[flo_sb]

Originally Posted by aLex31

Hello,

I want to upgrade my sport wheel by an m sport one, I need a non LCI one with heating and driving assistant plus. I may take a LCI wheel without trim and multifunction switch from one dealer and buttons and trim of non LCI separetly.

Can you confirm that everything is working perfectly with no coding, especially the driving assistant plus features?

By the way, thanks for your video on trim removal, it will be very helpful for sure.

Hey there!
What I can confirm for sure is that on my non LCI car with factory m sport wheel and driving assistant plus, a LCI M sport (or LCI M5) wheel with driving assistant professional works only if you replace the buttons (and nothing else) with the buttons of a non LCI driving assistant plus.

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My strong bet is that LCI driving assistant plus buttons will also work, because
I have also tested a LCI driving assistant plus wheel in my yard for 5 minutes, and everything seemed to work just fine, but the wheel was scratched so I had to return it.
****EDIT: !!WARNING!! I have just bought another LCI driving assistant plus wheel. All buttons work, no errors on car start and while moving the car in the courtyard, but as soon as I drive off faster than 30km/h, errors start popping out.****
I took a pic but it's very blurry. Basically, it's:
Driver assistance restricted:
Lane change warning
Lane departure warning
Side collision warning
Steering assitant
As soon as I turn off the engine, all errors go away, everything fine untill I drive off faster than 30km/h when they start popping up again.
I don't know if the wheel I bought is broken, but I don't think so, as it looks like new.
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My bet is that a LCI/non-LCI wheel that has just the adaptive cruise control buttons on it (so no auto-steering thingy from driver assistant plus) can also be "retrofitted" to driving assistant plus with just switching it's buttons to the driver assistant plus ones.

What I can confirm for sure is that a steering wheel that doesn't have adaptive cruise control on it, cannot be retrofitted to driver assistant plus by switching it's buttons with driver assistant plus ones. I learned this one the hard way as well, because this wheel does not have in it the sensor that can detect the presence of your hands on the steering wheel.

Also, to answer your question on no coding necessary when upgrading from standard wheel to m sport wheel, I can't say for sure, but from what I have read, yes, no coding is necessary. This was also the case in my dad's X5 F15 m sport upgrade. From what I've read, upgrading from standard to m sport wheel is seamless, only as long as you maintain the exact same features as you had on the old wheel. I would bet that upgrading to m sport LCI wheel is seamless too, if you respect the same condition.

So... this being said... For the moment if anyone is interested, I have an M5 steering wheel with driver assistant professional for sale that is sitting inside a drawer
Hoping to find an LCI driver assistant plus wheel, so that I can swap it's buttons with the M5 one, keep the M5 one, then sell the LCI wheel with the driver assistant professional buttons.
Anyway, have put this project on pause as I'm currently upgrading the exterior to M package and will then probably wrap the car too

P.S. use my info at own risk, and please note the difference between "i can confirm / strong bet / bet"

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by freshxdough

I would opt for an airbag for the same model vehicle in the same country.

Yeah, I agree with you, it would be ideal to get a 7855724. It is just that all the ones I am finding are Takata's one, and with the takata issues, I am a bit afraid with the second hand ones on ebay (how to be sure that some people are not reselling recalled airbags??)

The G05 G06 G07 airbag is a JSS one so after the Takata scandal. It looks identical, same plugs, same shape...both airbag are fitting the same wheel, same trim...just they sadly have different part numbers...

Could the grey seam justify a different OEM number ? I would like to bet it is fitting, still I was wondering if someone has already experienced the swap.

If I decide to take the risk, I'll leave a feedback. For the moment, I have to find the wheel, and considering Flo's post, now I am thinking about trying a LCI wheel with Drive Ass+.

[freshxdough]

Originally Posted by aLex31

Yeah, I agree with you, it would be ideal to get a 7855724. It is just that all the ones I am finding are Takata's one, and with the takata issues, I am a bit afraid with the second hand ones on ebay (how to be sure that some people are not reselling recalled airbags??)

The G05 G06 G07 airbag is a JSS one so after the Takata scandal. It looks identical, same plugs, same shape...both airbag are fitting the same wheel, same trim...just they sadly have different part numbers...

Could the grey seam justify a different OEM number ? I would like to bet it is fitting, still I was wondering if someone has already experienced the swap.

If I decide to take the risk, I'll leave a feedback. For the moment, I have to find the wheel, and considering Flo's post, now I am thinking about trying a LCI wheel with Drive Ass+.

The G01 airbag is not on any kind of Takata airbag recall as of yet.

