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      10-12-2019, 04:50 PM   #45
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Just a quick update from me, just finished putting the engine back together. Good as new (or better?) All updated parts, hopefully i can get another 100K out of this thing. I now have all the tools AND experience to fix the timing chain problem, so, if after the suit settles and some of you don't benefit, do hit me up and i will help out. I have all the receipts and haven't added them up yet, but the total cost is around $1500 (parts and Harbor Freight tools). Thanks and good weekend all!
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      10-12-2019, 05:16 PM   #46
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Just a quick update from me, just finished putting the engine back together. Good as new (or better?) All updated parts, hopefully i can get another 100K out of this thing. I now have all the tools AND experience to fix the timing chain problem, so, if after the suit settles and some of you don't benefit, do hit me up and i will help out. I have all the receipts and haven't added them up yet, but the total cost is around $1500 (parts and Harbor Freight tools). Thanks and good weekend all!
Did you happen to take pics during the fix? Would love it if someone could do a "how to" step by step with pics for us to take a look at and reference. My N20 is running strong at about 58k miles but I've wondered about doing this repair as a preventative measure.
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      10-12-2019, 05:27 PM   #47
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No sir, there's no "how to" when taking an engine apart, sorry. Newtis has a lot of instructions and torques (which is very important). I did it all right in the driveway, so please don't be discouraged if BMW decides not to help you out. Also, your car is eligible for factory warranty, tell them you're hearing high pitched noise from the engine and they muat replace it no questions asked. Thanks
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      10-16-2019, 05:37 PM   #48
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Mine died last Friday...

Was driving from Memphis to PCB last Friday when I lost power in the middle of the highway near Birmingham. First the 'oil pressure low' warning light came on, immediately followed by the 'drivetrain' warning light. Pulled over and got towed to the dealer in B'ham, where they told me that the engine was blown and a new engine would be roughly 15-17K.

They didn't visually inspect the timing chain...just a hunch by their lead mechanic based on the ticking he heard when attempting to get the engine to start. They offered to do a deeper dive into the issue for an additional $1000, which I declined.

I'm having the car towed back to Memphis, where I will look into finding a second-hand engine for replacement.

I will be tracking the lawsuit. My car (2013 528i xdrive) only had 74K miles, and I owe what they quoted me for a new engine, so that's not a consideration. I have been religious with maintenance, with all work done at the dealer.
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      10-18-2019, 09:09 AM   #49
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BMW has extended the mileage requirement Enhanced Goodwill warranty program to 7 model years Old and 110 k miles. I needed a replacement turbo charger and worked with my local dealer to give me approximately 20 percent off this replacement
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      10-18-2019, 09:16 AM   #50
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Mendo2019 You could give many people such as my self that have the n20 motor peace of mind and a second career for your self by offering to do these timing chain /oil pump change outs.
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      10-18-2019, 10:08 AM   #51
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After doing little research, I thought I would be clear of the timing chain issue by buying an X3 28i from the 2015 model year. I was looking for the 2011 (N52) model, but couldn't find one without high mileage of course, so opted for either the 35i or a 28i from 2015. Ended up with a CPO 2015 X3 28i currently at about 33k mi.

With the amount of engine failure experiences (and plaintiffs), I do hope a recall will be in effect soon. Doesn't seem like ANYONE had any success with BMW fixing/replacing the engine because of the timing chain issue.
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      10-18-2019, 03:56 PM   #52
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After doing little research, I thought I would be clear of the timing chain issue by buying an X3 28i from the 2015 model year. I was looking for the 2011 (N52) model, but couldn't find one without high mileage of course, so opted for either the 35i or a 28i from 2015. Ended up with a CPO 2015 X3 28i currently at about 33k mi.

With the amount of engine failure experiences (and plaintiffs), I do hope a recall will be in effect soon. Doesn't seem like ANYONE had any success with BMW fixing/replacing the engine because of the timing chain issue.
There is an active member who posts updates on the law suit on the 3-Series F30 forum- might be worth a look there.

Best of luck with your car!
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      12-06-2019, 08:33 AM   #53
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There is an active member who posts updates on the law suit on the 3-Series F30 forum- might be worth a look there.

