[shoei]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Ah....but today, my currency can buy ANY asset - but a Barrel of Crude without a standard of exchange is only valuable to someone that wants the commodity in trade....

Crude oil, gold, silver, palladium, adamantium, enough already... You want ROI? Coca leaves, turn it into cocaine... Problem solved... Take it to Australia - cocaine prices are almost triple in the land down under vs USA...

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Biorin

I think I misunderstood you - thought you were referring to a specific currency rather than currency in general. However, it doesn't make t worthless without a currency to exchange. Maybe I don't want your oil, but if I trade you my goats for your oil, I can trade the oil to someone who values it for their goods.

But I have goats....don't need any more. What then? If you cannot barter for my stuff, your stuff has less value...or no value?

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

But I have goats....don't need any more. What then? If you cannot barter for my stuff, your stuff has less value...or no value?

1. There is no such thing as too many goats. How dare you!
2. I would trade my goats to someone else for something that you want... Like a box of donuts

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

But I have goats....don't need any more. What then? If you cannot barter for my stuff, your stuff has less value...or no value?

You're funny. This ain't village exchange man!

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by shoei

Crude oil, gold, silver, palladium, adamantium, enough already... You want ROI? Coca leaves, turn it into cocaine... Problem solved... Take it to Australia - cocaine prices are almost triple in the land down under vs USA...

...where is that BAN button...??

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by shoei

Crude oil, gold, silver, palladium, adamantium, enough already... You want ROI? Coca leaves, turn it into cocaine... Problem solved... Take it to Australia - cocaine prices are almost triple in the land down under vs USA...

US coke markets is a huge loser if you're trading retail. An 8 ball been $120-150 for 30 years. And this isn't inflation adjusted. RETAIL SUCKS. But good if you had the habit since the 80s and haven't died of an 80s-era party illness already.

But if you're higher up on the food chain, it's return is off the charts. But with great reward is great risk.

Think Tony Montana but less money and less glorious death.

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

US coke markets is a huge loser if you're trading retail. An 8 ball been $120-150 for 30 years. And this isn't inflation adjusted. RETAIL SUCKS. But good if you had the habit since the 80s and haven't died of an 80s-era party illness already.

But if you're higher up on the food chain, it's return is off the charts. But with great reward is great risk.

Think Tony Montana but less money and less glorious death.

You're telling it to the wrong guy... Shoei is what Rick Ross WISHES he was.

I'm like, 42% sure about that.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by Biorin

You're telling it to the wrong guy... Shoei is what Rick Ross WISHES he was.

I'm like, 42% sure about that.

I'm a corrections officer? Posing as a gangbanger?

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by shoei

I'm a corrections officer? Posing as a gangbanger?

I said wishes, not is, you illiterate fuck.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by shoei

I'm a corrections officer? Posing as a gangbanger?

Sup Rik Ro$$

[shoei]

Originally Posted by Biorin

I said wishes, not is, you illiterate fuck.

Aaannndddd that didn't take long for the REAL biorin to raise her head...

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by shoei

Aaannndddd that didn't take long for the REAL biorin to raise her head...

Does real Biorin have mustache?

[Mr Tonka]

Attention old dudes or anyone who ices for muscle recovery. I recently purchased a couple of knee ice compression packs. I ordered them in L/XL so that I could wrap my thighs with them. I just took them off after icing for 30 min and my legs were so damn cold I took a temp measurement. Then took one of the ice pack. ....after 30 min of use at room temperature. These things rock!

Shock Doctor ice compression wraps.

[shoei]

Currently more like handlebar and soon to be fu Manchu style...

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by shoei

Currently more like handlebar and soon to be fu Manchu style...

Wow... Just like Iliza Schlesinger.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Wow... Just like Iliza Schlesinger.

Uhhh, sure? In the same token if I were to go get goats and a ESS supercharger at a massive discount, i'd look like just ASBSECU E93 or multiple bicycles, and the old fart ice compression ice packs and look like Mr Tonka ??

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by shoei

Uhhh, sure? In the same token if I were to go get goats and a ESS supercharger at a massive discount, i'd look like just ASBSECU E93 or multiple bicycles, and the old fart ice compression ice packs and look like Mr Tonka ??

...so, you're saying my S/C is now like currency or a commodity...?

I can trade it like GOLD

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by shoei

Uhhh, sure? In the same token if I were to go get goats and a ESS supercharger at a massive discount, i'd look like just ASBSECU E93 or multiple bicycles, and the old fart ice compression ice packs and look like Mr Tonka ??

A-ha. Sorry, thought you were aware of the context.

Context:

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...&postcount=113

[shoei]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

...so, you're saying my S/C is now like currency or a commodity...?

I can trade it like GOLD

You definitely could... Because you totally bought it on some super blow out sale... Much like the price of your precious crude oil as of late...

[jtodd_fl]

Interesting chats. Thanks for the original answer Biorin Sparked some thought-provoking conversation. I agree with you, for what it's worth. While you cannot go all-in laissez faire, government needs to get out of it more than they have: let the corrections come, because you cannot really engineer a soft landing. The heavy-handed intervention - either monetary or fiscal policy - just causes the bubble to get bigger and more pressurized before it pops. The true cost of all the bail outs and QE is yet to be paid. Sadly. It's in that $19 trillion dollars debt. (Along with a bunch of other stuff #nopolitics). $19,000,000,000,000. Damn.
Also, thanks for the interesting conversation about currency and commodities as wealth preservation vs. income generation. I guess the main take-away there is the fungible nature of commodities. Their local value in a fiat currency may fluctuate (dramatically) but its inherent value endures. You can trade it for goats.
Anyway, thanks for all the responses. Sorry I got busy and missed most of it. Bottom line? Intervention is bad. Metals may preserve wealth when SHTF. Real estate is more likely to create income, though - but don't try to depreciate the land. The other precious metals can protect your life and wealth when the real SHTF and Mywifes335 can mail me 30% of his money. Sweet.
(Also, shoei is the real Rick Ross. And loves teh coke.)
*summaries and conclusions mine. If I mischaracterized anything, it was an honest mistake born of ignorance and lack of subject matter expertise, not malice. (Except the part about shoei. Definitely a coke head.)

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Hope my dick pic avatar doesn't offend you.

Reported dammit! Enjoy your account while you still have it bwahahaha!!111!

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

Check this out... it is done with their Patrimony World Time, but it is the same movement. Just the entire outside is different.

It is really an ingenious design. The dark area around the Lambert Projection of the earth at center, is actually a shaded sapphire disk that rotates and is an accurate representation of which of those timezones are in darkness vs the ones in light. It is actually a really neat complication.

Okay after I post this I'm going to look at the video because I was engrossed in the dissection of economic systems discussion taking place.

Originally Posted by Biorin

That's really oversimplified, and probably doesn't answer your question, but yes.

Just....typical you.

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Attention old dudes or anyone who ices for muscle recovery. I recently purchased a couple of knee ice compression packs. I ordered them in L/XL so that I could wrap my thighs with them. I just took them off after icing for 30 min and my legs were so damn cold I took a temp measurement. Then took one of the ice pack. ....after 30 min of use at room temperature. These things rock!

Shock Doctor ice compression wraps.

At first I was like DUDE, WHY is your underwear wrapped around your foot?!

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

At first I was like DUDE, WHY is your underwear wrapped around your foot?!

That happens to him a lot actually.