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I don't know how much money there will be left in the government oil fund after financing some of the US wars.. And if you let Obama continue as president you too will have some heavy taxes in the future ... who will otherwise pay for the fun that the USA invites the world to? Did you know that the USA is technically broke...? Just my 2 cents... The car is great BTW. Last edited by X3andZ4owner; 06-18-2011 at 05:39 PM.. |
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Maybe you got a german worker working in the USA doing your seams.. Last edited by X3andZ4owner; 06-18-2011 at 05:48 PM.. |
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Well, in Greece people can retire when they are 40 something.. in Norway when they are 65..
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06-18-2011, 05:51 PM | #29 | |
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It's certainly possible yours was not the norm. Like I said my seams look lots better than your pictures. I certainly understand your sentiment on getting a quality product. Maybe the dealer can trim the caulk up some and make it look better. |
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06-18-2011, 06:01 PM | #31 | |
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BTW, the latest npr news releases have been bemoaning the fact that many “German” auto production lines are now staffed by up to 50% non-German “foreign” workers. So much for superior "German" production line skill. Also, you may have heard that Norway's "THINK" electric car company (Aurskog, Norway) (if it survives) is planning on producing its car in the US, not Norway. Hopefully they will bring in a top notch Norwegian caulk line inspector. As far as skin-deep quality, I totally agree and submit that BMW is putting its Euros into the places you don't see like engine internal components (where it really matters) instead of caulk line cosmetics, which from an engineering point of view are irrelevant as long as the seam is well sealed. I'm not defending BMW as a company, only pointing out the realities of any mass-produced product. In today's global economy it's up to the consumer to do his/her homework. If caulk line cosmetics are important to you, that's perfectly fine, but if so, you should inspect the caulk lines on the demo before ordering a vehicle that does not meet your expectations. Each of us has and is entitled to his/her own priorities. I'd rather see BMW build 3 liter engines that make 306 (European) HP and improve fuel economy 13% over their last generation of engines. You may prefer that they hire unemployed Art Majors to man the caulking guns. So be it. I may be considered a pessimist, but IMHO to expect perfection (in every detail) today in any mass-produced product is simply being naive. However, after due consideration of all of the arguments presented here, I've moved "caulk line smoothness" from #927 to # 920 on my priority list. P.S. I'm truly sorry that your government essentially doubles the price of a new BMW. We are fortunate that in the US our taxation has not reached these extremes, but we are headed that way. |
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Your right in some things.But these seam things on the picture are very visible, I did not notice them on other cars, this was the first thing I saw when I opened the trunk.. They are unsymmetrical and uneven , a poor work basically.. As for the manufacturing country quality, there are differences in production quality depending where the products are manufactured. Quality control cant sort out all of the bad apples and I thinks as for what I have heard and experienced that there are more bad apples in the US production then in the German production.. As for Think-car disaster car is only a decoy for the Norwegian government so they can say the finance nonpoluting car manufacturing.. the car is a joke, they don't even dare to crash test it because they believe it will come out as a disaster.. |
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06-18-2011, 06:20 PM | #33 | |
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Sorry, couldn't resist. I love Norway - no derogation intended. Last edited by Lotus7; 06-18-2011 at 06:27 PM.. |
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Just to quote your own american author,William Feather: "Beware of the person who can't be bothered by details." And to quote the American businessman,Sanford I. Weill "Details create the big picture." |
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You have got to admit, that is some outlandishly crazy taxes on a car. That same amount of money in US dollars would get you a nice new Ferrari. (well close anyway). We had a revolution over less taxes.
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A friend just bought an used Ferrari F430, he paid 1 800 000 Norwegian kroner = 326 500.2 U.S. dollars for it, yes its crazy.. |
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I haven't had the X3 on a lift yet, but used to love looking at the 3 Series from underneath - you'll be amazed how over-engineered they are in "places you don't see".
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How do working class individuals afford a car?? Any car? How much are your income taxes percentage wise?? Are other consumable items taxed the same? |
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1)no 2) They don't, Norway has the oldest car-park in Europe maybe beaten by some of the old communist countries.. Its an paradox when the country is considered to be one of the wealthiest in the world considered pro capita... 3) 40-50% 4) 25% on food Yes life sucks.. I know |
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