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I absolutely love my X3MC! For those who think it is sluggish, take the damn thing out of comfort mode! Additionally, for all these "test drive" decisions on speed, the engine is programed to not let you kill it. They limit the M cars up to the 1200 mile break in service. At break-in, they take off the limiters. I can tell ya first hand, not much beats ya when the light turns green! Even when you aren't trying. As far as the Top Gear and Evo reviews... They are absolute rubbish. The only good use they have is to line a bird cage. As far as stiffness, yeah, it's a firm ride. It's a F'n M-car! It's supposed to be firm! If you want cushy, get a Camry. I'm 100% Sport+ all of the time. I don't even know what comfort mode means - never driven in it. It's totally fine as a daily driver! And since I am a stay at home dad and shuttle the kids this side of the moon all day, every day, I'd be the first to warn ya. But it's a blast to drive! Even in parking lots 😂😂. Sorry, that's got to be the dumbest comment ever.
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And besides, some people don’t want the sunroof and care more about rollover and reliability issues from a roof that is 2/3rds glass vs traditional metal. We already put the running shoes on the hippo, but are they spikes or long distance waffles? |
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The X3 M has been unfortunately engineered to be heavier than all its contemporaries. That seems like a massive oversight to me from BMW to enter a category for the first time with a good looking SUV, proper M engineering and end up heavier than nearly everyone - even the Merc GLC63S which is equiped with more cylinders, air suspension and is more plush in general. All that weight means needing a suspension setup to contain the mass riding up high and rather predictably that has spoiled the ride somewhat. Reducing over 2000 kg's worth of SUV by single digits removing the sunroof... like I said ... hardly worth it in reality but each to their own. |
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The Porsche Macan Turbo I drove did seem to ride better as wasn't as stiffly sprung and the damping seemed more sophisticated but also the Porsche engine doesn't feel as frantic or punchy as the S58 in the X3 M. I wish BMW would do a M3 wagon instead for those of us who don't necessarily like riding high I'm thinking an Alpina B3 Touring might be a good option to replace the F80. |
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I'd also like a B3S Touring, but it was double the price (finance monthlies) in the UK, and the Macan Turbo S was similar. The X3M is not perfect, but it's a very good car and I've been confused by the reviews - I've driven a stack of M and AMG cars too.
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Not just the evo review in the UK, Autocar gave the X4M 3 out 5 stars - which has got to be the lowest score for an M car that I've seen anywhere.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/bmw/x4-m
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I mean, mine did run "better" after he service... The exhaust got it's "pop" when shifting, etc. Mind over matter...? Perhaps, I fell for the whole "magic button" thing... Admittedly, I did drive like and "old lady" for the first 1200 as I wanted to ease her into use and scared shitless of breaking something I just wrote a very big check for... So maybe that's it too... |
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You can't forget that the X3M is a bigger car - it’s longer, wider and taller than the GLC so that’s where the additional weight comes from. I’ll agree that it is unusual for an M to be heavier than the comparable AMG car though. So for M the starting position with the X3 was already heavier due to the size. A carbon roof would save weight, but would that saving really benefit this car? I’d also still spec a pano roof anyway, I love it!
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