Best of luck with your car!
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I can't find the link. can you help us?
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      12-06-2019, 01:45 PM   #54
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I can't find the link. can you help us?
Long thread...look here: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...t=timing+chain
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Well that's fake news. BMW has an extended warranty on all 2013 N20 timing chains. 1 out of 25,000 are affected. If it hasn't failed by 75,000mi it's not going to fail due to the defect.
Completely ridiculous statement!
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      01-14-2020, 09:38 PM   #57
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Completely ridiculous statement!
There is a reason why he is banned
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N20 New Engine


my engine just shit, 2013, 97k
Dealer covering 50% of a new motor, 2yr warranty.
27k miles over, so BMW could have said NO, for what it's worth.
Purchased from the same dealership may have helped.
So i'm in it for $5K.
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      01-18-2020, 02:06 PM   #59
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Just a quick update from me, just finished putting the engine back together. Good as new (or better?) All updated parts, hopefully i can get another 100K out of this thing. I now have all the tools AND experience to fix the timing chain problem, so, if after the suit settles and some of you don't benefit, do hit me up and i will help out. I have all the receipts and haven't added them up yet, but the total cost is around $1500 (parts and Harbor Freight tools). Thanks and good weekend all!
Hi Please share you contact details.
I'm in NJ.
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      01-23-2020, 11:26 AM   #60
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Has anyone reported the timing chain failure on any 2014 428xi F32 N26 models?
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      02-28-2020, 07:19 PM   #61
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Please register a complaint on NHTSA website for Timing-Chain issue

I called NHTSA today and so far they only have a couple of complaints pertaining to the timing-chain problem. There are 68 other complaints related to power-braking and an investigation is launched for only that.

Most of you know by now that BMW extended the warranty on timing-chain only to 7 year/ 70k, but failed to have sent letters to all the owners.

This timing-chain is a universal problem and I seriously insist that a complaint be filed so an investigation can begin.

Can you take a moment and go to www.nhtsa.gov and write up a complaint of when your issue occurred and what you have done about it.

It takes less than 5 minutes and is very very straight forward - enter VIN number (it is available online on your insurance declaration page), select "Engine & Powertrain" as the affected components and type in the incident.

Also contact KKG Law office and talk to the paralegal about your issue.

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      02-28-2020, 08:21 PM   #62
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Revived 7 super old threads? Wouldn't one have sufficed?
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      02-28-2020, 08:23 PM   #63
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FOUND OUT THROUGH THE FORUM....NO LETTER SENT BY BMW!!!

Had the service adviser print the actual warranty extension...with regard to our son's 2015 X3 28i...our own little in house BMW experiment...
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      03-31-2020, 05:39 PM   #64
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So I had this happen to me Friday

In Canada we got two lawsuits

https://www.siskinds.com/class-action/bmw-engine/
https://www.strosbergco.com/class-actions/bmw/

1) Timing chain and oil pump drive chain (Now)
2) Fuel tank leak diagnostic Module (NVLD) (2019)
3) Coolant thermostat (2016)
4) Engine oil feed line to the turbocharger (2018)

I had an extended 7yr/120k miles warranty
My car is a year over 8th yr/94,448 miles

BMW Case manager said we don't have to do a recall, issue an advisory or notice to owners.

I think they might be waiting for someone to stall their car on a left turn due to one of the 3 issues here and get T-boned by the oncoming car.

Don't think it will help but willing to do an inspection on my car and provide paperwork supporting your cases.

In the US they got this going

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...1359171&page=5

Join the action on the ClassAction.... we paid top dollar for a reliable and a premium product.... they took that top dollar and are trying to screw us....
This personal now..... you think I'ma fool! Our nations are built on Just Judicial Systems that promise and protects the consumers against this kind of exploitation ..... Rise Up my tax paying people....
Judicial system is slow, we all know! doesn't mean it has to become ineffective .....

PM me if you consider I can help.....

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      04-06-2020, 08:26 PM   #66
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1- 2012 335i Coupe M Sport Manual - Shaky brakes
2- 2013 X3 28i XDrive - Oil pan gasket and transfer case leaks, passenger seat won't move, panaromic sunroof squeak
3- 2014 X1 28i SDrive - Valve Cover gasket, oil filter housing/cooler gasket, likely oil pan gasket leaks, Turbo wastegate actuator failure: currently, I am fixing VCG, OFHG, OFCG, and Wastegate actuator

I am also waiting to hear updates from this class action lawsuit
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