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by freshxdough

The G01 airbag is not on any kind of Takata airbag recall as of yet.

Ok, this is good to know, thanks for the information.

I am gonna try the LCI wheel with no leds. I'll keep you informed about the results.

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by flo_sb

Hey there!
My strong bet is that LCI driving assistant plus buttons will also work...

P.S. use my info at own risk, and please note the difference between "i can confirm / strong bet / bet"

Thank you mate for all the infos shared here and by PM, I'll take the bet with LCI Drive Ass+ Wheel. I miss the next/previous buttons...still don't know why they are not on non LCI wheel, even my previous X1 E84 had them :/

[flo_sb]

Originally Posted by aLex31

Thank you mate for all the infos shared here and by PM, I'll take the bet with LCI Drive Ass+ Wheel. I miss the next/previous buttons...still don't know why they are not on non LCI wheel, even my previous X1 E84 had them :/

Please read my post again as I have edited it, just got an LCI wheel.
I can't say for sure but from my initial test, the LCI wheel won't work
I am so sorry for pointing you guys in the wrong direction.

[DigiSage]

I just drove a 2021 530i loaner while my 2018 X3 M40i was in for service and noticed the dedicated forward/back buttons on the steering wheel. At this point I'm like f*ck a flat bottom wheel, I just want those buttons, is there any way to make this happen? From the post above me, sounds like not?

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by flo_sb

Please read my post again as I have edited it, just got an LCI wheel.
I can't say for sure but from my initial test, the LCI wheel won't work
I am so sorry for pointing you guys in the wrong direction.

Well no problem dude, I took that bet at my own risk. In worst scenario I will only lose shipping cost.

I should receive the wheel next week, I'll do the test on my side as well.

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by DigiSage

I just drove a 2021 530i loaner while my 2018 X3 M40i was in for service and noticed the dedicated forward/back buttons on the steering wheel. At this point I'm like f*ck a flat bottom wheel, I just want those buttons, is there any way to make this happen? From the post above me, sounds like not?

Hi, yes it seems it does not work. I should receive my LCI wheel next week, I will test it and leave comments here.

[freshxdough]

It should work. For what it's worth I have a 2020 M40i which comes with the same buttons your G3 LCI had. With forward/back and such. The buttons are also fully separated from the airbag area and wheel trim. The 2018/2019 buttons have a different shape and kind of connect to the airbag area with the black plastic. I switched to 2019 buttons and everything worked flawlessly. So it should be able to work.

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by freshxdough

It should work. For what it's worth I have a 2020 M40i which comes with the same buttons your G3 LCI had. With forward/back and such. The buttons are also fully separated from the airbag area and wheel trim. The 2018/2019 buttons have a different shape and kind of connect to the airbag area with the black plastic. I switched to 2019 buttons and everything worked flawlessly. So it should be able to work.

So to be sure I understand, you have an X3 with idrive7 lite and you put on your LCI wheel the non LCI buttons, right? You have drive assistant plus ?
So your point of view is that the reverse should work as well...I hope you are right!

Just may I ask you why you put ID6 button on your ID7 steering wheel ?

[flo_sb]

In case you guys are interested, here's a video of the symptoms of my new LCI wheel on my non LCI G30. I see there's a copyright claim, probably because of the music in the background - hope most of the audio is ok.
Anyway long story short - everything is working minus vibration and sometimes auto steering will error out and it won't work for the rest of the trip (till i turn off and start engine again)
@aLex31, please let me know on your findings with the new wheel.
P.S. After making the video, I took out the airbag, disconnected all 3 connectors and reconnected. Still same problem.
edit: Have put back the non LCI wheel in - can confirm it's working just fine.

[freshxdough]

Originally Posted by aLex31

So to be sure I understand, you have an X3 with idrive7 lite and you put on your LCI wheel the non LCI buttons, right? You have drive assistant plus ?
So your point of view is that the reverse should work as well...I hope you are right!

Just may I ask you why you put ID6 button on your ID7 steering wheel ?

I had put idrive 6 buttons because the M Perf carbon steering wheel trim was for idrive 6 buttons even tho I had idrive 7. They did not have a part for idrive 7 cars yet. Didn't release until several months later. Once it released I switched back.

As long as you order the correct steering wheel buttons for your vehicle and options it should work. You can't use LCI buttons with driver assistant professional because of the additional LEDs and the steering wheel trim is different.

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by freshxdough

I had put idrive 6 buttons because the M Perf carbon steering wheel trim was for idrive 6 buttons even tho I had idrive 7. They did not have a part for idrive 7 cars yet. Didn't release until several months later. Once it released I switched back.

