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Well slick, just because you drove a lot of performance automobiles as you put it...doesn't validated your opinion.
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I knew literally nothing about the braces before stumbling onto this thread, still really don't, so what I did was some searching of existing products. Every performance brace I found had at least two holes with most having a ring for at least two.
For me that says it really depends on what the brace kit mentioned in this thread is intended to do. If it is just for aesthetic purposes that one bolt may be fine. If it is intended to enhance performance, it likely will not function or last as well as existing products. Again, I know nothing of the engineering involved just what I found when looking at the products that are available.
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The level of common sense varies from person to person tbh.
From what you had said looking at strut braces online, the pictures always show a mounting plate with 2 or more holes. Have you looked at the the actual strut tower on your vehicle? Have you considered that vehicles of past in comparison to current design of vehicles today may have changed for the better? Would you say that materials or the stampings of the strut tower has evolved? Did you even consider the fact that different vehicles may have been designed differently and not all strut towers are the same? To me it sure doesn't sound like it, you just base your opinion on the fact that you have seen pictures from all over the internet and they always come with a bracket with more than one hole. Lets actually look at the the strut tower on our X3/4. Do you the ribs running down along the side of the tower...hmm I don't remember seeing that on older vehicles I wonder what's that for? Do you see how the top of strut tower is wider and thicker material is used than in comparison of the other cars you may/may not have driven? I would love to hold your hand and explain what it means to actually use your mind and design facts than relying on "common sense". Last edited by Burr001; 05-22-2024 at 03:50 PM.. |
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You should probably pull out a bit on your pics. It looks like what you are showing is not what was being talked about, at least from my post. It is the other brace that is being referred to.
Edit: I guess I should say the ones I looked at were single bar across and not to the front. That could be the difference in the multiple versus one hole. I'm going to step out because I obviously don't know enough to contribute and probably only to confuse.
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As for the strut bars you may have seen online, each bracket is made to fit each different vehicle and may not have the option to use different mounting points. The fact is that this chassis has the ability and strength and design to accommodate a mounting point for the strut bar made out of solid 6061. When looking at different vehicles the design of the strut tower may not have the same reinforcing ribs or an actual mount. Some vehicles have smooth strut towers to accommodate for space or to keep it lightweight or of thinner material and a bracket to use on the top hat is needed to spread the force evenly. |
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I am not here to discourage someone from upgrading their ride, but if that person is using a general/misinformed information as to why something won't work, then at that point I must inform as to why outdated opinion/thinking is not the actual reason. Sry I'm almost here to help anybody except that guy who wrote a post on how to extract more sound from the stock exhaust by lowering the rear seats or opening the windows. Last edited by Burr001; 05-22-2024 at 06:12 PM.. |
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... you have got lots of constructive arguments here, with hopes that can help you in a way or another 😉 ... lets just leave that each to their own preferences... and continue do what you feel best to provide ... imho, choosing for strut is back to get on its rigidity with equal distribute forces, so yeaahh... a 1 pc 2-4pts would do me good ... and if its a 3pcs, i wud want to go on 6pts... well, that's just me |
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Im still currently working on pricing for the product! Will update once I have a set price!
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The kit will also be coming with new grade 12.9 bolts so the comment from leem about the bolt sheering is kind of obsolete i doubt even the stock bolts would sheer. Yes, while there is still a "benefit" from adding the 2 extra bolts 99% of the people buying this will never reach the point where the two extra bolts are needed. We are talking small gains at that for our chassis, Now if this was a g80 that was planted to the ground and could take a 2 g corner yes I would be worried with a design like this but the only area you are going to see High G's from our massive SUV/SAV is when launching the car. Even when launching the car the most we have seen from OUR chassis is around 1.2Gs. While I think the current design works as needed, I will start working on a way to link the cross braces and strut braces with 2 extra bolts. It will be either by extending the mounting part of the engine brace to allow it to mount via the stock mounting point and another bolt that will be connecting it to the cross brace. or by creating another bar that goes from the engine brace to the cross brace going about 5-6inches from the bolt on the engine brace and 4 inches from the bolt on the cross brace(I don't really like the look of this as it makes it look busy) At the end of the day I want to make a product that I'm happy and satisfied with and that others like as well. Its midnight for me so hopefully this makes sense to everyone!
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... we need... sleep... well,at least at some point of time 😁
... well elaborated and solid points on your design, much appreciated ... and yes, agreed, a 1 pc would be on a higher cost point, as compared to 3 pcs... and that comes with another solid points also on why made a 1pc it is |
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Might as well name the brace eventuri and have Burr001 favorite shop install it for an additional $1K labor 🤣
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Lmfao right now the current price of The design is still competitive to the x3m brace retrofit and cross braces currently on the market☺️
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Yes still need to look further into this, been working on this project currently and also my rear diff solution which will go in later tonight
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Haven’t forget about this project, have been extremely slammed with tuning, life and some new projects that I’m a little more excited about atm. After I finish those which I’m hoping is this week I’m going to redesign this.
One of my projects is a grill snorkel to shove tons of fresh air into the intake currently just working on dialing in the 3d printer for production. Hopefully sending a unit to Burr001 this week to test out on an LCI x3 Working on getting a nice catalog of parts available before release
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Really good stuff my dude. Keep us updated with your steps.
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