

I've never ordered my perfect car, so I'm unsure on how hard I can push. I would probably want to throw in wireless charging as well.

Thanks in Advanced!

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      03-04-2018, 01:03 PM   #274
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Hi All,

I'm getting ready to turn in my 2015 328i lease for this 2018 X3: DKO34CRO https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/build/color/dkqe6327

This is the initial quote I got from BMW in San Francisco for 36 months / 10K

Capitalization:

MSRP: $60,070.00
Discount: $4,430.00
Selling Price: $55,640.00
Doc Fee: $80.00
Acquisition Gee: $925.00
License Fee: $636.00

Gross Cap Cost: $55,640.00

Cap Cost Reduction:

Customer Cash: $2,605.12
Total Rebates: $1,500 (loyalty)

Amount Applied Upfront: $2,605.12
Total Cap Cost Reduction: $1,500

Net Cap Cost: $54,140.00

Residual: .59
MSRP: 60,070.00
Adjusted Residual: $35,441.30

Payment:

Money Factor: .00156
Advanced Payment: $715.19
Total Cap Reduction: $1,500
Upfront Charges: $1,889.93
Initial Payment: $4,105.12
Due on Delivery: $2,605.12


Base Monthly Payment: $659.16
Tax: 56.03

Payment: $715.19

Thoughts? Weatherford's dealer quoted me only $1.500 for discounts...which was insulting. I could send this quote to them and see what they can do.

I've never ordered my perfect car, so I'm unsure on how hard I can push. I would probably want to throw in wireless charging as well.

Thanks in Advanced!
If you are willing to come to Sacramento I think you might have a good chance at saving some money through the guy I bought from. Drop me a PM if you would like his number.
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      03-12-2018, 10:12 PM   #276
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I pick up at performance center next week. Feel like I am getting a great deal. They are giving me a solid deal on trade-in. Matching what a dealer friend was giving me as a favor. Did the appraisal on it 6 weeks ago and still honoring the price while Bmw built my car. Name:  74E353A9-C7A7-4D22-89BB-F77BAC804173.jpeg
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I pick up at performance center next week. Feel like I am getting a great deal. They are giving me a solid deal on trade-in. Matching what a dealer friend was giving me as a favor. Did the appraisal on it 6 weeks ago and still honoring the price while Bmw built my car. Attachment 1784796
Wow. How are you getting such a big discount and a rebate?
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      03-12-2018, 11:45 PM   #278
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Schmeal7 your MSRP is the same as mine - i need to print this and see if i can talk my dealer down a bit on delivery - you def have some deeper discounts.
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^ That's way below invoice.
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I pick up at performance center next week. Feel like I am getting a great deal. They are giving me a solid deal on trade-in. Matching what a dealer friend was giving me as a favor. Did the appraisal on it 6 weeks ago and still honoring the price while Bmw built my car. Attachment 1784796
This is about right for the current market. I bought a G01 listing for $54870 (including destination) for $46900 after rebates, including a $500 BMWCCA rebate. That's about 15% off MSRP. BMW is being very aggressive with G01 for some reason.

What blows me away about @Schmeal7's deal is that *enourmous* doc fee. In the Boston area, doc fees are on the order of $349-$400. But $689? Whew...
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      03-13-2018, 02:05 PM   #281
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I tried to get it lower, but they wouldn't budge and I didn't argue the Doc fee further, as I was getting such a good deal otherwise. I worked with Chris Byers at Global imports in Atlanta, although I live in OH. My local dealer couldn't touch the deal. I fly to perf center for delivery next week.

I didn't even have to twist their arms on the original deal. He had some rebates for BMW finance/dealer rebate, fleet vehicle (although my company isn't on the corporate list), and bmw loyalty rebate, plus their discount. At the time we inked it, it was $3k in bmw rebates and $6551 dealer discount.

I am paying cash though, so didn't have to finance. I am not asking questions on the break down of rebates.

If you want the same deal, give him a call and tell him I referred you!

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I tried to get it lower, but they wouldn't budge and I didn't argue the Doc fee further, as I was getting such a good deal otherwise. I worked with Chris Byers at Global imports in Atlanta, although I live in OH. My local dealer couldn't touch the deal. I fly to perf center for delivery next week.

I didn't even have to twist their arms on the original deal. He had some rebates for BMW finance/dealer rebate, fleet vehicle (although my company isn't on the corporate list), and bmw loyalty rebate, plus their discount. At the time we inked it, it was $3k in bmw rebates and $6551 dealer discount.

I am paying cash though, so didn't have to finance. I am not asking questions on the break down of rebates.

If you want the same deal, give him a call and tell him I referred you!

Neil Mathias
So, you got a BMW Financing (or) a dealer rebate even though you're not financing? As well as the Corporate Fleet even though you don't have a company code for that? I hope that dealer isn't breaking some kind of internal BMW rules by getting those for you. If he's not breaking any rules, I wonder if I can get my dealer to do those incentives as well...
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So, you got a BMW Financing (or) a dealer rebate even though you're not financing? As well as the Corporate Fleet even though you don't have a company code for that? I hope that dealer isn't breaking some kind of internal BMW rules by getting those for you. If he's not breaking any rules, I wonder if I can get my dealer to do those incentives as well...
Really, who cares what the dealer did, as long as he got the price to what the customer wanted?

As to financing, BMW FS contracts (at least in Massachusetts) do not have pre-payment penalties. So, if you are a cash buyer, put down 50% or so and pay off the loan immediately without penalty.

In fact, since you pay in arears, you could wait until the first payment is due if you don't mind eating into the BMW FS rebate a bit by paying interest until the first payment due date.

In short, the dealer can give you more off (and get you a rebate, too) if you finance with the captive lender (BMW FS in this case). Then, you simply pay off the loan after pocketing the rebates.
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Really, who cares what the dealer did, as long as he got the price to what the customer wanted?

As to financing, BMW FS contracts (at least in Massachusetts) do not have pre-payment penalties. So, if you are a cash buyer, put down 50% or so and pay off the loan immediately without penalty.

In fact, since you pay in arears, you could wait until the first payment is due if you don't mind eating into the BMW FS rebate a bit by paying interest until the first payment due date.

In short, the dealer can give you more off (and get you a rebate, too) if you finance with the captive lender (BMW FS in this case). Then, you simply pay off the loan after pocketing the rebates.
I don't care what the dealer did...just wondering if I could get my dealer to buy into the idea. As for the financing incentive, that's exactly what I plan on doing; I'll finance a small portion and pay it off immediately.

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Can you post lease programming in this thread or did you post it elsewhere?

Looking for 36/12 or possibly 36/10 in Florida on an X40i. MF and Residual?
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Can you post lease programming in this thread or did you post it elsewhere?

Looking for 36/12 or possibly 36/10 in Florida on an X40i. MF and Residual?

GOLFFRR Interested in X1/2/3 lease rates as well. Within distance of ordering one for the wife.
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