As long as you order the correct steering wheel buttons for your vehicle and options it should work. You can't use LCI buttons with driver assistant professional because of the additional LEDs and the steering wheel trim is different.

That is interesting and your car has driving assistant plus?

[freshxdough]

Originally Posted by aLex31

That is interesting and your car has driving assistant plus?

Yes. I got 2019 buttons for driver assistance plus too.

[Maxpa0wer]

So I followed all of the directions (many thanks OP) on a pre-owned M40i I picked up in February and everything went great. However, when I reconnected the battery I got notifications for Brake Fluid Service and Delivery Inspection Service (QC1). I was able to reset the Brake fluid Service notification in Diagnostic mode, but no dice on the QC1 Delivery Inspection Service notification.

Anybody else ever run into this issue? Really hoping to avoid having to take it back to the dealer, but I’m stumped.

[freshxdough]

Originally Posted by Maxpa0wer

So I followed all of the directions (many thanks OP) on a pre-owned M40i I picked up in February and everything went great. However, when I reconnected the battery I got notifications for Brake Fluid Service and Delivery Inspection Service (QC1). I was able to reset the Brake fluid Service notification in Diagnostic mode, but no dice on the QC1 Delivery Inspection Service notification.

Anybody else ever run into this issue? Really hoping to avoid having to take it back to the dealer, but I'm stumped.

Time/date set? You shouldn't have to reset the brake flush service notification just from disconnecting the battery.

[Maxpa0wer]

Originally Posted by freshxdough

Time/date set? You shouldn't have to reset the brake flush service notification just from disconnecting the battery.

Yeah so I did get the time/date set notification, but when I went to set them they were good to go. Not sure why. And I agree that the brake fluid and/or Delivery Inspection service shouldn’t be popping up just from disconnecting the battery. So bizarre. Did tons of work on my last X3 (F25) and never had anything remotely similar occur.

[aLex31]

Originally Posted by flo_sb

In case you guys are interested, here's a video of the symptoms of my new LCI wheel on my non LCI G30. I see there's a copyright claim, probably because of the music in the background - hope most of the audio is ok.
Anyway long story short - everything is working minus vibration and sometimes auto steering will error out and it won't work for the rest of the trip (till i turn off and start engine again)
@aLex31, please let me know on your findings with the new wheel.
P.S. After making the video, I took out the airbag, disconnected all 3 connectors and reconnected. Still same problem.
edit: Have put back the non LCI wheel in - can confirm it's working just fine.

Hello guys,

So on Monday I received my new LCI wheel and airbag (went for takata one finally hope it won't explode in my face ) and I have just made the swap this morning. I recall I have an X3 with driving assistant plus and idrive 6. The wheel I bought comes from a G30 550i.

And my first impression is that...it works. Not sure at 100% because I just drove around in my district and I want to test it at high speed on highway, but I had no errors at speed above 30km/h.

I went to 80km/h with ACC, it was fine and I got the lane departure warning light in dashboard that lighted on above 70km/h as usual...auto steering was working as well. I am not sure about vibrations for the moment. But I can confirm right now that I did not have the kind of errors Flo had with his wheel.

Only weird thing I got which is related to battery I guess is an error message that appeared when I turned off the engine, like " impossible closing in case of rain" (don't know in English), and then I noticed the sunroof button was buggy... I was able to close the black cover but not opening it...I just switch On/off the battery again and it was ok.

I will do more tests tomorrow at high speed to see if I can confirm my 1st impression...

To conclude, M sport wheel is so much better...and finally, I can change the music from the steering wheel!

Cheers.

[aLex31]

Ok, so I drove a little bit on highway and everything is fine. Vibration, lane departure, lane assistance, sensor, heating... every functions and buttons are working.

[flo_sb]

Updates: So I opened the wheel up, hoping to find a disconnected vibrator motor. Turns out the vibrator was completely missing, and the control module is lacking vibrator module wire. How a driver assistant plus, with ACC and heating can lack the vibrator module is beyond my understanding.
Tomorrow I am testing the LCI driver assistant plus trim on the M5 driver assistant professional wheel that I have.

[flo_sb]

UPDATE2: in non LCI G30 driver assistant plus - LCI M5 driver assistant professional wheel working with switched trim, new trim being LCI driver assistant plus

The LCI driver assistant plus wheel, with ACC heating etc, was throwing out errors because it did not have a vibrator motor and a the computer/control unit for the vibrations. I should get the vibrator and control unit for it soon, and I'll make a test and let you know that it works.

Not sure what I should do now with my mis-informing posts - should I delete those? :-/